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Non Life Sciences => Physics, Astronomy & Cosmology => Topic started by: Joe L. Ogan on 05/02/2010 23:25:07

Title: The Big Bang Theory has been discredited and the Red Shift theory is wrong?
Post by: Joe L. Ogan on 05/02/2010 23:25:07
If the Big Bang Theory and the Red Shift system have been discredited, is it time for scientists to rethink theories that they have accepted?  Thanks for comments.  Joe L. Ogan
Title: The Big Bang Theory has been discredited and the Red Shift theory is wrong?
Post by: PhysBang on 05/02/2010 23:48:38
Yes, if that happened, then yes. But it hasn't happened. Not by a long shot. Indeed, if someone tells you that it has happened, that's a good symptom by which to tell not to trust such a person.
Title: The Big Bang Theory has been discredited and the Red Shift theory is wrong?
Post by: Joe L. Ogan on 06/02/2010 00:08:43
Yes, if that happened, then yes. But it hasn't happened. Not by a long shot. Indeed, if someone tells you that it has happened, that's a good symptom by which to tell not to trust such a person.

How long has it been you checked this out?  Some rather reputable people have suggested that the Big Bang is wrong and the Red Shift measurement is faulty.  I have no fixed opinion but I am questioning current knowledge.  Thanks for comments.  Joe L. Ogan
Title: The Big Bang Theory has been discredited and the Red Shift theory is wrong?
Post by: Geezer on 06/02/2010 04:24:20
Joe: In the past, many "rather reputable people" have come up with stuff that turned out to be wrong. I think it's great that people are bold enough to challenge "conventional" thinking. Without that, I don't think science would move forward.

However, until someone provides testable evidence, it is an opinion (science seems to have many different words for an opinion).
Title: The Big Bang Theory has been discredited and the Red Shift theory is wrong?
Post by: PhysBang on 06/02/2010 13:15:10
How long has it been you checked this out? 
Pretty much every day for the last decade.
Title: The Big Bang Theory has been discredited and the Red Shift theory is wrong?
Post by: Bored chemist on 06/02/2010 13:46:55
"Some rather reputable people have suggested that the Big Bang is wrong and the Red Shift measurement is faulty.  "
I believe the traditional reply is "citation needed".

In any event, if problems are found with the big bang then it's more likely that the theory will be modified, rather than slung out.
Some theories may need to be revisited but exactly which ones would depend on what had been shown to be wrong with the big bang idea,
Title: The Big Bang Theory has been discredited and the Red Shift theory is wrong?
Post by: Madidus_Scientia on 07/02/2010 09:32:23
Doesn't the wavelength of the cosmic microwave background radiation confirm the redshift measurement?
Title: The Big Bang Theory has been discredited and the Red Shift theory is wrong?
Post by: Soul Surfer on 07/02/2010 10:07:01
The current model of the early stages and subsequent evolution of our universe (rather badly named "the big bang" ) is far more than just a singe set of red shifts of galaxies and distance inferences.  It involves several sets of largely independent measurements of different types of object at different frequencies.  It also involves a consistent model  describing the quantities of elements in the universe and how they change with time, the sizes origins and and development of stars and galaxies and a great deal more besides.  It's just about as solid as it can be any different approach must cover all these aspects to gain any sort of credibility.
Title: The Big Bang Theory has been discredited and the Red Shift theory is wrong?
Post by: yor_on on 08/02/2010 10:00:10
And Wmap (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilkinson_Microwave_Anisotropy_Probe#Objectives)
Title: The Big Bang Theory has been discredited and the Red Shift theory is wrong?
Post by: PhysBang on 08/02/2010 13:54:26
And Wmap (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilkinson_Microwave_Anisotropy_Probe#Objectives)
Please, no wikipedia if it isn't necessary.

http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/