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What makes people attracted to other people based on appearence? How does a person determine what is attractive: hormones, culture, pheremones or a combination. Just an interesting topic...
NLJB
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The light behind the eyes that says "someone is home", and the smile on the face that says "and you are welcomed"
David
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Many things. nice hair, attractive smile, nice eyes, clean teeth, big ummmmmmmmmmmmmm breasts, firm bum [fanny if if your american], great legs,
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Brief answer.
Culture most certainly plays a big big part in what you determine is attractive, at the same time there is an inherent instinct that is also at work…a primitive knowledge that acts as a guide for what is pretty and what is ugly, good…bad….healthy…unhealthy !!...it is part of our primitive make-up that assists us…..the reason ?.. I suspect it’s procreation !
The differences other cultures have in what they deem attractive are many and varied…..some cultures (particularly isolated ones) prefer, what we would consider, completely unattractive physical appearance …and likewise too…….. I’m sure you’ve seen the pictures and documentaries of the physical attributes
But, you’re getting at the heart of the matter and certainly there are many aspects of ‘ attraction’ which are universal .
And there are other forms of attraction too of course, intelligence, personality…but you know that already,
But I suppose the really really short answer is that Physical Attractiveness is what you subjectively perceive to be pleasing to the eye based on what you consider to be physically pleasing...based on variables such as culture and instinct.
I suppose alternative questions may also be asked of taste and smell eh ?
So, you gonna post a piccy now ????...Yayyyy !!
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<Many things. nice hair, attractive smile, nice eyes, clean teeth, big ummmmmmmmmmmmmm breasts, firm bum [fanny if if your american], great legs,
Michael>
OK : WE DON'T SAY FANNY IN AMERICA, jeez GET THE FACTS: WE JUST SAY ASS! Damn brits
"How would you live your life if no one was watching?"- One of those friggin posters
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Also symmetry or more specifically asymmetry of the face and body proportions based on the golden ratio is important.. The more distorted the proportions are from the norm the more "ugly" someone is seen to be. Anything else is down to personal preference which is going to be specific to the social development of each individual. I don’t think it’s at all hard wired in, like preferring a certain hair colour etc. I bet that’s probably driven by the media now…
Lies Americans say "fanny pack" instead of bum bag! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanny
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HANG ON !!...Fanny is in old english slang....Pu_ssy !!
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God fanny packs went out in the friggin 80's or was it 90's? hmmmm...Well all that matters is NO ONE SAYS FANNY ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND NO ONE WEARS FANNY PACKS.
-"science |?s??ns| noun the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment"- the dictionary
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hahahaha someone mentioning fanny packs makes me piss myself laughing [:D]
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Come on Nina get with the time's darling.
Just like the mini skirt made a triumphant return ,now the word fanny is back in vogue.
My daughter was watching the TV program America's next top model and i heard them using the word while talking
about a models bum. [:)]
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GOD, DON'T TRY TO PRETEND YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT AMERICAN CULTURE IF YOU DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I'm telling you no one says fanny! There all P*icks on that show: thats the only reason they say fanny....I refuse to continue this argument with someone who obviously underestimates the horrendously out-of-date fashion trend know spectacularly as the FANNY PACK: and that was only called the fanny pack cause there too polite to say a** like normal Americas :-P
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Quite a fanny one dont you think [:)]
Michael
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THAT IS AN ASS I TELL YOU AN ASS A-S-S NOT A FRIGGIN FANNY!!!!!!!!!! Hmm...Never in my life (I will hope) I will I see that part of Bart simpson's anatomy... OH the vulagity...any nuns on this forum? hehe
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Oh and on that show: America's next top model, it was the gay guy that said fanny.
-"science |?s??ns| noun the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment"- the dictionary
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So you watch the program do you.[:)]
I don't know what episode you watched , and we're probably a bit BEHIND you over here [:)]
but on the show i saw it was a woman.[:)]
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Actually, I don't but my niece does... YOU watch it? hmmm...anyway Like I said No one says fanny and the question I asked was more directed TO WHY people like, how did you said it:
"Many things. nice hair, attractive smile, nice eyes, clean teeth, big ummmmmmmmmmmmmm breasts, firm bum [fanny if if your american], great legs- ukmickey" OH YEAH, [;)] I remeber now! hmmm.. so what I wanted to know was WHY you find this attractive, and how much of this attractiveness is cultrural, are the cultrural factors dominate?
-"science |?s??ns| noun the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment"- the dictionary
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quote:
Originally posted by NLJB
...AMERICAN CULTURE...
American Culture. Jesus, you'll be telling me the pope's a muslim next.
Chris[;)]
"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception"
- Groucho Marx
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[:D] Come on, McDonalds, obesity, fanny packs, trashy shows, it took YEARS to build that empire!! Give us some credit...hahaha [;)]
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quote:
Originally posted by NLJB
[:D] Come on, McDonalds, obesity, fanny packs, trashy shows, it took YEARS to build that empire!! Give us some credit...hahaha [;)]
-"science |?s??ns| noun the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment"- the dictionary
Well....I'm convinced, *sigh*
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I am very persuasive...hahaha
-"science |?s??ns| noun the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment"- the dictionary
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Originally posted by NLJB
I am very persuasive...hahaha
-"science |?s??ns| noun the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment"- the dictionary
You most certainly are Dr Nina Mam.[:X]
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Thank you kindly!
-"science |?s??ns| noun the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment"- the dictionary
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Physical attraction - it all comes down to mathematics - the golden ratio.
See:
http://plus.maths.org/issue22/features/golden/
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Hmmm...that was really interesting...the golden ratio...I shall learn more about this concept!
-"science |?s??ns| noun the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment"- the dictionary
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Fairness was popular then tan. It is a matter of opinion, my cousin like fair Chinese her mum was racist. I like red heads, my mum dislikes them. Growing up in India made her like dark looks. I like very fair looks. And my own stock.
Titanscape
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I would argue that attraction is in the eye of the beholder....
And as a result it's down to each individual....
However when you look at the past- in roman times fat women were considered atractive.....
This is because it is claimed- that fat women could only be fat if they ate a lot and were therefore rich.....
So people found wealth attractive or symbols of wealth attractive.....
As today with plastic surgery.... Thin people are generally considered atractive... and they are also generally rich as they pay for it!
I would argue that the rich have the money to force opinion in their direction....
Or others who want to be rich push that opinion...
But really it is down to the individual what they find attractive....
There are again problems with people who through mental illness or social exclusion........
Homosexualality an example of social exclusion can lead people who avoid their true feelings to lead a life celibacy like kennith williams...
There are of course other examples where you open a magazine and dont find any of the women atractive- err Benny hill in 'the italian job' finds fat women attractive.... who knows why?
Really I find, as many of my friends do- almost all women attractive... black, white, fat, thin, tall, short... There female.lol
But I need more than just psyical attraction...
I dont know that there is a set or standard rule when it comes to what people like. It is in the end down to them.....
With regards to metal health some people find the dead attractive... or rings... or sheep... or trees... there was this guy in the paper who used to play with his car down the woods.lol
But these really are a simptoms of some mental health problem.... maybe brain damage or the kid was raised by sheep who knows...lol
Its not till you talk to them about why they find that stuff attractive you can being to understand where it comes from.
So really it is down to you, dont rely on mags you need to think for yourself, and follow your own feelings. I mean if you find someone attractive and all your friends think she is ugly....
What you gonna do? Do you live for them or yourself?
Sadly many people will reject the person they like due to- social presures.
The Earl that wont marry his maid... Or the politician that wont come out the closit.... or the guy who wont go out with her coz she's poor.... or comes from a bad family... or she not jewish or muslim, or christian etc etc.... sad really!
to repeat- So people found wealth attractive or symbols of wealth attractive..... In this situation if someone go's for a symbol then what are they really going for- certainly not the person... and eventually that relationship will fall apart!
I suppose what I'm getting at there is that if you allow the concerns of others to affect your decision about who you are with... then really the person you end up with is not the person you really want to be with.
Sadly in todays world its all about image, and not feelings! If you put others opinions before yourself when it comes to love, your going now where but to a place of either sadness or a little not that happy contentment- an its my lot attitude- its not great but I can live with it!
Why settle for that- Live for yourself and go find someone you like! and can actually be happy with!
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Nice Post Jolly!
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thankyou lady
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Your welcome Jolly. I think it was nice.
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As an extencion:- I have really only covered the social and psycological area of attraction:
But obviously feramones, and body shape are important- you know the genitic area of attraction-
I think feramones realeased give off indicators of immune system strenght- cant remember where I heard that!
A Six pack relates to verility cant remember how though!
Hips in girls relates to sutibility for carring children!
Errm but really they are add-ons to what draws you to the person in the first place-
Not the starting point afterall you dont smell the person till your up close and you normally see a guys six pack under his shirt-
Men normally see the face first, well depends on the man.lol
Who knows dont forget the spritual side of attraction!
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I have never been attracted to a body with the exception of what I see when I look into someones eyes.. It is always the eyes where I see what draws me initially along with what they think how they think That is Ultimately the whole thing for me.. Humor fun.. smart funny shy, someone who can give me a run for my money when it comes to talking and a good listner, I have never had that. someone genuinely interested in how I think or even why I think! LOL
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You need a shrink karen they love all that stuff..lol
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Why do they call em shrinks? [???]
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Because people go in a bit upset but o.k.....
And come out
About 3ft shorter and a bit robotic!
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OH NO......Does that mean I used to be 8 ft tall!! CRUD!!! I should have never went in.....LOL
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But obviously feramones, and body shape are important- you know the genitic area of attraction-
A Six pack relates to verility cant remember how though!
Hips in girls relates to sutibility for carring children!
I don't think a six pack has anything to do with attraction. Personally I find them disgusting!
Women look for men with broad shoulders a sign of protection and a strong hunter. Men on the other hand to look for wider hips, as this means that birthing a child will be easier.
That is the basic caveman attraction guideline. Of course now, there are many more social stigmas with attraction. And because of this it makes it hard to distinguish what people are attracted to.
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Well if you want a caveman- thats your business!
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I agree with the six pack.. I do not give a darn weather a guy has a six pack..LOL I think the term is stupid..LOL A guy who is funny kind sweet has feelings is not embarrassed by his own emotions and who likes me equally as well.Yes that sounds like a good start! LOL
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Well some women do like them!
As I said before it's down to you what you like!
and elegantlywasted:
"Women look for men with broad shoulders a sign of protection and a strong hunter."
A man told you this right?
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Well some women do like them!
As I said before it's down to you what you like!
and elegantlywasted:
"Women look for men with broad shoulders a sign of protection and a strong hunter."
A man told you this right?
Actually no, a textbook written by a woman did. It is the same logic behind men looking for a woman who can bear him lots of children, and have ease doing it (ie. broad hips)
And again back to the six packs. If we are discussing what women inherently find attractive, a six pack is not one of them. Even by saying your self that some women like them negates your point that they are important to attractiveness.
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Yes I agree with that. A lot of women are attracted by that as are men to women built like Godesses..but then that would depend on what you deem to be a Godess! LOL
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Meh, too many people in my school depend on looks in a relationship. Maybe that's why i don't have a g/f...
Doesn't matter. I prefer personality, personally.
Oooh, an alliteration.
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People are attracted by different things..
I may be initially attracted by mind eyes etc, but I can also appreciate the broad shoulders and strong arms and such also.. it is just not what I would use to find my perfect someone if I were looking which I am not!!!
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Meh, too many people in my school depend on looks in a relationship. Maybe that's why i don't have a g/f...
Doesn't matter. I prefer personality, personally.
Oooh, an alliteration.
Good for you!! Wise decision.. The right person/girl will come along one day!
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What if i don't want a girl?
Or guy, mine you.
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What I am speaking of is not a conscience decision as to what we find attractive!!! It is simply something that is ingrained in us.
We don't sit on a patio somewhere watching hotties walk by saying "oooh look at the shoulders on that one, I bet he could kill me a boar and build me a rockin' shelter."
And men, well I think, don't sit on that same patio watching the ladies saying, Wow!! Those are some child rearing hips.
It's a Darwinian sort of thing. Of course with all evolution comes an evolution in ideals. Studies have shown that younger women (20-40) prefer a more feminine physique on a man, while older women (40+) prefer a more rugged manly look (broad shoulders, strong jaw).
Call me crazy but I would take George Clooney over Brad Pitt any day!!
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Actually no, a textbook written by a woman did. It is the same logic behind men looking for a woman who can bear him lots of children, and have ease doing it (ie. broad hips)
And again back to the six packs. If we are discussing what women inherently find attractive, a six pack is not one of them.
Well I do not think that women find anything inherently attractive.... maybe winkies.lol
But really I mean if your gay? what women has a winkie? or broad shoulders and good hunting skills?
Whats your field elegantlywasted?
Actually no, a textbook written by a woman did.
I'm sure a man told her!!!!
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What if i don't want a girl?
Or guy, mine you.
Is there an alternative I don't know about, besides a girl and a guy and celibacy?
You are Ultimately the only one who knows your own sexual orientation, that is not for anyone else to pass judgement on.. to each his own. Love is love no matter what your orientation.
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Whats your field elegantlywasted?
I am a student.
As for homosexuality, scientifically speaking, it is still a bit of an anomoly. Kinsey did some great research in the field but did not focus on why people did or were attracted to what they were attracted to.
But really I mean if your gay? what women has a winkie? or broad shoulders and good hunting skills?
My friends and I were discussing this yesterday. A friend of ours, a lesbian, introduced one of us to her new girlfriend. And this new girlfriend looked very masculine. Excuse my crudeness but she was butch. This raised the question, why be a lesbian if you are still attracted to a masculine physique?
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Well shes your friend ask her!
"I am a student"- of what if you dont mind telling us?
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I have taken a year of Pre-Health sciences, which is Pre-Med for all of you non Canadians. Within that year I studied human sexuality, human growth and development, as well as anatomy and physiology. I am currently enrolled in a photography and film studies program.
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Hey, man my connections could help out on your date if you ask her out!
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Well Rosy's not interested- What do you think wasted Do you like line dancing?
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Is that question directed at me?
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I believe it was!!! LOL
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Well, I thought we were discussing what people find physically attractive, but yes I do like line dancing.
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Really?
Do you also like cheese, go karting and shooting cats?
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Umm no, yes, and definalty not...as for linedancing yes, my friends and I occasionally take lessons on wednesdays, and thursday night is usually spent at a local country bar.
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Well it's 2 out of four. I mean Rosy was terrible but you maybe the one for me [::)]
I think you'll like me I look like Big Foot!
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Ele Please relax I am Joking!
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i think you are attracted to what you are programmed to consider healthy and strong. the whole point is reproduction right? makes sense to want to produce healthy kids
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Thank you kadie... that was my point!!! [:)] Glad somebody got it
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It depends upon what you regard as 'healthy and strong'. Social status is as much a relevant attractant as physiological health (rich men and politicians have no trouble finding someone to sleep with, no matter what their health situation - although it might be argued that physical health might also contribute to the development of social status, but there is not an exact correlation).
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Well you might consider yourself to be a simple game theory, gene robot, who is clearly programmed to find centain things attractive!
I do not consider that to be a reality!
You are free to find anything attractive, and while there are certainly genetic areas for attraction, personality, social constructs, beer, and many other things contribute!
At the end of the day you could like someone who go's against all your genetic belifs- Look at Danny Devito the guys a stud!
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Hi Jolly!
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At the end of the day you could like someone who go's against all your genetic belifs- Look at Danny Devito the guys a stud!
Not sure where this information comes from. He seems to have only been married once (and still married), and does not seem (as far as I can ascertain) to have had a long list of girlfriends.
That having been said, I am sure that is his choice, rather than a choice forced upon him; since I am sure he has more than enough money and status to be able to attract as many girls as he chooses.
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At the end of the day you could like someone who go's against all your genetic belifs- Look at Danny Devito the guys a stud!
Not sure where this information comes from. He seems to have only been married once (and still married), and does not seem (as far as I can ascertain) to have had a long list of girlfriends.
That having been said, I am sure that is his choice, rather than a choice forced upon him; since I am sure he has more than enough money and status to be able to attract as many girls as he chooses.
DeVito is married to actress Rhea Perlman, with whom he has three children. I think, he may actually love the woman!
Money and status are one thing, but he does not need them to attract women, if he has already found "the one".
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i think you just have to follow your intuition when you are looking for someone. whether we know it or not, we all know what we want!
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i think you just have to follow your intuition when you are looking for someone. whether we know it or not, we all know what we want!
Maybe that is why I have remained single - I never trust my instincts - and the few occasions I have followed them, I found them seriously wanting in judgement.
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sometimes you get hurt. but you never know if it's the right person unless you try, right?
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Maybe that is why I have remained single - I never trust my instincts - and the few occasions I have followed them, I found them seriously wanting in judgement.
I go for looks, i don't care about personality or intellect. As long as she stands out in the crowd that's fine by me. Well, until she starts trying to get me to watch soap opera's!!! then it's time to move on.
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but wouldn't standing out in a crowd be a personality thing?
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A friend of ours, a lesbian, introduced one of us to her new girlfriend. And this new girlfriend looked very masculine. Excuse my crudeness but she was butch. This raised the question, why be a lesbian if you are still attracted to a masculine physique?
What is meant in this case by saying she is a lesbian?
Do you mean that she was generally attracted to women, or that she was in this case attracted to this woman?
Was she maybe bi?
Alternatively, did she have a problem with men in some other way - liked someone who looked a bit masculine, but could not get on with men is some way other than appearance?
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but wouldn't standing out in a crowd be a personality thing?
No. if she is just stood there, on your arm how would anyone know her personality? They would only know that she looked good! [;)]
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I go for looks, i don't care about personality or intellect. As long as she stands out in the crowd that's fine by me.
This, to be honest, given what you said about food and visual appeal, does not surprise me at all. You are clearly strongly affected by visual appeal.
There is only one aspect of visual appeal that realy has a significant impact on me and that is rithym - this applies also to rithym of voice, but also to rithym of movement.
But, to be fair, I find that the things that attract me to a woman when I first meet her will bore me by the time I get to know her - by then, I had better be able to find something more to hold my interest.
I also sometimes am actually wary of girls who are too attractive - I often take the view that if they are that good looking they have never really had to work at a relationship, or at much else, because they will just have men falling over themselves to do everything for her. That kind of woman really is someone I would rather stay away from.
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No. if she is just stood there, on your arm how would anyone know her personality? They would only know that she looked good! [;)]
Sorry, I cannot really regard a woman (or anybody else) as just a bit of jewelry - but then, I don't go much for jewelry anyway.
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sometimes you get hurt. but you never know if it's the right person unless you try, right?
You can lose a lot of good friends that way - women who feel safe with you because they believe you are not interested in them romantically.
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oops i read that wrong paul. i thought you also said you didn't care about looks. lol... at least i can type today
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i don't know. i was that girl once but after my friend brought it up we remained friends. he's actually one of my best friends now because he was honest with me.
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then again i was honest right back. that's where people get all mixed up
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This, to be honest, given what you said about food and visual appeal, does not surprise me at all. You are clearly strongly affected by visual appeal.
Too a tee, to such an extent that last year i redecorated my lounge 5 times. Not that it was grotty, i just did not like it once it was finished.
But, to be fair, I find that the things that attract me to a woman when I first meet her will bore me by the time I get to know her - by then, I had better be able to find something more to hold my interest.
This is true, when looks are important.
I also sometimes am actually wary of girls who are too attractive - I often take the view that if they are that good looking they have never really had to work at a relationship, or at much else, because they will just have men falling over themselves to do everything for her. That kind of woman really is someone I would rather stay away from.
There is a fine line there, i think those that are too attractive have more invested in themselves to realy need anyone else. There are also the most shallow, and ones you get bored with quicker.
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LOL Ohhh I must be the girl for you George! LOL LOL.. Just teasing.. I have found this conversation quite interesting to say the least! LOL
That sounds like me George .. Always redoing everything till I have it the way I like it! LOL
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although nobody should listen to me. i'm single too. lol
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You have some very nice ideas and lovely qualities young lady!
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and paul, next time you feel like decorating please feel free to make a quick trip across the ocean and stop by. i don't have time to figure out what i want to do in here!
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thanks karen... now find a nice, attractive mid to late twenties or early thirties-ish guy and tell him that for me!
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and paul, next time you feel like decorating please feel free to make a quick trip across the ocean and stop by. i don't have time to figure out what i want to do in here!
I truely detest decorating, but i just can't pick the right colours! So, i just start all over again.
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remind me sunday when i get my camera back to send you a picture to show them, too. i'm actually pretty cute too! lol
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ok i can do colors... i'm good with colors. i just can't find stuff! together we might get it right!
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remind me sunday when i get my camera back to send you a picture to show them, too. i'm actually pretty cute too! lol
are you talking to me?.....guessed not, just hoping for a picture!
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that sounded conceited. i'm not. but i just... well i know i'm attractive. lol. it's the other areas i have low self esteem in
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i was talking to karen, but maybe i'll just post it on the pictures of ourselves thingy.
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I would love to see your Pictures! LOL
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i think you just have to follow your intuition when you are looking for someone. whether we know it or not, we all know what we want!
Maybe that is why I have remained single - I never trust my instincts - and the few occasions I have followed them, I found them seriously wanting in judgement.
Blame the beer....
but wouldn't standing out in a crowd be a personality thing?
No. if she is just stood there, on your arm how would anyone know her personality? They would only know that she looked good! [;)]
Sounds like you want a virgina that washes plates!
Paul: Yeah, that is what I want!
...lol
and as far as Danny Devito go's im sure he was in the 100 fit blokes list somewhere.... bet kdlynn likes him!
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i really am going to sleep after this, but i don't even know who danny devito is
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Night Kadie..Sleep well!
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Liar! just wont admit it! night sleep well!
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Liar! just wont admit it! night sleep well!
Jolly, what is going on with you and Kadie..? That seemd way inappropriate!
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nothing is going on and i think the other comment was aimed at paul's comment but either way it was inappropriate
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nothing is going on and i think the other comment was aimed at paul's comment but either way it was inappropriate
Then you are ok? I was worried. Thanks kadie..
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Hmm.. I missed the action!!!! Was it bad?
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Well it sure made me feel odd, for others.
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Hi all. [;D]
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For the most part attraction for me comes in different stages and areas not really on looks at all. Yes eyes are nice faces are all nice but build has nothing to do with it for me.. I want to know what comes from the heart and when I talk with someone if I do not feel that then I know that I could never be attracted to someone who did not firstly have a good heart!
Now I think it should all be done.. OK..
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OK.. HONESTLY coming from moi!!!
I like..
BIG B**bs.
Gorgeous face.
Massive bum.
Long hair.
Pretty.
Sexy.
S-line body.
Yes.. That is good.. Yes yes..
OK!! I was kidding. [;)]
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For the most part attraction for me comes in different stages and areas not really on looks at all. Yes eyes are nice faces are all nice but build has nothing to do with it for me.. I want to know what comes from the heart and when I talk with someone if I do not feel that then I know that I could never be attracted to someone who did not firstly have a good heart!
Now I think it should all be done.. OK..
But Karen, when you are first meeting someone, or in the first few day or weeks of a relationship you are always on your best behaviour. Say and do the right things, pit the toilet seat down.....
It's only later that the real person shows, unless they are a complete buffoon and act like it from day 1.
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Actually... Well I guess that the appearence is good for the first time attraction. If your beautiful, then people would be more attracted to you, until they realise the true you, with personality.. If your personality is good, they will stay. If it is bad, they will go away.
So appearence only attracts someone first time, then it is the personality which takes over. Appearence is only for a short-time period, and personality and other features are a long-time..
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For the most part attraction for me comes in different stages and areas not really on looks at all. Yes eyes are nice faces are all nice but build has nothing to do with it for me.. I want to know what comes from the heart and when I talk with someone if I do not feel that then I know that I could never be attracted to someone who did not firstly have a good heart!
Now I think it should all be done.. OK..
But Karen, when you are first meeting someone, or in the first few day or weeks of a relationship you are always on your best behavior. Say and do the right things, pit the toilet seat down.....
It's only later that the real person shows, unless they are a complete buffoon and act like it from day 1.
I know people are different after you get to know them that is what I like about meeting people we are all like that! LOL It's great! I always see the side they want, but I have a way of seeing the other side too. just by talking with people if you are observent and a good listener you learn a great deal about people that they don't say.
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It is about what they say and their eyes for me in initail attraction when meeting someone in person. Otherwise it is conversation and heart I feel when talking to someone like you!
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Yes.. And not the massive bosoms.. [:-\]
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Seany you are certainly Welcome to your own attractions, lOL I think I will stick to eyes etc.LOL
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LOL.. OK. I'll stick with the long blonde hair. [;D] LOL!
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There you go!LOL LOL
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LOL.. [;D] Mehh........ I'm so bored. [;D]
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Sorry Me is a boring gal!! You need to find something to do that keeps your mind active.
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Oic. It's not you who is boring me.. Without you, I'd have died of boredom ages ago! You're the only one online at the moment LOL
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Oh I had not noticed it happens like that all the time I get used to it so I don't pay attention anymore.LOL
Glad i ma not boring you.. I know I do others..LOL oh well.
Meet any nice young ladies Seany?
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What.. nice as in hawt ^^ ? LOL
You (Karen)
Carolyn
Kadie
Lo
Sorry if I missed out anyone.. Blank on the top of ma head!
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Awwwww, you're such a charmer Seany! [:)]
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LOL. Tankz yoo *blushes*
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You're welcome!
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What.. nice as in hawt ^^ ? LOL
You (Karen)
Carolyn
Kadie
Lo
Sorry if I missed out anyone.. Blank on the top of ma head!
I was talking about your own age,..but thanks..LOL
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Hi Carolyn!
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Hiya Karen!
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Are you having a good day?
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Are you having a good day?
I suppose. Just returned a little while ago from the funeral and I'm really tired. Thinking seriously about a nap, but I'm sure about the time I fall asleep, my parents will return.
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I am glad your parents made it safely. I hope you are well. keep your chin up Carolyn thats what she would have wanted too!
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What.. nice as in hawt ^^ ? LOL
You (Karen)
Carolyn
Kadie
Lo
Sorry if I missed out anyone.. Blank on the top of ma head!
I was talking about your own age,..but thanks..LOL
My own age, girls, in this forum?? You must be joking..
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I was talking about school and socially! LOL
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Oh.. Nice girls at this school.. None I fancy though, LOL!
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Well one day you will find the perfect someone!
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LOL. Thanks [;D]
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Your welcome.. Go eat your dinner young man..LOL
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LOL.. Ok.. Not that hungry though!
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Well I am.. LOL I will eat too!
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Well one day you will find the perfect someone!
Perfection is impossible - in anything.
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Except in YOU! Hi, George.. Perfection is in the eye of the beholder.. and I behold perfection in YOU! :)
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Yup.. There is definite perfection in George over there. [;)]
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Yep In You TOO Seany.. I see it in people all the time..
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I agree with George, what most people deem perfect can never be. But what is perfect for one is not perfect for another.. I know for me I know what my perfect fit is not to describe it or anything like that, It is how I feel with that persons presence their sense of self and others.. I cannot explain it.I want to make someone else feel as good as they make me feel and I think when two people can do that for each other and really enjoy the give and take of that then it can be incredible and totally fulfilling and wonderful!
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Liar! just wont admit it! night sleep well!
Jolly, what is going on with you and Kadie..? That seemd way inappropriate!
please explain the inappropriateness of this post.
I think she likes danny devito- she says she doesnt know him- I think shes lying! whats the problem?
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For the most part attraction for me comes in different stages and areas not really on looks at all. Yes eyes are nice faces are all nice but build has nothing to do with it for me.. I want to know what comes from the heart and when I talk with someone if I do not feel that then I know that I could never be attracted to someone who did not firstly have a good heart!
Now I think it should all be done.. OK..
But Karen, when you are first meeting someone, or in the first few day or weeks of a relationship you are always on your best behaviour. Say and do the right things, pit the toilet seat down.....
It's only later that the real person shows, unless they are a complete buffoon and act like it from day 1.
I totally dis-agree with this type of behaviour! Why hide who you are that can only lead to problems later on...
Surely it is better to be honest and not lie.. I know its hard, and I know you dont own a jag, but seriously why lie when they find out it will always cause problems and shows a certain amount of insecurity!
People should be happy with themselves and not feel like they have to be someone else to get anywhere!
If the person doesnt want the real you then move on... Ofcourse a lot of men just want sex and therefore lie to get it and then run off!
Just thinking about 'when Harry met Sally' Theres the line he says to her:- 'after sex men just wonder how long do I have to lay here before I can leave?'
That is a total simptom of guilt- He's done all sorts of stuff to get sex and then after the fact- feels guilty and wants to run off!
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Liar! just wont admit it! night sleep well!
Jolly, what is going on with you and Kadie..? That seemed way inappropriate!
please explain the inappropriateness of this post.
I think she likes Danny devito- she says she doesn't know him- I think shes lying! whats the problem?
Jolly it is OK to think he is lying, but to call someone a liar in the forum is inappropriate . It is not for us to be calling people names in here.. I just want everyone to try to be less aggressive toward each other here in the forum... You are all welcome to opinions but if you have problems you need to deal with them privately. If that person chooses to not answer mails or messages you need to just know they do not wish to discuss it further. We cannot say derogative things about other members even if we don't agree. Those things we keep to ourselves to ensure that others feelings are not hurt .. including mine.. It is uncomfortable to here or see that on the forum. Just try to not be quite so expressive..no name calling please.. message me if you need to talk further about it!
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How anyone could be upset coz I said they were lying about fancying danny devito- I mean come on! Unless they are lying- ofcourse...lol
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I know Jolly Just try to keep it lighter in the forum for me ok!
I enjoyed your post in the beaver thread. I can't remember what the thread was called..LOL some Moderator I am.. LOL I think it was a great post. Perfect!
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Thankyou lady, Glad to help people by talking about beaver!
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i just meant it was inappropiate for him to say paul wanted a vagina that does dishes or whatever. that was mean. paul wants a nice pretty girl.
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Yes I understood that part also.. I know what Paul meant.. It was inappropriate.... I had not caughtthat part when I posted to you.. Sorry.. Thanks Kadie!
How was the wedding..? Was it beautiful..? I bet it was!
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Thankyou lady, Glad to help people by talking about beaver!
Thanks for making such a nice post!
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um... yes it was i think i'm ok now but i think i called my ex
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Is that good or bad?
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we'll find out tomorrow!
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LOL.. I hope you are ok.. Me don't drink but I hope me won't have to feel your pain tomorrow.. LOL
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i don't get hangovers. i have only ever had 2. ok i guess that's not never but still
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wait a minute paul said "who cares about her personality when shes on your arm"!!!!!!
That kinda implys he just wants somthing that looks pretty but has no personality- which is a very demeaning attitude many men have towards women.. he may have been joking but even so...
that comment is surely worse than mine- as at least I was aruging that women should be given more respect than that!
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no fighting. i love you all
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Jolly I think it was the fact that it was used as if Paul said it like a quote from "Paul.." I do however see what you mean, but do not think Paul meant it like that..
I do believe you have all talked about it already I assume so it is done.. We can move on and Like Kadie said I love you all!..
Jolly how is the weather there? Kadie How was the weather for the wedding? Was it inside or outside?
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the ceremony was outside but the reception was inside. it was beautiful
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Very Nice. I was married here at the house outside in my yard..nothing at all fancy! Simple actually!
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simple sounds nice.
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It was OK.. It was pretty, until some knot head,.. (meaning me) forgot to wrap the satin around the buckets of gladiolas..LOL
And forgot to get the cd from the music store, had to run to town just to find out they sold my cd that they were holding for me 1 hour earlier..LOL It was exasperating... I cried...LOL
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oh that's sad. i think something goes wrong with every wedding though. for example, at this one the bride's brother and the groom's sister vanished... lol... 3 guesses where they were
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In the broom closet or the back of car? LOL LOL
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the kitchen. the caterers asked them to relocate
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LOL Ain't love grand!! LOL
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the girl's daughter kept asking me where her mom was. lol.
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LOL..
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Well, look at that. No topic left? Let's make one..
...ever loved lost?
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huh?
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Hi Kadie! Hi Ben!
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huh?
I mean have you ever loved someone who left you quite abruptly.
Greetings, Karen.
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Hi Ben.
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oh. yes. but then, you heard part of that story already
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oh. yes. but then, you heard part of that story already
Eh? I'm sorry i must not have been paying attention when you told it. [:(]
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It is a hard subject to address for a lot of people for a lot of reasons!
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Well, if it pains kdlynn to tell me, then i'm better off not knowing.
"All humans by nature desire knowledge."
---Some dead, influential guy.
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I think if you go back and read her thread you might find it!
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we'll put it this way ben... if you decide to move to new jersey when you live with your fiance and break up with her, you're a jerk. if she then finds out she's pregnant and you still leave and have her move all of her stuff out by herself, you're a bigger jerk. and if she has a miscarriage and calls you to tell you you're not gonna be a daddy after all, don't exhale a big sigh of relief in her ear and ask her why she's crying. cuz that makes you something i can't say on
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oh and if you get fired from your dream job in jersey a month later, don't expect her to feel bad for you
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Well, i'm sorry that happened to you kdlynn. If i did that and then realized what i did, i would kick myself for the rest of my life because i would realize that no amount of "sorrys" could fix that. [:-'(] [:-'(]
Okay, that jerks tastin my connections. *pulls out cell phone.* [:(!] [:(!]
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hey it's ok. i really have been trying to let it go. just proves that he wasn't right for me after all!
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Awww... [:(] But I will not feel sorry for you, as that would not make it any better. You need to build your confidence, and me feeling sorry for you would break all that. Hope you are staying good [;)]
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hey it's ok. i really have been trying to let it go. just proves that he wasn't right for me after all!
I think that is the point - one sometimes has to learn painful lessons, but better you get to learn the lesson earlier than later.
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Hello there anyone home?
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yes i'm in the kitchen! come on in! lol
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OOOH I just finished eating Chinese food. I did something strange tonight Paul! LOL
I went to a store bought a couple things came out and put my things away . Went over to the store wall and had a nice conversation with a perfect stranger. A very young Homeless girl named Lacy, about Kadie's age. She has been traveling around has no home and likes it here, and is looking for a job. She had asked me for some change if I had it. I had 1:00 I got my purse and gave her twenty more dollars and then we went into the Chinese Restaurant and we had a lovely dinner and conversation and I said goodbye. She was such a sweet girl and very kind and beautiful young lady!
I enjoyed our conversation. I also sent her to another restaurant who was hiring, run by some lovely people I know.. I hope she gets the job, they need help!
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That's nice, Karen. you could have taken her on a picnic! [;)]
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I could not do any more walking today.. LOL my feet were balloons and were hurting real bad.. But I enjoyed it anyway!LOL
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Physical attraction - it all comes down to mathematics - the golden ratio.
See:
http://plus.maths.org/issue22/features/golden/
An extract:
I will certainly not attempt to make the ultimate sense of sex appeal in an article on the Golden Ratio. I would like to point out, however, that the human face provides us with hundreds of lengths to choose from. If you have the patience to juggle and manipulate the numbers in various ways, you are bound to come up with some ratios that are equal to the Golden Ratio.
Furthermore, I should note that the literature is bursting with false claims and misconceptions about the appearance of the Golden Ratio in the arts (e.g. in the works of Giotto, Seurat, Mondrian). The history of art has nevertheless shown that artists who have produced works of truly lasting value are precisely those who have departed from any formal canon for aesthetics. In spite of the Golden Ratio's truly amazing mathematical properties, and its propensity to pop up where least expected in natural phenomena, I believe that we should abandon its application as some sort of universal standard for "beauty," either in the human face or in the arts.
I would have thought Solvay, that you would have read this before posting it! Or did you post it as a joke?
[:D] Come on, McDonalds, obesity, fanny packs, trashy shows, it took YEARS to build that empire!! Give us some credit...hahaha [;)]
-"science |?s??ns| noun the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment"- the dictionary
Why is it that people think America has no culture? America certainly has a culture. Culture is not just Picasso etc Hamburgers are included!
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LOL..LOL.. Good day Jolly.. It appears solvays post was from 2005, I have not seen a newer one lately.. I wonder if the member is currently active?
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Never noticed, maybe it´ll inspire him to come back.
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Or her? LOL LOL.. Is is he a he.. I did not look! LOL
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I see Paul as a name so I suspect a male as you have said! LOL
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Could be paula!
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Could be paula!
Well Yes.. indeedy it could be, I had forgotten about that name! Yes quite possible then indeed! LOL
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It was/is a he as far as I know - I remember having some interesting exchanges with him - was it that long ago - it was around the time I joined the forum.
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Glad to know that then George! Time passes so quickly sometimes doesn't it!.. Hey George You registered 24 days after I did! YAYYYYYYY! We are about the same! LOL
You know I have read many posts by Solvay, but never paid attention as to weather the person was male or female! LOL Sorry Solvay!