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On the Lighter Side => Complementary Medicine => Topic started by: Ians Daddy on 29/09/2003 02:31:26
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I work out quite regularly. I think I eat relatively healthy. I try to get plenty of rest. I drink lots of water. Yet, I sweat like a prostitute in church. I've noticed that I sweat more than the average bear, Boo boo.
My question is this.... What causes excessive sweating and is there a way to remedy this? I stay clean, so I don't smell. I'm just the guy with the deluge on my forehead. I've considered putting antiperspirant on my brow, but thought there may be a better solution. It's not my pits or anywhere other than my brow / head area. I'm tired of looking like I just ran a marathon when I've just walked into the office. I don't want to carry around a towel like Barry White, or Satchmo, but I've considered it.
What do you all think?
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If you quit doing all those drugs, you might sweat less. Just kidding, but some people just sweat more than others, and men more than women. Could try an ice pack on your neck. One of those gel pack kinds that you can put in the freezer and fit in a scarf that ties around your neck. Spicy foods make you sweat more too. Eating a lot of Mexican food?
Bezoar
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I do love the spicy foods. I put Tobasco on everything.
See, I always thought that booze and drugs were what caused it...I gave up both awhile back. That's why I'm perplexed about the sweating.
Winter's coming, so it won't be so bad. But when I do public speaking, I turn deep red and SWEAT. I thought it may be high blood pressure, but I checked out fine.
Maybe I'm just secreting Tobasco [:)]
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Ronnie, I think is impossible for a person to stop sweating. The point of you sweating is to cool your body down. You should try bezoar's method, an ice pack will to cool you body down and you'll therefore sweat less.
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I'll give it a try. I've seen those "rice packs" that are basicaly a sock with rice in it. It's supposed to keep cool longer and would be less noticable.
Thanks.
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The public speaking sweat is probably a stress response -- you know, like sweaty palms. Try meditation?????
Bezoar
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM......[|)]
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Ronnie --
You edited the above comment? Did you misspell it the first time?
Bezoar
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I had one too many "o's"...[:P]
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You two crack me up.
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Yep, I'm glad you corrected it. I can't stand a bad spiller -- er, speller.
Bezoar
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Sounds like you are breaking out in a nervous sweat combined with the tabasco as the icing on the cheesecake. So, you might want to try some calming type decaffinated tea's before you do a presentation of any sort. After the tea, drink a full glass of cold water, and bring a class of water with you to your speech. Are you getting 8 hours of sleep? If not, make sure you do by drinking chamomile tea and water before bed. If you drink coffee, stop. I know it is a life change, but it worked for me. Now I wear turtlenecks alot because I am cold. Funny, 10 years ago, I used to wear kleenexes under my arm pits to avoid the wetness. Cured: Maybe it was the karaoke that broke my stage-frieght, not sure. I am not nervous about speaking in front of 10-20 people anymore. I drink chamomile every night or I can't sleep as well. I drink alot more water than I ever did in my life, and haven't had a cold in 2 years. Whenever I get to feeling anything is wrong, I drink water. Water is a heal all. Organs function on water. Water cleanses. Just hope there is enough for me for the next 50 years that I plan on being around.
[8D]
Forever Young
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Hi Visitor10, welcome to the forum! Have you tried taking valerian at night to help you sleep? It smells really bad but works well. Buy the pre-encapsulated form, I made the mistake of buying loose and encapsulating myself. Made me wonder how the people smell who work in the factory that processes valerian.
I agree with you about the importance of water. Do you drink purified water?
Thanks for the info on Stevia. If you find any really good studies please let me know.
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Visitor10,
I do drink lots of water, but I also drink gallons of coffee. I'm just going to ignore what you said about giving it up. I can't imagine life without it. I'll pretend I didn't hear that part.
As far as my sleeping? No, I'm trying to get on a better schedule, but I don't take very good care of myself lately. I do better when I have my kiddos for the weekends, but being a bachelor now, I just don't pay attention to what my body needs. I'm a 4 hour a night guy.
I'll try some chamomile.
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Visitor10 speaks the truth..........however, sounds like he best not get too far from a bathroom, all those liquids! I'm a water and coffee guy myself. I'm with Ians Daddy, must not, can not give up coffee. Darn, I live in the Pacific Northwest and giving up coffee would revoke my membership and I'd have to move to California. Along with V10, I try to limit my intake of coffee when I'm not feeling well and drink water exclusively. As for sweating, I too sweat a ton when working out and the flood gates don't stop until hours after a workout - embarrassing to sit in a meeting sweating like a stuck pig. I do notice, however, when on an extended climbing trip, that I tend to seat less as the trip progresses and my body acclimates to the rigors of continuous exercise.
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I've found a trigger, it seems. I've really been slacking on my working out for the past month. I've been drinking less and less water as well. It has deffinately made a difference. Strange, but true. The body tends to adjust to the rigors and creates a balance. I sweat more when in less active states. I'm picking up on the water again and might try to workout a little more. But, I'll be damned if I let go of my coffee cup!!!
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I love coffee but I had to cut down when I started to get side effects !
I couldn't get up in the morning, couldn't complete my ward rounds without stopping for a coffee at least twice, I developed tremors and muscle spasms...
I now survive on a couple of cups day rather than the 6-10 I was necking before[xx(]
Chris
"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception"
- Groucho Marx
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All of a sudden one day I started sweating REALLY REALLY badley under my arm pits, it strated happening in December of 2002...now i'm in seventh grade and its January 2004!!!! I've tried alot of different deoderants to stop from sweating, but paper towels in my shirts so it doesn't show the sweat...EVERYTHING I COULD THINK OF! I always layers to school cause i can't wear regualr shirts cause i get these huge sweat stains, and once it went through my sweatshirt when i was at my boyfriends house!!! its really embarrising...how can i stop it?
Lizzy
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Unfortunately, sweating like that is a symptom of puberty, just like pimples and voice changes. You might try a deodorant that is also an anti-perspirant. Don't be afraid to get the guy stuff, it's probably a little stronger. Just get unscented and you'll be fine.
Chris, I feel your pain with the coffee addiction. I'm slowly cutting back, I'm finally under a pot a day. Having a friend that works at an espresso bar and gives me free drinks doesn't help though. =/
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Its funny to hear people talk about anti-perspirants like they might help the problem. There is an interesting article about the composition of the stuff here: http://www.creative-developments.co.uk/papers/APDs%201999.htm
I have noticed though that there are definite side effects that most people overlook when considering deoderants. First let me preface by saying that I don't sweat. At least, I don't sweat very much. Usualy if I hike a full day and its warm outside I will start with a sweat sheen on my forehead and then I start to sweat on the middle of my back. Not to long ago in Arizona I was waiting outside for a freind and the day was really warm (107f) so I ran insde and put on some anti-P just in case. consider though that this was the 5th or 6th time I have used the stuff in my life. Within a day, and after a few showers, I noticed that my pits were sore even though the skin didn't seem inflamed. Within a day of noticing this I also detected hard lumps under my skin that shortly became very painful. After futily trying to pop these lumps like zits I saw a doctor. He told me that in some people the aluminium in the products is encapsulated by the body when it enters your pores. This is of course very painful because that pore needs to breath and release its minute amounts of oils, waters and other waste products. Interestingly enough, the doctor also said that if a group of pores is blocked for a long enough period of time the tissue can become necrotic.
Basicaly there are a few things that we can learn from this. Just because something works doesn't mean that its either safe nor a good idea. I remember when I was a kid and Sweet & Low first came out I was sitting in the lunch room and I ate some of it and imediatly got a head ache. Shortly after that as a class assignment (3rd grade) I drew a picture of a sweet and low package and wrote underneith that it rots your brain. It wasnt too many years after that, that the FDA announced that S&L caused brain cancer in certain situations. The studies have been in-conclusive since, but it still has a red warning on the back of the product. The point of this whole dialog is that just because some person or group of people states that a product is A. OK. doesn't mean that 20 years from now they won't determine the opposite. I say, live life as far from un-natural products as possible and you will live if not longer then surely better.
If the multi-verse is a real construct then in some universe Im your God.
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Millions of people use anti-perspirants, but how many actually have problems related to them? I know more people that can't have pennicillin than can't use anti-perspirants. Putting ANYTHING in or on your body has a slight risk associated, but because 1 person in a few thousand has a problem with it doesn't mean the others should scared into avoiding them entirely. As long as the product carries the correct warnings (Which I don't believe anti-perspirants do, but that's another issue) what's wrong with someone using it if they don't have a problem?
Incidentally, I know quite a few people that use "all-natural" deodorants and soaps and you know what? These people freaking stink. That's cool if they don't mind, but I'll de damned if I'll let myself smell like that. Technology allows us not to stink like animals, so if it works for you, I say use it. If your body can't deal with the ingredients in anti-perspirants, I promise not to be offended by your odor if you promise not to be offended by my Old Spice.
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Old Spice? How old are you anyway?
I did read something once where there were more incidences of breast cancer in women who used antiperspirants, the theory being that the antip's actually blocked the release of toxins. I'm not sure if that's true or not, but I don't use antip's. I just use a deodorant instead, which, by the way is hard to find. However, you're right. I have to stop to wash off in the afternoon and reapply. There used to be a deodorant from Arm and Hammer with baking soda in it that really worked all day long, then they took it off the market. They've since released another version, but it's not effective like the first version was.
Sweet n'Low, as far as I know, only gives bladder cancer to mice in mega, mega doses. But anyone can be sensitive to anything, and you have to know your own body.
Bezoar
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Fresh sweat doesn't stink (except the stuff that comes with a hot flash). I keep my underarms hair-free which helps reduce both sweat and odor and use a solid oil stick as deodorant. Works well and I don't have to worry about poisoning myself. If necessary I wash during the day, or dry off with a tissue.
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Hahah, no not the Old Spice aftershave, the Old Spice Sport Stick deodorant/anti perspirant. My grandfather wore the aftershave. ;)
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Oh, I was beginning to wonder. I thought you were into nostalgia or something. My father wore the aftershave too, and he's 81. Didn't even know Old Spice made a deodorant stick. Goes to show you how often I shop for men's deodorant, however, maybe I should, because there are more pure deodorants among the men's products than the women's. Somehow, I just can't picture myself with Old Spice armpits, though.
Bezoar
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The stick stuff definately smells "manly", and I don't think they make an unscented version, so I'd avoid it if I were you. =) The stuff I use is actually toothpaste-like in texture, you twist a knob at the bottom of the container and it squirts a bit of it up through a mesh at the top, which you then apply. It's still an organic aluminum material, though. (aluminum chlorohydrex, which is basically chlorinated proplyene glycol complexed with aluminum somehow)
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So we're still going to get Alzheimer's from it, but maybe not breast cancer if I'm willing to go around smelling like a guy.
Bezoar
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the uber-sweaty forehead syndrome is actually a very common inherited trait. I would be willing to bet that your grandmother on your father's side has/had the same problem. Don't ask me how that works out genetically (and genetics is kinda my thing) but I've actually heard of several insances where it is true so I don't think its just a cooincidence. Bad news, from what I have heard all you can do about it is carry a hanky with you. Sorry. Can anyone else figure out a scheme where a trait would only show up in a paternal grandmother??? If its sex linked it shouln't be paternal, i dunno, I'm rackin my brain on this one now. rrrrrr
Yar, the flies be everywhere!!!
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those reading this thread please see the one I'm about to start in general medicen called...hmmmm to come up with a name....."smelly pits".... its along the same lines, but kind of new so, yeah... go read it!
Yar, the flies be everywhere!!!
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Man, no one's made a shot at my genetics question yet! This has been driving me nuts for 2 days now!!!! Oh well, maybe I'll ask around at work tomorrow.
Cut me some slack I'm new around here!
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hello
i've been reading this thread with interest. i am 19 years old and i have a problem with sweating. It started when i was about 14 years old. I usually sweat excessively under my arms. Its usually when i go out and meet people or when i go to work. I become conscious that im sweating there and seem to sweat even more though.
I do sweat really easily in general. I consider myself a reasonably healthy active guy but i break a sweat as soon as i start excercising, im not out of breath or even tired, but my forehead and body get really bad.
Im not sure if this is the latter stages of puberty of something. Im baffled a bit, and its embarrising to be sweating when im at work etc.
The only thing i can think of besides this is that my weight may be slightly over what it should be. Im not obese, far from, but i would consider myself to be a little over weight.
Im a clean person, i've tried many deoderants, all to no help.
Has anyone got any light on the subject
Many Thanks