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Some of the matter falling towards the [supermassive black] holes is converted into energy. This energy is delivered to the surrounding gas, and leads to large outflows of matter, which stretch for hundreds of thousands of light years from the black holes, reaching far beyond the extent of their host galaxies.
Astronomers have discovered a giant cosmic void that explains why our Local Group of galaxies is moving through the universe as fast as it is.
The new ALMA observations reveal long filaments of gasGalaxy filaments are larger versions of the gas filaments.The universe may have been born spinning, according to new findings on the symmetry of the cosmosIf the universe was born rotating, like a spinning basketball, Longo said, it would have a preferred axis, and galaxies would have retained that initial motion.Is the universe still spinning?"It could be," Longo said. "I think this result suggests that it is."
Since these black holes don’t know about each other, or have any way of exchanging information or influencing each other directly over such vast scales, this spin alignment must have occurred during the formation of the galaxies in the early universe
The energy described in the following article at the scale of our Universe’s super-supermassive black hole is dark energy.Black holes banish matter into cosmic voidsQuoteSome of the matter falling towards the [supermassive black] holes is converted into energy. This energy is delivered to the surrounding gas, and leads to large outflows of matter, which stretch for hundreds of thousands of light years from the black holes, reaching far beyond the extent of their host galaxies.Our visible universe is in the outflow of a super-supermassive black hole. As ordinary matter falls toward the super-supermassive black hole it evaporates into a cosmological fluid. It is the cosmological fluid outflow which pushes the galaxy clusters, causing them to move outward and away from us. The cosmological fluid outflow is dark energy.The galaxy clusters which have been pushed for longer than we have are accelerating outward and away from us. We are accelerating outward and away from the galaxy clusters which have been pushed for less time than we have. From our perspective most of the galaxy clusters are accelerating away from us.Cosmic Void “Pushes” Milky WayQuoteAstronomers have discovered a giant cosmic void that explains why our Local Group of galaxies is moving through the universe as fast as it is.The void is where the cosmological fluid is able to flow through unimpeded, pushing the Milky Way.Powerful Black Hole at Heart of Phoenix Cluster’s Central Galaxy Surprises AstronomersQuoteThe new ALMA observations reveal long filaments of gasGalaxy filaments are larger versions of the gas filaments.The universe may have been born spinning, according to new findings on the symmetry of the cosmosIf the universe was born rotating, like a spinning basketball, Longo said, it would have a preferred axis, and galaxies would have retained that initial motion.Is the universe still spinning?"It could be," Longo said. "I think this result suggests that it is."The universe has a preferred axis of rotation because our visible Universe is in the outflow of a super-supermassive black hole.Astronomers in South Africa discover mysterious alignment of black holesQuoteSince these black holes don’t know about each other, or have any way of exchanging information or influencing each other directly over such vast scales, this spin alignment must have occurred during the formation of the galaxies in the early universeThe reason for the alignment is due to the galaxies being in the outflow of a super-supermassive black hole.Dark flow may be related to the motion along the axis associated with the Universal outflow we exist in.
I don't believe the universe is a true black hole. Yes, there are similarities between the structure of a universe and a black hole, but I don't take it literally, because it breaks the principle of closed systems. The universe, is a closed system, nothing is leaving it, in other words, nothing is flowing into and out of a universe to conserve information. A big problem with the early models is that classical theory predicts that for a system to change internal energy, required there is some heat flow from some outside system. This is not tenable within relativity, which states the universe is all there is, and is closed and self-contained. Instead, we find, in the invention of field theory, that maybe energy can vary in space, more preferably, curved spacetimes where not only the production of particles can happen in irreversible ways, but also the forth power over the momenta of virtual particles in not necessarily zero. This means interesting things can happen early on when the universe was young and curvature-dominated.
The article you linked to was very unclear. What do you mean by ''outflow?''You say the visible/observable universe is in the ''outflow'' of a black hole - this statement makes little sense to me. How is the observable universe influenced in this way, assuming now you don't mean the universe is a black hole?I can't visually accept or make a plausible physical picture in my mind, what is being discussed here.
If this is some dynamic process linked to supermassive black holes at the cores of galaxies, another question would be, what about galaxies that do not have a supermassive black hole at their centre? There are a few we know about.
There is evidence however, from galaxies that have lost their supermassive black holes, tend to fall apart due to their own centrifugal forces (galaxies spin after all). What seems apparent, especially for simple disk galaxies like our own, that the supermassive black hole may contribute all, if not nearly all the gravitational binding of the galaxy.
Quote from: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 00:02:15If this is some dynamic process linked to supermassive black holes at the cores of galaxies, another question would be, what about galaxies that do not have a supermassive black hole at their centre? There are a few we know about.This is not some dynamic process linked to supermassive black holes at the cores of galaxies. This is our Universe's super-supermassive black hole.
So what you are saying, is that the universe has some kind of analogous black hole from which everything came from(?) and that from which everything flows from (inside) of the universe? Do I have any of that right?If so, this model does not appeal to me, because supermassive black holes are large enough, you want a mother black hole to explain expansion in the universe (that the observable universe is an outflow) of some kind. That doesn't agree with what we actually observe - does it? If something flows, it means it is following a common direction, that we would be able to distinguish in the motion of galaxies. There is a common motion in galaxies, called dark flow, at an angle that could only really satisfy a rotating model for a universe. None of it is very appealing. It seems to complicate the universe, by suggesting the visible universe is the outflow of matter from some mother sized black hole - and there doesn't seem to be any way to falsify it either.
The universe is homogeneous, possessing a dark flow, which would be at an angle suggesting a universe rotation.
Quote from: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 00:33:52The universe is homogeneous, possessing a dark flow, which would be at an angle suggesting a universe rotation.The Universe rotates because the Universal black hole is powering it, and the outflow we exist in. Galaxies rotate. Our Universe rotates. Galaxies rotate based upon the supermassive black hole at their center causes it to rotate. Our Universe rotates based upon the super-supermassive black hole at the center of our Universe causing it to rotate.
Sorry if this seems like an appeal to authority but it isn't really, its an appeal to the scientific method:Einstein said ''a theory should be simple and no simpler.''This is true. To suggest there is a black hole that is responsible for a universal rotation and is responsible for the expansion of space as an ''outflow'', is superfluous. Since there is zero evidence for such a gargantuan black hole anywhere in the universe and also based on the fact we don't need to explain universal expansion or rotation in such a way, it seems like these speculations are complicating the universe in severe ways.
Quote from: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 00:48:57Sorry if this seems like an appeal to authority but it isn't really, its an appeal to the scientific method:Einstein said ''a theory should be simple and no simpler.''This is true. To suggest there is a black hole that is responsible for a universal rotation and is responsible for the expansion of space as an ''outflow'', is superfluous. Since there is zero evidence for such a gargantuan black hole anywhere in the universe and also based on the fact we don't need to explain universal expansion or rotation in such a way, it seems like these speculations are complicating the universe in severe ways.Q. What causes the dark flow? What causes the Universe to have a preferred axis of rotation?A. The Universal black hole.Dark flow and the Universe having a preferred axis of rotation is evidence of the Universal black hole.
it has a dipole and so suggests it prefers one hand over another, matter over antimatter.
You ask the questions in A) and then suppose B) (the black hole) is a good solution. I assure you it isn't. Rotation isn't produced by anything, it is part of the equations of motion which describes the universe, as I have shown in the OP. Rotation, when it enters the Godel, or the better one, for the expanding model, the Friedmann equation, rotation becomes intrinsic to the universe, there is no need to explain it in terms of some absurdly large black hole, or by explaining anything as an outflow of anything.
Quote from: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 00:57:25it has a dipole and so suggests it prefers one hand over another, matter over antimatter. Why does it prefer one over another?QuoteYou ask the questions in A) and then suppose B) (the black hole) is a good solution. I assure you it isn't. Rotation isn't produced by anything, it is part of the equations of motion which describes the universe, as I have shown in the OP. Rotation, when it enters the Godel, or the better one, for the expanding model, the Friedmann equation, rotation becomes intrinsic to the universe, there is no need to explain it in terms of some absurdly large black hole, or by explaining anything as an outflow of anything.intrinsic = it's magic!It's your question and your thread and I will leave you to it. If you ever care to understand why there is a dark flow and why the Universe has a preferred axis of rotation it is due to the Universal black hole powering the outflow we exist in.
Well, look. If I wanted to find some dynamic way to explain how rotation may even appear in a universe, I wouldn't think about it in terms of another supermassive black hole. Again, that just complicates things. Radically wild, and not even wrong (as in, cannot be disproven).