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Non Life Sciences => Technology => Topic started by: Allmine on 30/08/2008 19:18:50

Title: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: Allmine on 30/08/2008 19:18:50
Has anyone ever heard of the coler coil? I'm not talking about the tesla coil, i mean the free energy device.
Title: Re: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: Pumblechook on 30/08/2008 20:28:44
Maybe Tim Rifat sells those.
Title: Re: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: paul.fr on 30/08/2008 21:40:59
Maybe Tim Rifat sells those.

I fear you may now be on "their" list.
http://www.rinf.com/news/oct05/deathtreats.html
Title: Re: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: Pumblechook on 30/08/2008 22:07:27
Oh dear!!
Title: Re: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: Allmine on 30/08/2008 22:23:59
oops. I was afraid that would happen. crap
Title: Re: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: Freeman on 31/08/2008 08:46:38
Hello Allmine.

I have done some research into this type of device.This system could work in theory but the working practical aspect has a few drawbacks.

This Coler-Coil functions like this.You basically have a ring of Coils  with there primary or secondary windings are wired together in a series pattern and in between these loops you have other components that can store and control a electrical charge.Now connecting a high voltage high frequency power source over the coils for just a split second,the integration of the coils and the controller circuits will put the system in what you can call a perpetual effect where by the Backward voltage flow of the one Coil will induce a current in the next Coil and this cycle will repeat itself in the the ring of Coils.  

This system to be used as a free energy device is plagued by problems ranging from resistance in the coils,Power loss due in part to heat in the system an so on.Also a perpetual device can barley keep itself going on its own energy.The minute you want to connect a device that would use energy from the system everything will grind to a halt.Its sad to say that it will just not work for any application that one will want to use it for.

Hope the info is helpful  [;)].

Cheers
Magneto.
Title: Re: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: Allmine on 01/09/2008 01:48:37
I have heard of scientists (maybe even tesla himself) running lightbulbs from no external power supply. I would like to build one, but i need the plans for one. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: lyner on 01/09/2008 11:39:28
Energy out can't be more than Energy in, what ever you try to do. There's no argument about that one. If you want to save money, don't spend it on things that can never work - use it to buy loft insulation.
Title: Re: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: Pumblechook on 01/09/2008 11:55:03
I am fed up hearing about ******* Tesla..   Nicked most of his ideas from other folks like Edison did.  And some of the things folks claimed he did are quite bizarre and clearly nonsense.
Title: Re: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: Allmine on 03/09/2008 21:26:14
I have to disagree with you guys. if Tesla's experiments didn't work, why were they all destroyed? Why can't i get any info on some of his work?

I know for a fact that there is suck a thing as free energy. I have seen it. Just go to YouTube.
Title: Re: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: BenV on 03/09/2008 21:35:54
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if Tesla's experiments didn't work, why were they all destroyed?
Because they didn't work!


I'm not sure many people will accept youtube as evidence for anything.  I'm afraid that you've either been conned, or you're taking the mick.

You will find all sorts of info on Tesla's work - but perhaps not about free energy - this is most likely because it didn't work.

Do you seriously believe that if free energy devices could be built, no one would have?  I'm sure you'll claim they're being hushed by someone, but if it worked, people would be doing it - it would very quickly get too big for anyone to censor. 'They' would need people in every town, on every farm, controlling every page on the internet...

If you have a design for a working free energy design and even the smallest shred of evidence that it works, post it here!  There are plenty of forum members with the technical expertise to build one. Maybe you could solve the world's energy problems!
Title: Re: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: Pumblechook on 03/09/2008 23:10:30
I don't know that Tesla did anything that was original. 

3 phase AC predates Tesla.   John Hopkinson of Manchester for one.

So called Tesla coil is just an induction coil.   The induction coil was invented by the Irish scientist Nicholas Callan in 1836.

Conspiracy theories eh?  Like 'Who Killed the Electric Car'.  It killed itself because so far it hasn't lived up to hype... Too many snags.

Title: Re: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: lyner on 04/09/2008 09:15:00
Tesla has had some incredibly good press over the years. Is it the name that people find so attractive?  He even got an appearance (played by David Bowie) in The Prestige - a smashing film in which the basic Non-Science was well worth believing for the purpose of the plot.
Title: Re: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: paul.fr on 05/09/2008 00:22:18
He was also the inspiration for a great song!
Title: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: lyner on 05/09/2008 12:28:16
owch!
Title: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: Allmine on 06/09/2008 18:00:56
here is some evidence that Newtons Laws of Thermodynamics is not necessarily true.

there are many more like these!
Title: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: Freeman on 06/09/2008 22:09:44
here is some evidence that Newtons Laws of Thermodynamics is not necessarily true.

Allmine I would have to disagree on that statement.As Newtons law works hand in hand on any system that uses energy to do work, its the same for perpetual devices.

Now as this coler-coil uses a transformer based system there are a few fundamental problems regarding the working aspects of this device.

Transformers can not generate more power [energy] from a existing supply as they a governed by a rule which states: The power delivered by the secondary winding of a transformer can never be greater that the power delivered by the primary winding as the secondary windings output is in effect less than the primary windings input power due in part to loses active in the system.  

Transformers have there own share of loses:

Winding resistance
Magnetic Flux Leakage ens.

Any system that has to convert energy from one form to the other,let it be magnetic or mechanical will suffer loses.Its a natural side effect in every system or cycle and can not be overruled.


I have a hard time accepting You-Tube to be used as a valid back-up to disprove a Law that has been shown to be correct in any working application.

Cheers
Freeman.
Title: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: Allmine on 09/09/2008 11:32:11
You guys need to read the books written by Joseph P. Farrell. Some interesting stuff.
Title: What is a coler coil and how does it work?
Post by: Geoffd99 on 06/05/2009 15:34:10
I just read Farrell's Brotherhood of the Bell, which had this Coler Coil in it.
 
His books are part of the entertainment industry, they keep people interested in silly conspiracies and mad ideas, that then make fun filled action films. Apparently everything is secretly run by Nazis. From Brazil...

Perhaps there is some proof on Youtube...