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Life Sciences => Physiology & Medicine => Topic started by: Karen W. on 22/12/2006 02:22:28
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Does loosing the weight fast count as a strike against me as far as shrinkage ?
Does Loosing the weight slower help in allowing skin to conform and shrink properly?
Well as a heavy Girl of 351 lbs, I have spent the last 14 months loosing 110 lbs, bringing me down to 241 Lbs respectively! Now I have noticed excess skin in places like my upper arms, upper thighs on the inside. In June the sag was aweful, but now december seems to be better and I am noticing some shrinkage! Just how much can I expect and how long does this take to get it better. I have started doing some pilates to try to tone the muscles, I am restricted as to the type of excercise I can do, due to heart problems.. At some point I should be able to be monitored again to see if I can increase my type of excercise.. If anyone has information it would be helpful. Thanks so much
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Hi Karen,
I discovered cause of appearances of excessive skin and as well how to get rid of excessive skin. It is only problem I don’t know will I be able to explain with my poor writing ability.
Anyway I will tray.
First there is not only skin but as well plenty flesh together with the skin ranging from a few millimetres to a few centimetres thick. More appropriate name will be saggy flesh tissues.
You can notice when you walking that by each step this saggy tissues are restless trembling (shaking). This trembling is factor that maintains this saggy tissues and preventing shrinking of the skin. This trembling of the saggy flesh tissues is factor that providing mechanical stimulation to the saggy flesh tissues.
As long as it is present factor that cause existence of excessive skin so long excessive skin will be present.
To get rid of saggy flesh tissues it needs to remove factor that cause appearance and maintenance of excessive skin (saggy flesh tissues).
Adopting balanced gait patterns and optimal body posture will cause absence of mechanical stimulation on the saggy flesh tissues and that will cause shrinkage of the skin (regression of saggy flesh tissues).
Just using consciously effort to maintain optimal body posture and balanced gait patterns will positively affect shrinkage of the excessive skin. You can notice that by balanced (gently) transferring body weight from one leg to another that trembling (shaking) of the saggy flesh tissues is reduced or nonexistent. In two or three days you can notice visible difference.
If you find interesting I can post some simply exercise (designed by myself) that positively affect gait patterns and body posture.
Luka Tunjic
http://www.freewebs.com/lukatunjic/
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Does loosing the weight fast count as a strike against me as far as shrinkage ?
Does Loosing the weight slower help in allowing skin to conform and shrink properly?
Well as a heavy Girl of 351 lbs, I have spent the last 14 months loosing 110 lbs, bringing me down to 241 Lbs respectively! Now I have noticed excess skin in places like my upper arms, upper thighs on the inside. In June the sag was aweful, but now december seems to be better and I am noticing some shrinkage! Just how much can I expect and how long does this take to get it better. I have started doing some pilates to try to tone the muscles, I am restricted as to the type of excercise I can do, due to heart problems.. At some point I should be able to be monitored again to see if I can increase my type of excercise.. If anyone has information it would be helpful. Thanks so much
Well done karen ,you've done fantastically,I unfortunately don't know the answer to your question but health wise you prospects must be much better as long as you've been consuming foods which contain enough of the vitamins and minerals your body requires to remain healthy
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I eat everything I always have as I hate diet foods. I like healthy foods and like to eat.. So yes indeedy I am in excellent shape that way. Me doctor even took me off the iron.. YAYYYYY I had a female problem that was depleting me body of iron. But had a DNC and HYSTEROSCOPY which corrected that! SO When she checked, everything was grand!!
I have heart problems, but I was born with them. The weight made them worse, now those problems are getting better too. Had a little heart infection after female surgery, but that is all good and gone now.. Am feeling way better. Doctor says if I get this last 80 to 90 lbs off she will take me off my meds.. YES!!!!! I am excited about that as I hate medicine!
Hi Caren,
I discovered cause of appearances of excessive skin and as well how to get rid of excessive skin. It is only problem I don’t know will I be able to explain with my poor writing ability.
Anyway I will tray.
First there is not only skin but as well plenty flesh together with the skin ranging from a few millimetres to a few centimetres thick. More appropriate name will be saggy flesh tissues.
You can notice when you walking that by each step this saggy tissues are restless trembling (shaking). This trembling is factor that maintains this saggy tissues and preventing shrinking of the skin. This trembling of the saggy flesh tissues is factor that providing mechanical stimulation to the saggy flesh tissues.
As long as it is present factor that cause existence of excessive skin so long excessive skin will be present.
To get rid of saggy flesh tissues it needs to remove factor that cause appearance and maintenance of excessive skin (saggy flesh tissues).
Adopting balanced gait patterns and optimal body posture will cause absence of mechanical stimulation on the saggy flesh tissues and that will cause shrinkage of the skin (regression of saggy flesh tissues).
Just using consciously effort to maintain optimal body posture and balanced gait patterns will positively affect shrinkage of the excessive skin. You can notice that by balanced (gently) transferring body weight from one leg to another that trembling (shaking) of the saggy flesh tissues is reduced or nonexistent. In two or three days you can notice visible difference.
If you find interesting I can post some simply exercise (designed by myself) that positively affect gait patterns and body posture.
Luka Tunjic
http://www.freewebs.com/lukatunjic/
GBSB, I thank you very much for your advice and would greatly appreciate it if you would post afore mentioned excercises to add to my walking. I cannot run or do to a real hard cardiac work out yet.. Not till the doctor approves more. I have a heart condition, but she said she would increase my activity level when weight is gone and she can do another ekg and monitor my heart in a controlled setting..!! Thanks so much I will check your link!!
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Hi Karen,
I am so glad that you find interesting. Here are three simply non strenuous exercises; slow walk, standing on one leg, and walking with crossed arms on front of the chest. Probably it looks odd, but I find that this simply exercise are in great extent beneficial for everyone’s, independent of health situation or physical performance ability.
This simply exercise will greatly improve postural strength, postural stability and human motor skill. Improvement in postural strength, postural stability and motor skill will positively affect gait patterns and body posture. Adopting balanced gait and optimal body posture will in greater extent positively effect health situation and outward appearance.
Please do not attempt on any strenuous exercise till you get completely healthy. Even by someone that has cold flu, it’s not advisable to be involved in any strenuous physical activity or any cardiac work. Doing every day common activity by is quite enough.
Here is more description with picture of exercise;
Slow walk http://www.freewebs.com/lukatunjic/slowwalking.htm
Standing on one leg http://www.freewebs.com/lukatunjic/standingononeleg.htm
Walking with crossed arms on the chest http://www.freewebs.com/lukatunjic/walkingwithcrosedarms.htm
I tried as best as I could to explain on simplest way by using fewer words as possible and what ever you (and everybody also) find confusing please post it and I will try with great pleasure to explain more or answer any question.
P. S.
Sorry for late reply. I am not quite familiar with computer and it took me too much time to post exercise on my rambling web page.
Luka Tunjic
http://www.freewebs.com/lukatunjic/
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I am by no means an expert on this, but the mother of a friend of mine in high school lost a ridiculous amount of weight. She went from 375 to 175 or 350 to 150, I dont know. It was around 200 pounds and she is tiny now so...
Anyways, Stacey's mom, jeez I can't remember her name, lost this weight between 2 and 3 years, but had loads, and I mean loads of excess skin. Her doctor told her to exercise, and make sure she ate lots of fruits (for the collagen production) and vitamin E, as well as a vitamin E cream for stretch marks. So after a while of doing this she noticed that her skin had stopped 'retreating'. Went to her doctor, and then went to a plastic surgeon.
Anyways, I think what I'm trying to say is that it is a slow (and not very fun) process of shrinking your skin, but it is possible to an extent. Good luck and congratulations so far!!!!
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Luka,
I am checking out the excercizes right now and I will start using them regularly. Thank you so much for taking the time to post them. There is no need to apologise about getting back to me as I am grateful for the advice and know you must be busy too!
I will keep in touch and let you know how it goes. If you like, I have posted before pictures and after pictures in Complimentry medicine. The zeta gallery of rogues.. One before picture at the top of forum and and again at the bottom somewhere with before and after 1 year mark! I will post more as the rest of the weight comes off. Probably in 50 pound increments.. Thanks again so much and I really appreciate your courtesies..
sincerely
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I am by no means an expert on this, but the mother of a friend of mine in high school lost a ridiculous amount of weight. She went from 375 to 175 or 350 to 150, I dont know. It was around 200 pounds and she is tiny now so...
Anyways, Stacey's mom, jeez I can't remember her name, lost this weight between 2 and 3 years, but had loads, and I mean loads of excess skin. Her doctor told her to exercise, and make sure she ate lots of fruits (for the collagen production) and vitamin E, as well as a vitamin E cream for stretch marks. So after a while of doing this she noticed that her skin had stopped 'retreating'. Went to her doctor, and then went to a plastic surgeon.
Anyways, I think what I'm trying to say is that it is a slow (and not very fun) process of shrinking your skin, but it is possible to an extent. Good luck and congratulations so far!!!!
Thanks for this, I do in fact know already about the vitamin E and the surgery, of which I want to avoid at all cost.. I don't do well coming out of surgeries!.. I seem to have an anesthesia problem.. And already way more scars then I care to speak!
I am glad for your moms friend I bet she feels like a new peron.. I know I feel way better physically so far then I did.. Thanks alot.. your words are encouraging too! Does loosing the weight fast count as a strike against me as far as shrinkage ?
Does Loosing the weight slower help in allowing skin to conform and shrink properly?
Well as a heavy Girl of 351 lbs, I have spent the last 14 months loosing 110 lbs, bringing me down to 241 Lbs respectively! Now I have noticed excess skin in places like my upper arms, upper thighs on the inside. In June the sag was aweful, but now december seems to be better and I am noticing some shrinkage! Just how much can I expect and how long does this take to get it better. I have started doing some pilates to try to tone the muscles, I am restricted as to the type of excercise I can do, due to heart problems.. At some point I should be able to be monitored again to see if I can increase my type of excercise.. If anyone has information it would be helpful. Thanks so much
Well done karen ,you've done fantastically,I unfortunately don't know the answer to your question but health wise you prospects must be much better as long as you've been consuming foods which contain enough of the vitamins and minerals your body requires to remain healthy
I am sorry Michael Meant to address you in previous post.. Thanks for the praise.. its been a long road and thanks to the support in the Zeta Thread and friends like you I think I will make it down to an acceptable weight for my heart and bones.. I have slowed down but not given up. I am trying to go down again. I wanted to slow down and maintain for awhile with no help from zeta, to make sure I could handle it on my own.. I have done well still have several bottles but am not using them now, only if I feel I am going the wrong way.. So far It has been several months without them and I am still slowly losing weight, which is good. I bought these before I thought I could do it on my own. They really helped me learn to see portions better. I think I have it now.. I want to reach my goal hopefully by June or July.. we will see. But thanks for the support!
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Popular Procedures
According to the American Society of Plastic Surgeons, the four most popular body contouring procedures after massive weight loss are breast lift, upper arm lift, thigh lift, and lower body lift.
Is a Body Lift Right for Me?
The best candidate for a body lift has had stable weight for as early as three months, but often six months to a year, and should be participating in a healthy exercise and dietary program. Candidates who have had gastric bypass or other gastric restrictive procedures should wait until at least one year after surgery so that the common health problems associated with obesity have had time to improve. Patients in this category often require plastic surgery on several areas of the body, including the stomach, thighs, flank, breast, arms, and face.
Consult a Qualified Plastic Surgeon
Since this is an emerging area of plastic surgery, relatively few plastic surgeons have had formal training or developed extensive expertise in this field. Instruction and education regarding post-bariatric body contouring and the body lift procedure is provided by organizations such as the American Society of Plastic Surgeons and the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery. There may also be a small number of bariatric surgeons who perform the body lift procedure. It is important to know the level of training and expertise of the doctor you are consulting. Formal training and experience varies greatly among surgeons.
The type of certification is also important. There are more than 150 self-designated boards, but only a handful that are designated by the American Board of Medical Specialties (ABMS), such as the American Board of Plastic Surgery.
http://www.yourplasticsurgeryguide.com/contouring/body-lift.htm
The scars caused by removal of redundant skin after extreme weight loss can be extensive and very prominent.
(I do not believe that losing weight rapidly or slowly would not make any difference to the amount of stretched skin you have).
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Thanks Robert.. I really don't need any more scars I already look like a race track.. Your information is good. I am going to try to take luka's advice and try to firm up that way. I will not have a huge surgery.
I thank you for answering my question regarding how fast and weather that pertained to the way your skin does or does not shrink back up.. The staff I spoke with pryor to thinking about a bypass, told me that bypass sugery caused such a fast loss of weight that the skin doesn't have time to be resilient or shrink .. I thought that seemed weird Just being fat was what stretched it out to begin with. They said slow loss resulted in less hangy skin.. Who knows It's there either way.. Oh don't know if my loss was considered fast or slow. I did not have a gastric bypass. I started Sept. 26 2005 and it is now Jan. 10 2007, so about 15 months to loose 112 Lbs .. approx. a little over 7 lbs a month....I think.. If I did my math right! LOL
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I intend to post some more non-strenuous exercise but before I have to say a few words about WLS and about similar kind of plastic surgeries
All weight loss surgeries are based on misunderstanding of real cause of fat formations on the body.
Medical professionals involved in weight loss surgeries and as well medical professional who are not direct involved but advising patients to go on WLS or on any associate cosmetic surgery do not know what (unnecessary cruelty) they are doing to patients.
All this mentioned surgeries are examples of “Medical Practice Based on Misunderstanding”
Science behind all weight loss surgeries and all cosmetic surgeries associated with weight loss surgeries does have nothing in common with science brought by Ignaz Sammelweis, Louis Pasteur, Frederick Bunting, Joseph Lister, Alexander Fleming and many another scientists who made great contribution to understanding and treatment of illnesses and disease.
Luka Tunjic
http://www.freewebs.com/lukatunjic/
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Thanks Luka, I appreciate your help and advice.. I find this method very interesting.. BY the way your links worked well. Thank you!