Train sickness it is unknown, because train travel on more straight direction and seldom steering up the hill and down a hill.Not true... my mother gets sick on trains if she's facing away from the direction of travel. If she's facing forward and can see out of the window it's fine.
RosyQuoteGBSB:Not true... my mother gets sick on trains if she's facing away from the direction of travel. If she's facing forward and can see out of the window it's fine.
Train sickness it is unknown, because train travel on more straight direction and seldom steering up the hill and down a hill.
Do deaf people get seasick?
If so then I think we can kiss goodbye to any idea that it's produced by infrasound (at least unless you can find another organ to sense the infrasound).
This page
http://www.royaldeaf.org.uk/page.php?id=100303
sugests that deaf peopel do suffer from seasickness.
I don't get seasick (or airsick or whatever) but I do get uncomfortable when there are high levels of low frequency sound- the ventilation system where I work sometimes has this effect.
Carsickness is caused by the motor which produces a special and rumbling low-frequency noise.Motion sickness occurs without an engine.
Train, metro, truck, motorcycle and tractor which produce no such noise will cause no carsickness.No so. I know people who suffer motion sickness on all of these.
The symptoms caused respectively by gyrating and carsickness are quite different. Gyrating movements will cause dizziness, while carsickness usually causes nausea or sleepiness. This is why authors of many scholar articles only state that gyrating symptoms are associated to carsickness, but the reasons behind carsickness are still unknown. Only unreliable knowledge popularizing articles say that the reason of carsickness is gyrating movements. This is not true. Actually, gyrating movements are not related to carsickness, which is actually caused by a special low-frequency noise. Only this kind of noise can cause exactly the same symptoms of carsickness. For example, even without staying on the airplane, the noise of airplane engine can also cause symptoms of carsickness. Experts of carsickness around the world all know that only noise can cause exactly the same symptoms of carsickness, but they fraud people by saying that this phenomenon is only a psychological reaction!Carsickness is caused by the motor which produces a special and rumbling low-frequency noise.Motion sickness occurs without an engine.
Standard laboratory test to induce motion sickness is a standard office chair, subject blindfolded, chair rotated, subject told to put head back to side etc. Very rarely does this fail to bring on motion sickness. No motor.Train, metro, truck, motorcycle and tractor which produce no such noise will cause no carsickness.No so. I know people who suffer motion sickness on all of these.
If you have a theory of vibration induced sickness you need to clasify it as a separate theory from motion sickness.
The stuff in my sickbags depends on what the victim had for breakfast, not whether the aircraft has an engine.It was firstly proposed by a Chinese physicist of acoustics that motion sickness was caused by infrasound. After reflecting on this over and over again for years, I think this view is wrong. In my opinion, motion sickness is supposed to result from booming low-frequency noise. For instance, it is beyond doubt that extremely loud booming low-frequency noise is always heard inside vehicles which easily bring about motion sickness. Inside vehicles without such noise, motion sickness isn’t caused at all. In spite of loud noise of tractors, people don’t feel sick inside them because there is no booming low-frequency noise. The key reason consists in that the noise of tractors doesn’t distract people because they don’t impact their verbal communications due to differences between frequency of the noise and people’s voices.
Part of the problem with instrument flying, yacht navigation or rear-seat car sickness is the inability of the semicircular canals to distinguish between linear acceleration and circular motion. You can induce carsickness by stop-start driving on a straight road, and airsickness on scheduled flights or glider "dolphining" is caused by sudden changes of pitch attitude, not turning.
If it's all due to infrasound, why don't pilots and drivers suffer the same symptoms as their passengers? It isn't a matter of aptitude or experience - hardened drivers often throw up when navigating in rallies, and the most experienced pilots still need to swap duties with each other to avoid becoming incapacitated under competition conditions.
The one time I had an entirely incapacitated crew was on a fairly large yacht, reaching into an opposing tide. For about two hours, we made no progress over the ground but just pitched and rolled at random intervals in almost total silence, broken only by groans and the sound of eight experienced sailors donating their stomach contents to the sea. The only relief was to do something: taking the helm in turn, or tweaking the sheets, though the latter was completely unncessary as we had the boat pretty well trimmed anyway, but the feeling of being a bit in control or able to anticipate the next roll was very calming.
Early on in my sailing days I noticed an uncharacteristic craving for ginger biscuits. I later discovered that Chinese sailors have always used ginger as a prophylactic against seasickness, and it seems to work as well as modern molecules without inducing drowsiness. Any explanation would be welcome!
Early on in my sailing days I noticed an uncharacteristic craving for ginger biscuits. I later discovered that Chinese sailors have always used ginger as a prophylactic against seasickness, and it seems to work as well as modern molecules without inducing drowsiness. Any explanation would be welcome!Lots of sailors swear by ginger and interestingly NHS site recommends it for morning sickness. I've never found any firm evidence, some studies say it works others not. It's often discussed on sailing forums but seems to depend on the individual whether it works. It's a long time since I trawled the research, might have another look, if I come across anything interesting I'll let you know.
Some other evidences can prove that motion sickness just arises from the aforementioned noise: People with good hearing easily suffer from motion sickness, while the deaf and dumb who can’t hear don’t feel sick inside vehicles at all.
Wow!The evidence show that people who gets sick in a car usually can travel in trains or motorcycles without any discomfort at all.
You came back after all this time, and ignored the evidence.
The evidence show that people who gets sick in a car usually can travel in trains or motorcycles without any discomfort at all.
Why?
The evidence show that people who gets sick in a car usually can travel in trains or motorcycles without any discomfort at all.In addition to the post above which I agree with.
(part of seasickness is caused by low-frequency noise from storm at sea, which is unavoidable natural disaster)
I can tell how I think it it works in my case. I have sea sickness that occurs after about half an hour, and also if i am onboard a helicopter for more than 3-4 hours.Your question has already been thought about a lot, if seasickness is caused by shaking, then why until now there is no exercise specialist says that the cause of motion sickness have been found in the world is shaking? But why do the real recognized reasons of motion sickness not be found? I always take the boat with a big quake, but I never have the feeling of seasickness and never see the people around me have the slightest seasick symptom.The old crew on the sea almost all the year round has said that the more shaking the boat is, the less possibility to get seasick. Thus it can be seen that seasickness has nothing to do with shaking and sports. Ancient Chinese and ancient Greece had a view that the boat sailing on the sea would cause nausea when it met sandstorms(Because carsickness and seasickness only have the signs of nausea and vomiting with no vertigo syndromes. Only rotation will have symptoms of dizziness and seasickness. Carsickness and seasickness with the symptom of dizziness are fabricated by experts to confuse the symptom of carsickness and seasickness with that of dizzy.) There is no saying that ancient people would feel nausea when they took the shaking carriages with large turbulence, this is because the shaking of ancient carriage is very violent, but there is no engine producing low-frequency noise, that won't cause carsickness. Different reasons will inevitably lead to different results. If the shaking of boat can really cause seasickness, so this kind of seasick symptom caused by shaking and seasickness caused by low-frequency noise will certainly be different, which can just prove seasickness has two reasons, low-frequency noise and shaking that will cause relevant two different seasickness. As I discovered in 1992, the nightmare was caused by two palpitations, racing heart and slow beating, which would correspondingly cause being pursued, attacked and people flying up and down. So seasickness has the same story with these two common nightmares.
In the past I have experienced a period of chronic fatigue that made me even more sensitive to motion. I have onserve that if I played on a computer a game that I wasn't used to the motiom mechanics, I would get that sickness quite quickly. A 3d video for example can make almost anyone feel sick. Therefore, the sickness must be related to the brain. If the motion you experience doesn't match what the brains expect to happen the brain needs to learn the new mechanics. If the flow information that comes is high, I suppose that some hormones are activated that enables the brain to cope with the high demand. However, if the hormone production cannot keep upwith the requirements the hormones levels go down and the brain cannot handle the situation well and you get sick. Now that I have passed the chronical fatigue phase, I can cope much better with things like that. The chronical fatigue was confirmed by symptoms like poor sleep during night and sleepiness during the day, slow recovery after exercise, poor digestion, joint pain, poor immunity (frequent colds),etc.
As a conclusion, it should be related to the hormone production capacity and overal endocrine strengthness.
Also if you have a problem with the inner ear for example it can cause random inputs that confuse the brain.
if constantly motion sickness, the gallbladder should be checked, the gall may stagnate and cause intoxicationWhat utter nonsense.
Scientific theories can also be testable and make falsifiable predictions.For instance, a view holds, Carsickness is caused by special low-frequency rumbling noises. Hence people with acute hearing become sick easily, while deaf people who can’t hear any noise do not get carsickness. Also, even when people are standing near an airplane rather than riding on the car, the stimuli from the low-frequency rumbling of the airplane’s motor still triggers intense airsickness.We not get carsickness can't hear the low dull rumbling sounds from the aircraft, trains, subways, trucks, motorcycles, tractors.People get carsickness on trains or subways running at the same speed when hearing low-frequency noise. If any evidence can be cited to prove that deaf people also get carsickness yet can avoid it by not riding any vehicles, this opinion can be invalidated. In reality, however, pseudoscience cannot be falsifiable predictions. For instance, a pseudoscience opinion that carsickness is caused by 3D optokinetic stimulation cannot be overturned by the fact that the blind still gets carsicknes
Wow!
You came back after all this time, and ignored the evidence.
It has been proved that deaf people don’t get motion sickness.for exampleNo, it has not.
Scientific theories can be confirmed.Not really; you can't prove that a scientific theory is true; but you can sometimes show when one is false.
nightmares are caused by the symptoms of tachycardia. bradycardia or premature beat.nope.
I can tell how I think it it works in my case. I have sea sickness that occurs after about half an hour, and also if i am onboard a helicopter for more than 3-4 hours.It's true thatgyrating movements、 a 3d video can make almost anyone feel sicka, but the symptoms caused respectively by gyrating 、a 3d video and carsickness are quite different. Gyrating movements 、a 3d video will cause dizziness, while carsickness usually causes nausea or sleepiness. This is why authors of many scholar articles only state that gyrating 、a 3d video symptoms are associated to carsickness, but the reasons behind carsickness are still unknown. Only unreliable knowledge popularizing articles say that the reason of carsickness is gyrating movements、a 3d video. This is not true. Actually, gyrating movements a 3d video are not related to carsickness, which is actually caused by a special low-frequency noise. Only this kind of noise can cause exactly the same symptoms of carsickness. For example, even without staying on the airplane, the noise of airplane engine can also cause symptoms of carsickness. Experts of carsickness around the world all know that only noise can cause exactly the same symptoms of carsickness, but they fraud people by saying that this phenomenon is only a psychological reaction!
In the past I have experienced a period of chronic fatigue that made me even more sensitive to motion. I have onserve that if I played on a computer a game that I wasn't used to the motiom mechanics, I would get that sickness quite quickly. A 3d video for example can make almost anyone feel sick. Therefore, the sickness must be related to the brain. If the motion you experience doesn't match what the brains expect to happen the brain needs to learn the new mechanics. If the flow information that comes is high, I suppose that some hormones are activated that enables the brain to cope with the high demand. However, if the hormone production cannot keep upwith the requirements the hormones levels go down and the brain cannot handle the situation well and you get sick. Now that I have passed the chronical fatigue phase, I can cope much better with things like that. The chronical fatigue was confirmed by symptoms like poor sleep during night and sleepiness during the day, slow recovery after exercise, poor digestion, joint pain, poor immunity (frequent colds),etc.
As a conclusion, it should be related to the hormone production capacity and overal endocrine strengthness.
Also if you have a problem with the inner ear for example it can cause random inputs that confuse the brain.
he symptoms caused respectively by gyrating 、a 3d video and carsickness are quite different.No.
Experts of carsickness around the world all know that only noise can cause exactly the same symptoms of carsickness,No, because reading a book does not change the sound, but it will induce carsickness.
The symptoms caused respectively by gyrating and carsickness are quite different. Gyrating movements will cause dizziness, while carsickness usually causes nausea or sleepiness. This is why authors of many scholar articles only state that gyrating symptoms are associated to carsickness, but the reasons behind carsickness are still unknown. Only unreliable knowledge popularizing articles say that the reason of carsickness is gyrating movements. This is not true. Actually, gyrating movements are not related to carsickness, which is actually caused by a special low-frequency noise. Only this kind of noise can cause exactly the same symptoms of carsickness. For example, even without staying on the airplane, the noise of airplane engine can also cause symptoms of carsickness. Fifty years ago, more or less, Republic Aviation built a turboprop jet fighter based on the F84. It was designed to be transonic and the design propellor tip speed was supersonic. During ground tests of full power and prop RPM it was discovered that every member of the ground crew was rendered violently nauseous by the resulting high frequency ( beyond normal hearing range ) noise.Experts of carsickness around the world all know that only noise can cause exactly the same symptoms of carsickness, but they fraud people by saying that this phenomenon is only a psychological reaction!he symptoms caused respectively by gyrating 、a 3d video and carsickness are quite different.No.
That's just stuff you made up, based on wishful thinking.Experts of carsickness around the world all know that only noise can cause exactly the same symptoms of carsickness,No, because reading a book does not change the sound, but it will induce carsickness.
It is very clear that you are wrong.
Why do you keep on talking nonsense?
Are you trolling?
Just repeating the same utter nonsense. Definitely trolling.The symptoms caused respectively by gyrating and carsickness are quite different. Gyrating movements will cause dizziness, while carsickness usually causes nausea or sleepiness. This is why authors of many scholar articles only state that gyrating symptoms are associated to carsickness, but the reasons behind carsickness are still unknown. Only unreliable knowledge popularizing articles say that the reason of carsickness is gyrating movements. This is not true. Actually, gyrating movements are not related to carsickness, which is actually caused by a special low-frequency noise. Only this kind of noise can cause exactly the same symptoms of carsickness. For example, even without staying on the airplane, the noise of airplane engine can also cause symptoms of carsickness. Fifty years ago, more or less, Republic Aviation built a turboprop jet fighter based on the F84. It was designed to be transonic and the design propellor tip speed was supersonic. During ground tests of full power and prop RPM it was discovered that every member of the ground crew was rendered violently nauseous by the resulting high frequency ( beyond normal hearing range ) noise.Experts of carsickness around the world all know that only noise can cause exactly the same symptoms of carsickness, but they fraud people by saying that this phenomenon is only a psychological reaction!he symptoms caused respectively by gyrating 、a 3d video and carsickness are quite different.No.
That's just stuff you made up, based on wishful thinking.Experts of carsickness around the world all know that only noise can cause exactly the same symptoms of carsickness,No, because reading a book does not change the sound, but it will induce carsickness.
It is very clear that you are wrong.
Why do you keep on talking nonsense?
Are you trolling?
There are over 3 different types of motion sickness , each with their own causes, symptoms, and treatmentsOccam disagrees with you.
the engine power of the first space capsule that the astronauts of the two countries took was lowNo.
but no motion sickness expert has studied the factors of low-frequency noise.Deaf people get seasick.
You search Google with the keyword "Deaf people get seasick"but no motion sickness expert has studied the factors of low-frequency noise.Deaf people get seasick.
So we know noise isn't the cause.
You search Google with the keyword "Deaf people get seasick"And you get referred back to this thread.
The low-frequency noise of seasickness is caused by stormFor some passengers, but not others?
The real irony here is that all your silly claims ae anecdotal; they are just a story that you (and only you) tell.
For the same reason, the spinning motion method is not effective for motion sickness caused by 3d video and low frequency noise.Therefore, in the article "The chair that stops you from vomiting in flight"
There are many reasons for low-frequency noise. The low-frequency noise of seasickness is caused by stormThe storm does not affect workers on oil rigs or lighthouses, because they stay still.
Everything Shannon Scannon said was a lie.If that was true, the military would have noticed by now and given up on using his technique.
ballet dancers and figure skater over years of training like pilots suppress input from the vestibular system and the response to that input, so they don't experience motion sickness when spinning.But the incidence rate of ballet dancer's carsickness is the same as that of ordinary people.Everything Shannon Scannon said was a lie.If that was true, the military would have noticed by now and given up on using his technique.
However, that chair- where the person in it gets sick, but the doctor next to them (and thus exposed to the same sound) does not get sick- is further proof that you are wrong.
ballet dancers and figure skater over years of training like pilots suppress input from the vestibular systemThank you for confirming that the issue arises with the vestibular system.
The reason why workers on oil rigs or lighthouses won't get carsick must be that the low-frequency noise is relatively small.There are many reasons for low-frequency noise. The low-frequency noise of seasickness is caused by stormThe storm does not affect workers on oil rigs or lighthouses, because they stay still.
There is a reason why it is called "motion sickness".
Face it, your idea is wrong.
That suggestion is silly.The reason why workers on oil rigs or lighthouses won't get carsick must be that the low-frequency noise is relatively small.There are many reasons for low-frequency noise. The low-frequency noise of seasickness is caused by stormThe storm does not affect workers on oil rigs or lighthouses, because they stay still.
There is a reason why it is called "motion sickness".
Face it, your idea is wrong.
You didn't consider the sound intensity decreases inversely proportional to the squared distance, that is, with 1/r² from the measuring point to the sound source, so that doubling of the distance deceases the sound intensity to a quarter of its initial value.That suggestion is silly.The reason why workers on oil rigs or lighthouses won't get carsick must be that the low-frequency noise is relatively small.There are many reasons for low-frequency noise. The low-frequency noise of seasickness is caused by stormThe storm does not affect workers on oil rigs or lighthouses, because they stay still.
There is a reason why it is called "motion sickness".
Face it, your idea is wrong.
It's going to be just the same as on a ship.
Low frequency sound travels very well through air.
You didn't consider the sound intensity decreases inversely proportional to the squared distance, that is, with 1/r² from the measuring point to the sound source, so that doubling of the distance deceases the sound intensity to a quarter of its initial value.
When you are 0.1M away from the aircraft engine, you will get airsick when you hear the noise of the aircraft engine. When you are 0.2m away from the aircraft engine, you will not get airsick due to the reduction of sound intensity.You didn't consider the sound intensity decreases inversely proportional to the squared distance, that is, with 1/r² from the measuring point to the sound source, so that doubling of the distance deceases the sound intensity to a quarter of its initial value.
You are correct in saying that I didn't consider it.
Because it's wrong.
The inverse square law applies if you are considering a point source of sound (or light) but if you are considering an extended source such as the sea the fall off with distance is much slower. For a very large flat source, such as the sea, there's actually an inverse zeroth power law. The intensity is independent of distance. (That's why the absorption by air is important and that's why I pointed out that low frequency sounds carry well.)
Did you not know about that?
Also, someone sitting on the harbour wall watching the waves is much closer to them than someone on the top deck of a cruise ship, but only the ship-board one will get sick.
This is because you are wrong.
Because you, like those experts who study motion sickness, don't understand the physical properties of low-frequency noise, you come to the wrong conclusion.For example, in 1997, Professor Yu Lishen, China's most authoritative expert on Sports diseases at the Beijing Air Force Institute of Aeronautical medicine, once asked me a question: why do you hear a very loud noise when flying over the airport, but you won't get airsick?You didn't consider the sound intensity decreases inversely proportional to the squared distance, that is, with 1/r² from the measuring point to the sound source, so that doubling of the distance deceases the sound intensity to a quarter of its initial value.
You are correct in saying that I didn't consider it.
Because it's wrong.
The inverse square law applies if you are considering a point source of sound (or light) but if you are considering an extended source such as the sea the fall off with distance is much slower. For a very large flat source, such as the sea, there's actually an inverse zeroth power law. The intensity is independent of distance. (That's why the absorption by air is important and that's why I pointed out that low frequency sounds carry well.)
Did you not know about that?
Also, someone sitting on the harbour wall watching the waves is much closer to them than someone on the top deck of a cruise ship, but only the ship-board one will get sick.
This is because you are wrong.
When you are 0.1M away from the aircraft engine, you will get airsick when you hear the noise of the aircraft engine. When you are 0.2m away from the aircraft engine, you will not get airsick due to the reduction of sound intensity.Nobody sits that close to the engine.
Ma Dayou
was not a medical expert and had no energy to pay attention to medical problems.
don't understand the physical properties of low-frequency noise,You are the one who thought it always followed the inverse square law; you are the one who does not understand.
Motion sickness theory,does not explain why presumably weak stimuli such as slow ship movements and a slow-moving car often result in motion sickness while more powerful and active movements such as walking, jumping, and swimming do not usually cause motion sickness.Yes it does.
Because the low-frequency noise generated by the car is relatively small, strong low-frequency noise can be generated only in a completely closed place, and it makes people carsick.Motion sickness theory,does not explain why presumably weak stimuli such as slow ship movements and a slow-moving car often result in motion sickness while more powerful and active movements such as walking, jumping, and swimming do not usually cause motion sickness.Yes it does.
Why lie about it?
On the other hand, a pedestrian next to the traffic is exposed to almost the same sound as the occupants of the slow car or whatever and they do not get motion sickness..
So your idea that it is due to sound does not work, does it?
strong low-frequency noise can be generated only in a completely closed place,That's not true.
Why lie about it?
Sorry, I didn't express my opinion correctly.I mean, the low-frequency noise generated by the car is too small to make people carsick directly like the noise generated by the aircraft engine. Cars must amplify the intensity of low-frequency noise in a completely closed place to make people carsick.strong low-frequency noise can be generated only in a completely closed place,That's not true.Why lie about it?
Because the experiments of motion sickness experts have always been unable to replicate the same symptoms as carsickness and seasickness.
That's not true.
Quote from: Bored chemist on Today at 08:35:08
Why lie about it?
Cars must amplify the intensity of low-frequency noise in a completely closed place to make people carsick.Show your data.
Found in Google:Cars must amplify the intensity of low-frequency noise in a completely closed place to make people carsick.Show your data.
His method is correct, but his explanation is wrong.No
I designed an experiment that everyone can do to prove that carsickness is caused by low-frequency noise and has nothing to do with motion.It is to select a car with large low-frequency noise and easy to make people feel carsick, completely close the window, and the people participating in the experiment must wear an oxygen mask (to avoid suffocation and death when the air is not circulating). When the car is in neutral and the car is stationary, step on the car accelerator to the bottom to maximize the low-frequency noise in the car, It is bound to make people with good hearing carsick.A similar experiment is done countless times every day.
Did you just call those deaf people liars?
(It's hardly credible that they are mistaken about motion sickness)
Or do you accept that they get travel-sick and that you are wrong.
You do realise that just one person is enough to kill your theory , don't you?
But, of course, we already knew that.
Nausea and nautical have the same linguistic roots.
The phenomenon of seasickness has been documented for centuries.
And so your claim that it's anything to do with engines is nonsense.
The real irony here is that all your silly claims ae anecdotal; they are just a story that you (and only you) tell.
There are many patterns of hearing loss. Generally clinicians group them along several axes; sensory vs conductive; the severity axis -- mild vs moderate vs. profound; the time axis -- sudden vs progressive vs chronic, and the frequency spectrum that is affected. Roughly speaking, the frequency patterns of hearing loss are divided up into: Low-frequency, mid-frequency, high-frequency, notches, and flat. Among them, only the deaf people with low-frequency hearing loss will not get carsick and seasick. Deaf peoplewith other types of hearing loss will still get carsick and seasick.but no motion sickness expert has studied the factors of low-frequency noise.Deaf people get seasick.
So we know noise isn't the cause.
I know there are different types of hearing loss.There are many patterns of hearing loss. Generally clinicians group them along several axes; sensory vs conductive; the severity axis -- mild vs moderate vs. profound; the time axis -- sudden vs progressive vs chronic, and the frequency spectrum that is affected. Roughly speaking, the frequency patterns of hearing loss are divided up into: Low-frequency, mid-frequency, high-frequency, notches, and flat. Among them, only the deaf people with low-frequency hearing loss will not get carsick and seasick. Deaf peoplewith other types of hearing loss will still get carsick and seasick.but no motion sickness expert has studied the factors of low-frequency noise.Deaf people get seasick.
So we know noise isn't the cause.
There's this
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/05/05/i-wanted-to-serve-these-deaf-men-helped-nasa-understand-motion-sickness-in-space/
which shows that people with knackered semi-circular canals don't get motion sick- because that's where the problem is caused.
But people with other forms of deafness (who clearly can't hear infrasound) do get motion sickness.
I know there are different types of hearing loss.There are many patterns of hearing loss. Generally clinicians group them along several axes; sensory vs conductive; the severity axis -- mild vs moderate vs. profound; the time axis -- sudden vs progressive vs chronic, and the frequency spectrum that is affected. Roughly speaking, the frequency patterns of hearing loss are divided up into: Low-frequency, mid-frequency, high-frequency, notches, and flat. Among them, only the deaf people with low-frequency hearing loss will not get carsick and seasick. Deaf peoplewith other types of hearing loss will still get carsick and seasick.but no motion sickness expert has studied the factors of low-frequency noise.Deaf people get seasick.
So we know noise isn't the cause.
I pointed it out to you.There's this
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/05/05/i-wanted-to-serve-these-deaf-men-helped-nasa-understand-motion-sickness-in-space/
which shows that people with knackered semi-circular canals don't get motion sick- because that's where the problem is caused.
But people with other forms of deafness (who clearly can't hear infrasound) do get motion sickness.
In addition, all the deaf people without long-term spinning training will experience motion sickness(dizziness due to spinning) in a spinning chair .I know there are different types of hearing loss.There are many patterns of hearing loss. Generally clinicians group them along several axes; sensory vs conductive; the severity axis -- mild vs moderate vs. profound; the time axis -- sudden vs progressive vs chronic, and the frequency spectrum that is affected. Roughly speaking, the frequency patterns of hearing loss are divided up into: Low-frequency, mid-frequency, high-frequency, notches, and flat. Among them, only the deaf people with low-frequency hearing loss will not get carsick and seasick. Deaf peoplewith other types of hearing loss will still get carsick and seasick.but no motion sickness expert has studied the factors of low-frequency noise.Deaf people get seasick.
So we know noise isn't the cause.
I pointed it out to you.There's this
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/05/05/i-wanted-to-serve-these-deaf-men-helped-nasa-understand-motion-sickness-in-space/
which shows that people with knackered semi-circular canals don't get motion sick- because that's where the problem is caused.
But people with other forms of deafness (who clearly can't hear infrasound) do get motion sickness.
In addition, all the deaf people without long-term spinning training will experience motion sickness(dizziness due to spinning) in a spinning chair .That's just not true; as shown by people like these.
Answered 1 year ago · Author has 2.7K answers and 1.2M answer viewsIn addition, all the deaf people without long-term spinning training will experience motion sickness(dizziness due to spinning) in a spinning chair .That's just not true; as shown by people like these.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/how-11-deaf-men-helped-shape-nasas-human-spaceflight-program
Why is this mistaken belief so important to you that you lie about it?
Deafness per se has nothing to do with vertigo,Vertigo has nothing to do with motion sickness.
There are many causes of vertigo, including those that are rare, like vestibular neuritis, and Meniere’s disease. Vertigo can also occur with migraine headache. It is also possible to induce vertigo by spinning quickly in circles, or through intoxication.Deafness per se has nothing to do with vertigo,Vertigo has nothing to do with motion sickness.
There are many causes of vertigo, including those that are rare, like vestibular neuritis, and Meniere’s disease. Vertigo can also occur with migraine headache. It is also possible to induce vertigo by spinning quickly in circles, or through intoxication.And there is exactly one cause of motion sickness, and that's motion.
No motion experiment has replicated the symptoms of carsickness and seasickness.Therefore, so far, no motion sickness expert claims to have found the causes of carsickness and seasickness.Now all the theories of motion sickness are a hypothesis! Only experiments with low-frequency noise can replicate the symptoms of carsickness and seasickness. Therefore, carsickness and seasickness are caused by low-frequency noise.There are many causes of vertigo, including those that are rare, like vestibular neuritis, and Meniere’s disease. Vertigo can also occur with migraine headache. It is also possible to induce vertigo by spinning quickly in circles, or through intoxication.And there is exactly one cause of motion sickness, and that's motion.
So, thank you for proving my point.
They are not the same condition.
No motion experiment has replicated the symptoms of carsickness and seasickness.Yes they have.
Only experiments with low-frequency noise can replicate the symptoms of carsickness and seasickness.Please cite the academic papers on this.
Virtual reality sickness - Wikipedia ：exposure to a virtual environment causes symptoms that are similar to motion sickness symptoms.Only experiments with low-frequency noise can replicate the symptoms of carsickness and seasickness.Please cite the academic papers on this.
In particular, show how the outcome is different from the motion sickness cause by VR.
Drivers or aviators long-term exposure to car Low frequency noise or after repeated exposures to the flying environment.will cause a temporary neurosensory low frequency hearing loss. Therefore, the driver or aviators will not get carsickness or airsickness.Airsickness or carsickness may also occur when a previously adapted individual returns to duty after a period of non-flying.This is because low-frequency hearing has been restored.His method is correct, but his explanation is wrong.No
People who suffer from motion sickness (who are the actual experts) will tell you that strong odours make symptoms worse.I designed an experiment that everyone can do to prove that carsickness is caused by low-frequency noise and has nothing to do with motion.It is to select a car with large low-frequency noise and easy to make people feel carsick, completely close the window, and the people participating in the experiment must wear an oxygen mask (to avoid suffocation and death when the air is not circulating). When the car is in neutral and the car is stationary, step on the car accelerator to the bottom to maximize the low-frequency noise in the car, It is bound to make people with good hearing carsick.A similar experiment is done countless times every day.
The driver is exposed to the same sound as the passengers, but only the passengers get sick.
Please cite the academic papers on this.I didn't ask for a link to a wiki page, did I?
In particular, show how the outcome is different from the motion sickness cause by VR.
However, for more than 100 years, mankind has made no progress in solving the problem of carsickness and seasickness,That's not true.
On the one hand motion sickness experts agreed on the way in the carsickness, seasickness and airsickness gets sick or motion sickness is caused by motion or rotation or visual stimuliI'm 100 % sure that it was the beer and the pizza that made me chuck in the taxi.
technically, that's better evidence than sgroclkc has provided.On the one hand motion sickness experts agreed on the way in the carsickness, seasickness and airsickness gets sick or motion sickness is caused by motion or rotation or visual stimuliI'm 100 % sure that it was the beer and the pizza that made me chuck in the taxi.
carsickness, seasickness and airsickness gets sick or motion sickness is caused by motion or rotation or visual stimuliHe left out lawnmower sickness I'm definitely sick of that.
Why sue you when they can just post on the internet, pointing out that you are clearly wrong?
Twenty years ago, Chinese motion sickness researchers said that the articles I published online were slandering scientists, which had seriously damaged their reputation. They wanted to sue me for libel. However, they are only limited to warning me on the Internet, and so far they dare not really sue me to the court.
Motion sickness researchers still dare not sue me because motion sickness researchers, like pseudo scientific gastrologists, are afraid to attract media attention.
All the scientific issues concerned by netizens will be replied by experts on the Internet. There are only nightmare problems, carsickness problems and earthquake problems. No expert in the world dares to publicly reply to netizens' questions.Now I am the only person in the world who dares to answer nightmare questions, carsickness questions and earthquake questions on the Internet.Happy Solstice, I see you are still posting tosh.
Similarly, there are scientific scams that regard scientific hypotheses that have not been confirmed by experiments as scientific theories, as well as earthquake theory, nightmare theory and stomach disease theory. The scientific scam of stomach disease theory, although the vested interests try to attack the experimental results of Helicobacter pylori of scientific researchers, this scam has now been exposed. The scientific experimental results of Helicobacter pylori have been recognized and won the Nobel Prize.When gastrologists saw the experimental results of gastric diseases caused by Helicobacter pylori and knew that their lies were about to be exposed, the despicable behavior of gastrologists was exactly the same as that of motion sickness researchers, leading to the burial of this great new scientific discovery for many years.Further, Dr. Marshall said, "The fact that the big drug companies who were supporting the journal articles ignored H. pylori was far more effective than actually saying that a bacterial cause was not true because if they had said it was false, or not important, they would have created a controversy and maybe media interest."
Refer to the article “Nobel Came After Years of Battling the System”
By Lawrence K. Altman, M.d.
I hadn't really looked at this thread until now because I was just curious on how could such a simple question go on for seven page. Now I wish I didn't look... ::)It is where it is for a reason ;D
Like previous gastric ulcer researchers, researchers of motion sickness now regard the hypothesis that has not been confirmed by repeated experiments as a scientific theory, which has caused great losses to mankind. Only the scientific fraud of gastric ulcer has been exposed. However, the scientific fraud of motion sickness is still deceiving the public and endangering our mankind. Of course, I will continue to struggle, Until this scientific scam is completely exposed.I hadn't really looked at this thread until now because I was just curious on how could such a simple question go on for seven page. Now I wish I didn't look... ::)It is where it is for a reason ;D
Of course, I will continue to struggle, Until this scientific scam is completely exposed.Oh sgroclkc, you're my hero!! Please save us all from the evils of motion sickness!!
Only the scientific fraud of gastric ulcer has been exposed.Who are you accusing of fraud?
The current authoritative nightmares theory, motion sickness theory, and earthquake theory and other popular scientific frauds or pseudoscience all around the world that I exposed have a common point. Namely, all those experts know clearly that what they advocate are misleading, and none of them dares to open a blog account online to answer consultation or questions from the public. Certainly, a very few experts do open a blog account online to answer public consultation because they don’t know that their theories are scientific frauds. Once I point out his mistakes, the expert will no longer answer others’ consultation online as other cheater experts do.Now I am the only person in the world who dares to answer nightmare questions, carsickness questions and earthquake questions on the Internet.Only the scientific fraud of gastric ulcer has been exposed.Who are you accusing of fraud?
The current authoritative nightmares theory, motion sickness theory, and earthquake theory and other popular scientific frauds or pseudoscience all around the world that I exposed have a common point. Namely, all those experts know clearly that what they advocate are misleading, and none of them dares to open a blog account online to answer consultation or questions from the public. Certainly, a very few experts do open a blog account online to answer public consultation because they don’t know that their theories are scientific frauds. Once I point out his mistakes, the expert will no longer answer others’ consultation online as other cheater experts do.Now I am the only person in the world who dares to answer nightmare questions, carsickness questions and earthquake questions on the Internet.You sound a bit unhinged...
[Don't attack me personally. My opinion belongs to freedom of speech.The current authoritative nightmares theory, motion sickness theory, and earthquake theory and other popular scientific frauds or pseudoscience all around the world that I exposed have a common point. Namely, all those experts know clearly that what they advocate are misleading, and none of them dares to open a blog account online to answer consultation or questions from the public. Certainly, a very few experts do open a blog account online to answer public consultation because they don’t know that their theories are scientific frauds. Once I point out his mistakes, the expert will no longer answer others’ consultation online as other cheater experts do.Now I am the only person in the world who dares to answer nightmare questions, carsickness questions and earthquake questions on the Internet.You sound a bit unhinged...
[As long as you find online scientists who dare to answer netizens or my questions, motion sickness scientists, nightmare scientists and earthquake scientists, you can immediately prove that my opinion is wrong.The current authoritative nightmares theory, motion sickness theory, and earthquake theory and other popular scientific frauds or pseudoscience all around the world that I exposed have a common point. Namely, all those experts know clearly that what they advocate are misleading, and none of them dares to open a blog account online to answer consultation or questions from the public. Certainly, a very few experts do open a blog account online to answer public consultation because they don’t know that their theories are scientific frauds. Once I point out his mistakes, the expert will no longer answer others’ consultation online as other cheater experts do.Now I am the only person in the world who dares to answer nightmare questions, carsickness questions and earthquake questions on the Internet.You sound a bit unhinged...
you can immediately prove that my opinion is wrong.We did.
On the Chinese quora website, I didn't see any articles published by researchers of motion sickness, earthquake and nightmare. On the English quora website, I only saw articles published by earthquake researchers in India, not by researchers of motion sickness and nightmare.you can immediately prove that my opinion is wrong.We did.
Don't attack me personally.Sorry, I meant your ideas sound a bit unhinged.
My opinion belongs to freedom of speech.Correct. My opinion that your ideas sound a bit unhinged also belongs to freedom of speech.
motion sickness scientists, nightmare scientists and earthquake scientistsI don't think there are motions sickness scientists or nightmare scientist per se. I think an earthquake scientist would be called a Geologist.
I'm not interested in Quora.On the Chinese quora website, I didn't see any articles published by researchers of motion sickness, earthquake and nightmare. On the English quora website, I only saw articles published by earthquake researchers in India, not by researchers of motion sickness and nightmare.you can immediately prove that my opinion is wrong.We did.
If you find that researchers of motion sickness and nightmares have published articles on the English quora website, please send out the link to the article. I will make these liars dare not continue to lie.
Motion sickness is the scientific problem that the public is most concerned about.No, it really isn't.
All the articles about motion sickness searched by Google are prohibited from public comment. These facts fully prove that every researcher of motion sickness has long known that the theory of motion sickness is deceptive.No, it does not prove that.
Drivers will not get carsick because their ears are stimulated by the low-frequency noise generated by the car engine for a long time, resulting in low-frequency hearing loss. Passengers get carsick because they have good low-frequency hearing.Only passengers who are usually prone to carsickness will not be carsick at all in this experiment, can prove that carsickness has nothing to do with low-frequency noise. On the contrary, it proves that carsickness has nothing to do with motion.His method is correct, but his explanation is wrong.No
People who suffer from motion sickness (who are the actual experts) will tell you that strong odours make symptoms worse.I designed an experiment that everyone can do to prove that carsickness is caused by low-frequency noise and has nothing to do with motion.It is to select a car with large low-frequency noise and easy to make people feel carsick, completely close the window, and the people participating in the experiment must wear an oxygen mask (to avoid suffocation and death when the air is not circulating). When the car is in neutral and the car is stationary, step on the car accelerator to the bottom to maximize the low-frequency noise in the car, It is bound to make people with good hearing carsick.A similar experiment is done countless times every day.
The driver is exposed to the same sound as the passengers, but only the passengers get sick.
Drivers will not get carsick because their ears are stimulated by the low-frequency noise generated by the car engine for a long time, resulting in low-frequency hearing loss.Most cars are not that loud, so you are wrong.
Low frequency noise is difficult to be heard by people's ears. If you can't hear low-frequency noise, it doesn't mean there is no low-frequency noise. Physicists reproduced the symptoms of carsickness through this low-frequency noise experiment. Therefore, physicists announced that they had found the cause of carsickness.Now, the motion sickness experiments of all medical experts in the world can not replicate the symptoms of carsickness, but can only simulate the symptoms of carsickness.Therefore, medical experts recognize that the cause of carsickness is still unknown.Drivers will not get carsick because their ears are stimulated by the low-frequency noise generated by the car engine for a long time, resulting in low-frequency hearing loss.Most cars are not that loud, so you are wrong.
But congratulations on actually thinking about it rather than just repeating the same nonsense.
You are wrong.
You can stop now.
Motion sickness is the scientific problem that the public is most concerned about.No it isn't. You are the only person I have ever heard go on about this. It is silly and a complete waste of time.
Physicists reproduced the symptoms of carsickness through this low-frequency noise experiment. Therefore, physicists announced that they had found the cause of carsicknessDo you think that actually makes sense?
Not only Chinese scientists have found that carsickness is caused by low-frequency noise, but also scientists from other countries have found that carsickness is caused by low-frequency noise.Because, until you can answer that, nobody is going to take you seriously.
This is related to people's hearing of low-frequency noise. People with good low-frequency hearing are easy to get carsick, while deaf people who can't hear low-frequency noise won't get carsick at all. For example,Drivers or aviators long-term exposure to car Low frequency noise or after repeated exposures to the flying environment.will cause a temporary neurosensory low frequency hearing loss. Therefore, the driver or aviators will not get carsickness or airsickness.Airsickness or carsickness may also occur when a previously adapted individual returns to duty after a period of non-flying.This is because low-frequency hearing has been restored.Not only Chinese scientists have found that carsickness is caused by low-frequency noise, but also scientists from other countries have found that carsickness is caused by low-frequency noise.Because, until you can answer that, nobody is going to take you seriously.
What explanation do they give for the fact that divers typically don't get sick, but passengers do?
https://www.motion-sickness-guru.com/causes-of-motion-sickness.htmlWhich shows that you do not understand the difference between evidence and anecdote, instead using the latter to justify your idiotic nonsense.
Many people in the comments of this article have proved that seasickness are caused by low-frequency noise.
Many people in the comments of this article have proved that seasickness are caused by low-frequency noise.
What explanation do they give for the fact that divers typically don't get sick, but passengers do?
Very low frequencies which are inaudible and are classed as infrasound can cause nausea and disorientation when delivered at high intensity to the body. This is caused by resonance within body cavities. This phenomenon has no connection with motion sickness(here's a clue-why is it called "motion" sickness?). Anyway since one cannot hear these frequencies, one cannot argue that these induce problems through the sense of hearing.You can't see ultraviolet rays, but ultraviolet rays can make you sick.
Did you think that was relevant?Very low frequencies which are inaudible and are classed as infrasound can cause nausea and disorientation when delivered at high intensity to the body. This is caused by resonance within body cavities. This phenomenon has no connection with motion sickness(here's a clue-why is it called "motion" sickness?). Anyway since one cannot hear these frequencies, one cannot argue that these induce problems through the sense of hearing.You can't see ultraviolet rays, but ultraviolet rays can make you sick.
through the sense of hearing.
Neither the microphones, nor the speakers in NC headphones will work a those frequencies.Your link address cannot be opened due to the blocking of China's network firewall. According to the Chinese website, this kind of Active Noise Cancellation can offset low-frequency noise, but not high-frequency noise. Carsickness is caused by low-frequency noise, so this kind of Active Noise Cancellation can avoid carsickness.
So the claim is essentially impossible.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/what-noise-cancelling-headphones-do/
According to the Chinese website, this kind of Active Noise Cancellation can offset low-frequency noise, but not high-frequency noise.It is wrong.
Carsickness is caused by low-frequency noiseNo.
The link you provided also proves that this Active Noise Cancellatio nearphone can counteract low-frequency noise, so wearing this Active Noise Cancellation earphone can avoid carsick: Generally speaking, this type of active noise cancellation is most effective on lower frequencies of sound, between 50 Hz and 1 kHz. (If you’re curious about what 1 kHz sounds like, watch this video.) This is partly because lower frequencies produce longer waveforms that are easier to line up properly. Also, at higher frequencies, if the waveforms don’t line up just right, you’re more likely to encounter feedback. So most active noise-cancelling headphones have a noticeable dip in usefulness right at the 1 kHz point. This is why ANC is better suited for reducing low, sustained sounds like those of motors and airplane engines, and it’s why such headphones can’t filter out screaming kids.According to the Chinese website, this kind of Active Noise Cancellation can offset low-frequency noise, but not high-frequency noise.It is wrong.
How could the noise cancelling work at low frequencies where the microphone and speaker do not work?
You need to stop believing everything you read, and think a bit.Carsickness is caused by low-frequency noiseNo.
Because some deaf people get carsick.
What other explanation could there be for such dogged unwillingness to accept sound scientific argument together with error repetition ad infinitum?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
I am beginning to think this could be a disguised spam attempt-to promote a particular "cure for motion sickness". What other explanation could there be for such dogged unwillingness to accept sound scientific argument together with error repetition ad infinitum?Now, all scientific papers believe that carsickness is caused by low-frequency noise, not by motion. We should believe the opinions of scientific papers, not those published in textbooks and encyclopedias that violate scientific papers. In addition, after I pointed out the error of motion sickness entry to the editorial department of Encyclopedia Britannica, the editorial department of Encyclopedia Britannica has replied me to correct the error in the next publication.
Now, all scientific papers believe that carsickness is caused by low-frequency noise, not by motion.No, they do not.
In addition, after I pointed out the error of motion sickness entry to the editorial department of Encyclopedia Britannica, the editorial department of Encyclopedia Britannica has replied me to correct the error in the next publication.Did you link to this thread?
Only experiments with low-frequency noise can replicate the symptoms of carsickness. All other experiments with motion sickness can only simulate the symptoms of carsickness, and cannot replicate the symptoms of carsickness. All scientific experiments have fully proved that low-frequency noise is the only cause of carsickness.Human beings should reflect on why a pseudoscientific theory that violates the conclusions of scientific papers can be accepted by all people.Now, all scientific papers believe that carsickness is caused by low-frequency noise, not by motion.No, they do not.
It still can't be caused by sound (of any frequency) because some deaf people get it.
Also, the driver and passengers are exposed to practically identical infrasound (They are well within 1 wavelength of each other) but have very different incidences of motion sickness.
Your idea makes no sense.
Only experiments with low-frequency noise can replicate the symptoms of carsickness.Did you know that nausea actually gets its name from sea sickness?
All scientific experiments have fully proved that low-frequency noise is the only cause of carsickness.No, because deaf people get carsick.
Many people in this article also believe that carsickness is caused by low-frequency noise.https://www.motion-sickness-guru.com/causes-of-motion-sickness.htmlOnly experiments with low-frequency noise can replicate the symptoms of carsickness.Did you know that nausea actually gets its name from sea sickness?
So, even the ancient Romans knew you are wrong.All scientific experiments have fully proved that low-frequency noise is the only cause of carsickness.No, because deaf people get carsick.
And the driver , exposed to the same infrasound, is much less susceptible than the passengers.
People get motion sickness on merry-go-rounds where there's very little infrasound.
All the day-to-day evidence still shows that you are wrong.
So does the science.
Many people in this article also believe that carsickness is caused by low-frequency noise
Now, all scientific papers believe that carsickness is caused by low-frequency noise, not by motion.Just a word of advice, saying something that is clearly not true tends to destroy your credibility, not that you currently have any in this thread.
There are over 3 different types of motion sickness.Therefore, the cause of motion sickness does not mean that it is the cause of carsickness or seasickness, just as the cause of hepatitis does not mean that it is the cause of hepatitis A or hepatitis B.Many people in this article also believe that carsickness is caused by low-frequency noise
The best you can do is a page that says
"Some researchers suggest that low frequency sounds may also play a part in causing motion sickness. They argue that the sound, as well as the vibrations, of vehicle engines and the swell of the sea may disorientate our bodies and trigger nausea. It seems to be a controversial theory, however, as other experts discount it completely."
The page also points out what is probably the best example of proof that you are wrong.
"Conversely, motion sickness can also be triggered by the eyes seeing movements, but the body feeling nothing (for example with simulators, 3D movies and IMAX shows)."
None of those would produce infrasound.
You really are very clearly wrong.
The opinions of experts and textbooks are not credible. Only the conclusions of scientific papers are credible.Who do you think the experts are?
This article introduces that many scientific papers have proved that carsickness is caused by low-frequency noise. https://stopthesethings.com/2013/09/28/sick-again-motion-sickness-sufferers-cop-it-worst-from-giant-fans/ On the contrary, you can't find a scientific paper that carsickness is caused by motion.The opinions of experts and textbooks are not credible. Only the conclusions of scientific papers are credible.Who do you think the experts are?
Who do you think writes the scientific papiers?
Did you not realise they are the same people?
But, just for a laugh... show us the scientific papers that support your view.
On the contrary, you can't find a scientific paper that carsickness is caused by motion.OK, here's a quote from that paper.
In short, we should believe the conclusions of scientific papers and not easily believe the opinions of some experts in textbooks and encyclopedias. No scientist dares to lie publicly in a scientific paper, because if other scientists cannot replicate the same results in the experiment, the scientist will be immediately disgraced. However, many experts dare to lie openly in textbooks and encyclopedias. Because the readers of these books are ordinary people, who are unable to test these opinions by experiments. The most typical is the lie of motion sickness experts about motion sickness in the British encyclopedia.Do you really not understand that the experts in book same the same people who write papers?
In addition to the low-frequency noise experiment, which can replicate the symptoms of carsickness, the experiments of other factors can only simulate motion sickness, which cannot replicate the symptoms of carsickness. Therefore, it is not the cause of carsickness.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulator_sicknessIn short, we should believe the conclusions of scientific papers and not easily believe the opinions of some experts in textbooks and encyclopedias. No scientist dares to lie publicly in a scientific paper, because if other scientists cannot replicate the same results in the experiment, the scientist will be immediately disgraced. However, many experts dare to lie openly in textbooks and encyclopedias. Because the readers of these books are ordinary people, who are unable to test these opinions by experiments. The most typical is the lie of motion sickness experts about motion sickness in the British encyclopedia.Do you really not understand that the experts in book same the same people who write papers?
Do you really not understand that the experts in book are the same people who write papers?
This problem is not important. What is important is that the opinions of experts on motion sickness in textbooks or encyclopedias violate the conclusions of all scientific papers.Do you really not understand that the experts in book are the same people who write papers?
Make up your mind.This problem is not important. What is important is that the opinions of experts on motion sickness in textbooks or encyclopedias violate the conclusions of all scientific papers.Do you really not understand that the experts in book are the same people who write papers?
What is important is that the opinions of experts on motion sickness in textbooks or encyclopedias violate the conclusions of all scientific papers.That makes no logical sense. The experts on motion sickness write the scientific papers!?! So you are saying the experts disagree with themselves. :o
I found on Google that people in one country first accidentally found that active noise reduction headphones can avoid carsickness in 2014,The article you quoted explains where noise cancelling headphones make people feel sick, not counteract carsickness. You are talking utter nonsense as ever. The only thing you appear to have proved is that you are a complete fool.
https://soundsightheadphones.com/noise-cancelling/why-anc-headphones-make-me-sick/. while Chinese people only accidentally found that active noise reduction headphones can avoid carsickness in 2015. When everyone in the world knows that as long as they wear active noise reduction headphones to offset the low-frequency noise, they will not get carsick no matter how the car moves, and after active noise reduction headphones have become an essential daily necessities for everyone when riding, everyone will know how ridiculous the theory of carsickness and the methods to avoid carsickness in textbooks and encyclopedias are.
For example, even without staying on the airplane, the noise of airplane engine can also cause symptoms of carsickness.
If everyone knows the method of active noise reduction headphones to avoid carsickness,I explained before that there are two reasons why this will never work.
This is another of these threads without hope of any degree of progress. Simply repeating the same nonsense again and again does not validate it.I agree this thread is hopeless and should be locked and allowed to fade away...
Parting comment on airsickness, however. Cabin crews report previously happy customers vomiting when the engines stop and the aircraft plunges silently earthward. QED, I think.Similar effect to the vomit comet!
We welcome new theories and ideas, especially those backed by well conducted research. However, the deliberate misquotation of articles and scientific papers is not acceptable.I found on Google that people in one country first accidentally found that active noise reduction headphones can avoid carsickness in 2014,The article you quoted explains where noise cancelling headphones make people feel sick, not counteract carsickness. You are talking utter nonsense as ever. The only thing you appear to have proved is that you are a complete fool.
https://soundsightheadphones.com/noise-cancelling/why-anc-headphones-make-me-sick/. while Chinese people only accidentally found that active noise reduction headphones can avoid carsickness in 2015. When everyone in the world knows that as long as they wear active noise reduction headphones to offset the low-frequency noise, they will not get carsick no matter how the car moves, and after active noise reduction headphones have become an essential daily necessities for everyone when riding, everyone will know how ridiculous the theory of carsickness and the methods to avoid carsickness in textbooks and encyclopedias are.