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Title: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: neilep on 12/10/2007 16:55:22
Dear Chocolatiers,

I was bored for a few minutes so whilst on the phone , with my free arm I whipped these up earlier today.



* castle-weddingcake.jpg (25.3 kB . 290x380 - viewed 8272 times)



* cmoosefn.jpg (68.25 kB . 498x329 - viewed 10202 times)


What I want to know is...is white choccy really real choccy !...where is the brown ?... how do they make brown choccy white ?

Ewe never see white choccy  versions of the high cocoa content dark choccy bars do ewe ?





Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: Carolyn on 12/10/2007 18:03:47
How did you know chocolate moose is my favorite? [;)]



THANKS!!! [:D]  That's exactly what I've been craving.
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: JimBob on 12/10/2007 19:31:16
Ask our Swiss representative on the board. 

Alandriel, are you on-line?????

Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: Karen W. on 12/10/2007 20:27:42
I don't know why, but I cannot stand white chocolate but I love the castle very good work Kind Sir!


I don't know white chocolate in my humble opinion tastes way different!

Nice cabin...good re-"TREAT" LOL LOL... oh sorry! HEE HEE
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 12/10/2007 20:36:39
Is the cabin made from chocolate logs? (Serious question, not a pun)
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: elegantlywasted on 12/10/2007 20:58:11
From my baking experience I read (cant remember what cookbook, or possibly what cooking show) that white chocolate is infact not chocolate at all. It is a sugar compound, same with all of the fancy coloured chocolate chips and such you find at the bulk store.
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: another_someone on 12/10/2007 22:44:36
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_chocolate
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White chocolate is a confection of sugar, cocoa butter, and milk solids. Unlike chocolate, white chocolate contains neither chocolate liquor nor cocoa solids. The low melting point of cocoa butter allows white chocolate and chocolate to remain solid at room temperature, yet melt easily in the mouth. As such, white chocolate has a texture similar to that of milk chocolate.

Origin and production

White chocolate was first made in New Hampshire after World War I. M&M Candy was the first to produce white chocolate in the United States, having seen the product made in Europe just one year earlier. It was first popularly distributed in America in 1984[citation needed] with the introduction of Nestlé's Alpine White Chocolate bar, which contained white chocolate and chopped almonds.

Composition and regulations

Since white chocolate contains neither cocoa solids nor chocolate liquor (cocoa mass), it does not meet the standard to be marketed as chocolate in many countries. Regulations also govern what may be marketed as "white chocolate": In the United States, since 2004, white chocolate must be at least 20% cocoa butter (by weight), at least 14% total milk solids, at least 3.5% milk fat, and less than 55% sugar or other sweeteners. Before this date, U.S. firms required temporary marketing permits to sell white chocolate. The European Union has adopted the same standards, except that there is no limit on sugar or sweeteners.

Some "white chocolate", known as confectioner's coating or summer coating, is made from inexpensive solid or hydrogenated vegetable fats, and as such, is not at all derived from cocoa. These preparations may actually be white in color (in contrast to white chocolate's ivory shade) and will lack cocoa butter's flavor.
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: LaurenaS on 17/01/2021 20:26:53
White chocolate is made of cocoa, however only the fat part.  It contains ingredients such as butter, milk products, vanilla and lecithin. Therefore it is considered technically not as chocolate.
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: chris on 18/01/2021 09:41:23
White chocolate is made of cocoa, however only the fat part.  It contains ingredients such as butter, milk products, vanilla and lecithin. Therefore it is considered technically not as chocolate.
That's "white", white chocolate isn't really chocolate. It's fat that tastes like chocolate owing to the presence of cocoa butter helped along by lashings of sugar. As such, it lacks any of the beneficial nutritional qualities of proper dark (high cocoa mass) chocolate. Me, I can't stand white chocolate (because I know what I'm eating) and I adore the proper, 90% cocoa, dark unadulterated stuff...  :P
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: Bored chemist on 18/01/2021 11:20:21
I adore the proper, 90% cocoa, dark unadulterated stuff
It has the advantage that you can leave it on your desk and nobody nicks it (well, not twice, anyway).
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: charles1948 on 18/01/2021 17:44:37
I once bought a bar of 90%- cocoa chocolate. It was vile. Unbearably bitter. Binned it after one square.  Perhaps it's an acquired taste.
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: wolfekeeper on 21/01/2021 04:07:35
White chocolate is made from cocoa, and hence is a type of chocolate. It contains as much cocoa as most milk chocolates. But it is a very different tasting product because it doesn't contain the cocoa solids. But it is still a creamy melt-in-your mouth type of chocolate because the melting point is below body temperature.
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: chris on 23/01/2021 12:03:02
I once bought a bar of 90%- cocoa chocolate. It was vile. Unbearably bitter. Binned it after one square.  Perhaps it's an acquired taste.

It's not something you eat a lot of at once. A small piece every so often is very agreeable. I had some Columbian 90%; gorgeous stuff. Very expensive though!
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: Bored chemist on 23/01/2021 12:11:00
I had some Columbian 90%; gorgeous stuff.
We are still talking about chocolate...?
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: axscientist on 24/01/2021 21:43:25
No, white chocolate is technically not real chocolate, since it contains no true cocoa particles. It is made from cocoa BUTTER plus sugar and other sweeteners.
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: Colin2B on 24/01/2021 23:06:31
No, white chocolate is technically not real chocolate
Try telling that to the Milky Bar Kid!
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: JerryWong on 25/01/2021 07:45:50
White chocolate consists of cocoa butter, milk powder and sugar. Each type of chocolate is based on one method of production. However, the nuances of cooking vary depending on the recipe, quality and type of raw materials. At the same time, all chocolate has a distinctive characteristic aroma of cocoa.White chocolate can be called chocolate if, among other requirements, it contains at least 20 percent cocoa butter.
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: set fair on 11/02/2021 22:20:45
I once bought a bar of 90%- cocoa chocolate. It was vile. Unbearably bitter. Binned it after one square.  Perhaps it's an acquired taste.


Yes it's vile and yes it's an aquired taste. You aquire it by reading the sunday papers.
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: scientistlover1 on 12/02/2021 09:33:48
Hey guys,
I would say that white chocolate is real chocolate, because the basis for white chocolate (like other types of chocolate) is cocoa beans. However, cocoa powder is omitted in the production process, which is why white chocolate also has the white color.
Best regards :)
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: searchingscience on 12/02/2021 12:35:10
Hey there!
First of all, white chocolate does not have the cocoa solids that give darker or milk chocolate its recognizable flavor and color. And yes, a lot of white chocolates contain additives (palm oil and other).
But the cocoa bean is separated in cocoa nibs and cocoa butter. The nibs cause the taste and smell. White chocolate needs a certain amount of cocoa butter to be called chocolate, but it does not need cocoa nibs.
So in some way it can be called chocolate because it has the same base (cocoa bean).
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: zeffer21 on 26/07/2022 12:52:26
Dear Chocolatiers,

I was bored for a few minutes so whilst on the phone , with my free arm I whipped these up earlier today.



* castle-weddingcake.jpg (25.3 kB . 290x380 - viewed 8272 times)



* cmoosefn.jpg (68.25 kB . 498x329 - viewed 10202 times)


What I want to know is...is white choccy really real choccy !...where is the brown ?... how do they make brown choccy white ?

Ewe never see white choccy  versions of the high cocoa content dark choccy bars do ewe ?

The chocolate castle looks really good. Whenever I see something like this, I stare at it for hours with admiration.
Title: It is also the most delicious of all chocoRe: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: JesWade21 on 29/08/2022 13:19:18
It is also the most delicious of all chocolate. If it ain't white, it ain't right
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: MirrorBall7 on 01/09/2022 19:33:25
Yep, white chocolate it's a real choco. :)
Title: Re: Is White Chocolate real Chocolate?
Post by: thugtomas on 26/09/2022 14:54:18
What's white chocolate? Actually it isn't even chocolate because it does not contain cocoa particles. It is just cocoa butter mixed with sugar, often with a little vanilla added for flavoring.