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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 27/02/2012 05:18:47 »
Hi All,

I watched a documentary last week which some of you may or may not have seen 'Fat Sick and Nearly Dead'. In it, the presenter Joe Cross has a rare auto immune disease, which he has consultated many different experts(Sound like anyone you know?). Anyway, both he and another guy in the film are both able to beat this disease, quite simply by flooding himself with Micro Nutrients (i.e. Juicing). A process he calls a 'Re-boot'.

Very inspiring film - Gonna go and get me a juicer. Thought I'd share this with you because I might even try this for POIS!!

To find out more check out...
http://www.fatsickandnearlydead.com/
http://www.jointhereboot.com

Cheers.

EDIT: I meant to say, 'he has consultated many different experts but no one could really help him - so he decided to take matters into his own hands (Sound like anyone you know?)'

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 28/01/2012 12:14:27 »
Quote from: daveman on 25/01/2012 12:15:57
Quote from: POIS-SUFFERER on 24/01/2012 22:01:25
I find the Niacinamide works for me very well and this is comes without much of a flush, sometimes I feel a small one, but then again I take 1000mg... this almost gets rid of the brain fog and flu..... BUT!!!!! I need to find something to help with the DRIVE.... I have no drive, I just want to sit and do nothing, I have no enthusiasm at all.... I am self employed, I have a line up of paying contracts, I am totally out of money, so you would think you could work at these paying contracts..... nope, I can not find any motivation to do almost anything..... its very bad.....

I have been reading this forum and have not noted much about fixing this part of the problem.

PS.

Interesting, niacin, at least for me, also fixed the drive. I've got lots of it. I don't know if that might be a difference between niacinimide and niacin or not. Also look at boosting with vitamin C and iron! See if that helps.

BTW when do you take your niacinamide, one hour before as well? Did you start out with 1000mg or less, and did you try with niacin before, if so what was your dose with that (as a reference)?.


Hey Guys, Just wanted to add, Niacin for me seems to work mainly for my brainfog. I don't feel anywhere near as cloudy in the head. I remember when I hadn't found out about Niacin, after O  I could lie there and literally wait and feel the 'cloudiness' enter my brain.

Drive on the other hand, and energy for that matter is a completely different story. Niacin certainly helps, because my mind is clearer (though not 100%) and can 'push through' a task if absolutely necessary but it is hard going.  I also still get the lower back pain with Niacin....

POIS-SUFFERER - Please let us know how the Vitamin C and Iron goes for you....I might try that as well...........

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 27/01/2012 14:22:07 »
Quote from: daveman on 26/01/2012 15:26:48
Quote from: jivetalk on 26/01/2012 14:40:50
Quote from: daveman on 26/01/2012 11:13:45
First, If I take a multi-vitamin with "the works", it makes me worse, often much worse.

Daveman, I found the exact Same thing years ago when I was just randomly taking vitamins for POIS (which I didn't know was POIS at the time). I ended up feeling absolutely terrible.

Re: Haven't posted in awhile so wanted to give a quick update on my Niacin. I am continually taking Niacin before O (300mg) and am finding it still beneficial, usually roughly in the order of 70-80% plus or minus 20% - Meaning sometimes it can be less, and sometimes can be close to 100% effective.


Has 300 mg been pretty normal for you. And that gives you a moderate flush?

Each one seems to have their levels, and the flush is sort of the guideline. 300 would have me pretty fried!  :P


Hey Daveman, funny you should mention this. I have been taking 300mg for this whole bottle. Then just yesterday I opened a new bottle, same brand.......300mg had me fired like a lobster. So...I'm guessing the initial batch I got wasn't great.....not sure of the reason......Going to try to cut the dosage down to 100mg or 200mg and see how I go.

I am very wary though....I O'ed without Niacin a few weeks back and........It took me a good 2-3 weeks to recover from that completely.

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 26/01/2012 14:40:50 »
Quote from: daveman on 26/01/2012 11:13:45
First, If I take a multi-vitamin with "the works", it makes me worse, often much worse.

Daveman, I found the exact Same thing years ago when I was just randomly taking vitamins for POIS (which I didn't know was POIS at the time). I ended up feeling absolutely terrible.

Re: Haven't posted in awhile so wanted to give a quick update on my Niacin. I am continually taking Niacin before O (300mg) and am finding it still beneficial, usually roughly in the order of 70-80% plus or minus 20% - Meaning sometimes it can be less, and sometimes can be close to 100% effective.

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 19/08/2011 13:45:55 »
Quote from: hurray on 18/08/2011 05:03:16
I was a little reluctant to post with incomplete results, but I have tried niacin (250mg) before O twice now, and it does a lot to alleviate my symptoms. For now, the 250mg seems to be enough to give me the flush. I would say that compared to nothing, it reduces my symptoms (mostly cognitive brain fog) by about 60-70%.

So far I have only tried it on its own - normally, I would take a dose of fenugreek before and after O. It will be interesting to try niacin in combination with fenugreek, and I will do this at some point, but I thought it would be more "scientific" to let niacin do its work without any assistance.

So, mark up another success for niacin! I hope it proves effective in the long-term as well as the short-term.

Congratulations Hurray!

Thanks for letting us all know about your positive results. Please do keep us posted.

JT.

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 09/08/2011 07:13:08 »
Quote from: victor.kons on 09/08/2011 06:11:21
Quote from: jivetalk on 09/08/2011 04:49:19
Quote from: victor.kons on 09/08/2011 03:45:03
Quote from: Kingkong on 09/08/2011 01:48:45
I'M reading each of you since almost 2 1/2 years from now. I'M 51 years old and I'M a pois sufferer since 12 years now. But like some of you, I tried NIACIN recently and the result are very very good for me.

1) The day of O, I'M taking 300 mg 30 minutes before O.
2) If I don't sleep about one hour after O, I'M 50-60% POIS free, IF I sleep for maximum 1 hour after O' when I wake up, Im 90% free.
3) The day after O (day 1), I'm taking 100 mg when I wake up in the morning. During the day, I take other 100 mg when I feel that POIS is coming back. I can take maximum 900 mg the day of O and maximum 500 mg the day after.
4) Day 2, I'M taking 100 mg in the morning, an another 100 mg in the afternoon and I'M still 90 % POIS free.
5) Day 3, 100 mg and I'M 95% POIS free.
6) DAy 4, 100 mg, 100% POIS free.
I must say that I'M very happy whith this result and my girl friend too!

Demografx, I didn't receive your mail that every one must receive from you. Tank you.
Hi Kingkong,

Thank you for your report! I'm glad that Niacin helps you too.

From what you write it looks like you are taking too much Niacin after O, whereas the point is to take the minimum _necessary_ dose of Niacin _prior_ to O so that you don't have to take any Niacin after O, because taking Niacin after O has far less effect. You said that you wait 30 minutes, sounds like too short time before O. After taking niacin pills we usually wait 60 minutes, you should feel the flush and let it starting go away before you have the O.

Victor

Hi Victor, As you know I've been taking 300mg for a little while now - and I can barely feel the Flush anymore if I take it at night (after dinner). (I can feel it if I take it on an empty stomach in the morning)

When you take 150mg especially after food - Do you still feel the Flush at all? or do you Just time it, and ensure that you O at least 60 minutes after Niacin?
I still feel some flush, but it is much less stronger than before. And I ensure that I have first O at least 60 minutes after Niacin.

Victor

Thanks Victor

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 09/08/2011 05:47:47 »
Quote from: Kingkong on 09/08/2011 05:03:26
Quote from: jivetalk on 09/08/2011 04:44:30
Quote from: Kingkong on 09/08/2011 01:48:45
I'M reading each of you since almost 2 1/2 years from now. I'M 51 years old and I'M a pois sufferer since 12 years now. But like some of you, I tried NIACIN recently and the result are very very good for me.

1) The day of O, I'M taking 300 mg 30 minutes before O.
2) If I don't sleep about one hour after O, I'M 50-60% POIS free, IF I sleep for maximum 1 hour after O' when I wake up, Im 90% free.
3) The day after O (day 1), I'm taking 100 mg when I wake up in the morning. During the day, I take other 100 mg when I feel that POIS is coming back. I can take maximum 900 mg the day of O and maximum 500 mg the day after.
4) Day 2, I'M taking 100 mg in the morning, an another 100 mg in the afternoon and I'M still 90 % POIS free.
5) Day 3, 100 mg and I'M 95% POIS free.
6) DAy 4, 100 mg, 100% POIS free.
I must say that I'M very happy whith this result and my girl friend too!

Demografx, I didn't receive your mail that every one must receive from you. Tank you.

Hi King Kong, that is FANTASTIC News. I am very glad Niacin is working well for you - As Victor noted, one of the key things which we need to try and do is to reduce the amount of Niacin being taken.

Having said that, I also feel I need to take Niacin for the following couple of days in order to avoid going deeper into POIS. If I take Additional Niacin I feel POIS around 5-10% like yourself, if I don't I can sometimes feel it a lot stronger 30%-40%

It is obviously VERY Early days in the Niacin testing - But your results and reporting is very very exciting.

JT
Victor and Jivetalk, thank you for your good advice. I will follow your advice.For all these year I suffered of this desease and after everything that I have tried to fight POIS, it's the first time that I have a result. Also, I have clothe allergy and I think that NIACIN is helping me. I don't undestand why but it's seems to help. Maybe it's placebo effect but I will see in the futur if it's that so.

KingKong, I know the feeling. I have also been a long time POIS sufferer so the relief that comes from Niacin is AMAZING. I'm on day 1 now and took 100mg of Niacin earlier when I felt POIS was coming on, and I'm only feeling POIS about 5% now.

Because Niacin as a defence against POIS is new to us at the moment, one of the things I will be doing is talking to my doctor about how Much Niacin I'm taking. Even if he is not convinced about POIS, I will ask him to monitor the effects of NIACIN on my body, especially my liver. I would certainly suggest doing the same.

I'm convinced that this is NOT Placebo, I've tried many other things with nothing like what I am getting from Niacin.

Please keep us posted on your progress, especially when you're convinced its not a Placebo.

JT

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 09/08/2011 04:49:19 »
Quote from: victor.kons on 09/08/2011 03:45:03
Quote from: Kingkong on 09/08/2011 01:48:45
I'M reading each of you since almost 2 1/2 years from now. I'M 51 years old and I'M a pois sufferer since 12 years now. But like some of you, I tried NIACIN recently and the result are very very good for me.

1) The day of O, I'M taking 300 mg 30 minutes before O.
2) If I don't sleep about one hour after O, I'M 50-60% POIS free, IF I sleep for maximum 1 hour after O' when I wake up, Im 90% free.
3) The day after O (day 1), I'm taking 100 mg when I wake up in the morning. During the day, I take other 100 mg when I feel that POIS is coming back. I can take maximum 900 mg the day of O and maximum 500 mg the day after.
4) Day 2, I'M taking 100 mg in the morning, an another 100 mg in the afternoon and I'M still 90 % POIS free.
5) Day 3, 100 mg and I'M 95% POIS free.
6) DAy 4, 100 mg, 100% POIS free.
I must say that I'M very happy whith this result and my girl friend too!

Demografx, I didn't receive your mail that every one must receive from you. Tank you.
Hi Kingkong,

Thank you for your report! I'm glad that Niacin helps you too.

From what you write it looks like you are taking too much Niacin after O, whereas the point is to take the minimum _necessary_ dose of Niacin _prior_ to O so that you don't have to take any Niacin after O, because taking Niacin after O has far less effect. You said that you wait 30 minutes, sounds like too short time before O. After taking niacin pills we usually wait 60 minutes, you should feel the flush and let it starting go away before you have the O.

Victor

Hi Victor, As you know I've been taking 300mg for a little while now - and I can barely feel the Flush anymore if I take it at night (after dinner). (I can feel it if I take it on an empty stomach in the morning)

When you take 150mg especially after food - Do you still feel the Flush at all? or do you Just time it, and ensure that you O at least 60 minutes after Niacin?

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 09/08/2011 04:44:30 »
Quote from: Kingkong on 09/08/2011 01:48:45
I'M reading each of you since almost 2 1/2 years from now. I'M 51 years old and I'M a pois sufferer since 12 years now. But like some of you, I tried NIACIN recently and the result are very very good for me.

1) The day of O, I'M taking 300 mg 30 minutes before O.
2) If I don't sleep about one hour after O, I'M 50-60% POIS free, IF I sleep for maximum 1 hour after O' when I wake up, Im 90% free.
3) The day after O (day 1), I'm taking 100 mg when I wake up in the morning. During the day, I take other 100 mg when I feel that POIS is coming back. I can take maximum 900 mg the day of O and maximum 500 mg the day after.
4) Day 2, I'M taking 100 mg in the morning, an another 100 mg in the afternoon and I'M still 90 % POIS free.
5) Day 3, 100 mg and I'M 95% POIS free.
6) DAy 4, 100 mg, 100% POIS free.
I must say that I'M very happy whith this result and my girl friend too!

Demografx, I didn't receive your mail that every one must receive from you. Tank you.

Hi King Kong, that is FANTASTIC News. I am very glad Niacin is working well for you - As Victor noted, one of the key things which we need to try and do is to reduce the amount of Niacin being taken.

Having said that, I also feel I need to take Niacin for the following couple of days in order to avoid going deeper into POIS. If I take Additional Niacin I feel POIS around 5-10% like yourself, if I don't I can sometimes feel it a lot stronger 30%-40%

It is obviously VERY Early days in the Niacin testing - But your results and reporting is very very exciting.

JT

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 07/08/2011 05:34:27 »
Quote from: victor.kons on 05/08/2011 17:49:05
Hi All,

I continue experiments with Niacin Acid tablets. Seems the effect is stable for me, e.g. no POIS symptoms if tablets are taken 1 hour before "O" in dosage of 150 mg. I've tried this trick 3 times so far, and every time - no POIS.

Warning! Taking Niacin in high doses might cause damage to your liver, please consult with your doctor first

Victor

Hi Victor, Thanks for the continuing reports. I am the same, If I continue to take Niacin my symptoms are much less that I would if I did not take the Niacin prior to O. I am still taking 300mg at the moment.

Just a note: One time, after I had just had a meal, I took 300mg. I could not tell if or when I had a flush and lost track of time. I think I only waited 30 minutes or so before I. That time, my POIS symptoms returned to their usual state which lasted a few days. I have learnt now to wait about 60 minutes like you so before O.

It does seem this has everything to do with timing, and that timing also depends on if you have a full stomach or not.

JT

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 04/08/2011 14:11:33 »
Quote from: EDS on 03/08/2011 14:02:00
I tried the Niacin test before my most recent "O".
I have to say that it seems to help! I is not 100%, but I would rate it at around 50%... possibly more.
I took 250mg 1 hr before "O" and about 1 hr after a large evening meal. I did not feel the "flush" so I did not know if it would help and was wondering if I had the right form of Niacin. I could not find a bottle that listed Nicotinic Acid - only Niacin as the active ingredient. But the label did have the "flush" warning so I assumed it was the right stuff.

I got up the next morning and felt okay (although my worst day is usually day 2) and ate a small breakfast (cereal). Soon after eating I took another 250mg tablet. Nothing happened for about an hour so I thought for sure I had the wrong form of Niacin. Then it hit... hard. The "flush" was very intense, starting at the top of my head and working down to my toes. This is not a good feeling! My skin turned very red and my blood pressure went up - not to a dangerous level, but elevated above my normal BP for morning. I had to get in the pool to help offset the intense heat for about 20 minutes. It took about an hour for the symptoms to subside. I know the hot flush is suppose to be normal, but it was not a good experience  [:(!] (this is about the color I was too).

The great news is... I had one of the best second and third days from "O" than I've had in a long time  [;D]. I understand that the "flush" is less intense each time you take Niacin. I don't fully understand why it did not "flush" the first time, unless it was the large meal prior, which caused a very slow ingestion rate of the Niacin.

So do we really have to feel the flush or does it still help if you take it after a large meal? Or, is the one in the am where I felt the intense flush the one that helped the most? More experimentation  [:-\]. 

At any rate, I will definitely try Niacin the next time and hope for the same good results and less burning.

Keep up the good work all and let's get OUR NORD fund FULLY funded!!!!

Thanks for the Report EDS. Great to hear you got some reasonable results first try around. In my experiments I think I seem to get better results based on 'timing', I need to make sure I've had the flush (even if it is minor) before O. But you are right - If I've had a big dinner or something I get very very minor flush or sometimes even none at all.....I just wait about 60 minutes, and by then its usually okay.

Please keep letting us know how you go.

JT

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 04/08/2011 13:40:52 »
Quote from: apostate801 on 04/08/2011 01:46:18
Is Niacin to be taken only when you know you'll orgasm?  If you're already POISed, will taking it alleviate the symptoms?  If you take it regularly and O 6 hours after your last dosage will that help? 
Quote from: apostate801 on 04/08/2011 01:46:18
Is Niacin to be taken only when you know you'll orgasm?  If you're already POISed, will taking it alleviate the symptoms?  If you take it regularly and O 6 hours after your last dosage will that help? 

Hi Apostate,

These are some very good questions. From my experience taking Niacin whilst in POIS does little to alleviate symptoms. As far as taking it regularly, I don't think this will help - All this seems to do is increase your resistance to Niacin making it harder to get a 'flush' when you need it.

The way to use Niacin that seems most effective is to take a dosage of Niacin (I have been taking 300mg) about 45 minutes-60minutes prior to orgasm. You should feel a 'Flush' and let it pass before you O. The Amount of time before the flush, and duration Flush seems to vary depending on how much food is in your stomach.

We are very much in the early stages of testing Niacin, but my results and some others on here have been very promising. Please remember to talk to your health professional before taking Niacin - Yes it is readily available and just a Vitamin Supplement but it can interfere with other medicines and can damage the liver.

If you do try Niacin - Please post your results here, Good or Bad - This will certainly contribute to this groups further understanding.

JT.

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 30/07/2011 07:29:59 »
Quote from: victor.kons on 30/07/2011 06:49:59
Niacin Acid Tablets Report #5.

Yesterday I've tried to experiment with the dose of Niacin Acid used by jivetalk. I took 300mg in Niacin Acid tablets. And I had a very good experience.

Last time I'm working pretty hard - 15 hours a day, and last days I felt pretty bad, my heart started going down because of tiredness. After taking 300mg Niacin Tablets I felt rise of my strength, my heart started working good again and I finished important milestone yesterday in my work after having an O. Also I had pleasant feeling in my head. This time there were not any negative feelings from stomach or liver. So maybe I have started to adapt to Niacin Acid tablets somehow.

After taking 300mg of Niacin Acid I felt flush in 5 minutes and in an hour the flush was pretty strong, but this time it was even pleasant. My face was red, but I didn't feel any discomfort. I had an O in an hour after taking the tablets. I didn't feel any POIS symptoms neither yesterday, nor today in the morning. So, this time niacin acid tablets was as good as XN injections for me.

I'm going to continue taking niacin acid tablets several times more to check whether this result will be stable.

Victor

Victor, Thank you very much for your continued experimentation and reports - I look forward to more of them. I am very Glad to hear that the 300mg of Niacin is almost as good or even the same as a XN injection. I'm going to place an order for some Xan-Pro Tablets soon to see if they are the same/better/worse than Niacin tablets.

I am VERY interested to see and hear about other people's experience with Niacin also - But please adhere to Victor's previous warnings.

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 30/07/2011 07:26:04 »
Quote from: demografx on 28/07/2011 17:26:19
Quote from: B_Daniel on 28/07/2011 05:56:04
Quote from: jivetalk on 27/07/2011 06:35:19

If you will now excuse me, I am going to make some 'I LOVE B3' Tshirts to wear around. I think some of you here also made some promises about putting up posters of a certain Guy and his CAT  [;D]


That's hilarious!  First of all, I'd love an I heart B3 or maybe even a B3 is my Homeboy t-shirt.  Second, it'd be a bit cruel to have Demo hang up a picture of a banned former-member of the forum.  Victor, do you have a cat??  Maybe a picture of Victor would be a good compromise!  [;D]





Unfortunately, due to forum space considerations, I had to merge the two (sorry).



Demo.......That is GOLD!

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 30/07/2011 07:25:24 »
Quote from: B_Daniel on 28/07/2011 05:56:04
Quote from: jivetalk on 27/07/2011 06:35:19

If you will now excuse me, I am going to make some 'I LOVE B3' Tshirts to wear around. I think some of you here also made some promises about putting up posters of a certain Guy and his CAT  [;D]


That's hilarious!  First of all, I'd love an I heart B3 or maybe even a B3 is my Homeboy t-shirt.  Second, it'd be a bit cruel to have Demo hang up a picture of a banned former-member of the forum.  Victor, do you have a cat??  Maybe a picture of Victor would be a good compromise!  [;D]

B_Daniel,

Hahaha..I was really only joking about the T-Shirts :) Great to hear you're fond of the idea though..
 

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 27/07/2011 13:35:20 »
Quote from: victor.kons on 27/07/2011 08:47:22
EXCELLENT results, thank you SO MUCH, I'm very glad for you jivetalk!

Victor

Thank YOU Victor. I must say, if it wasn't for you who came onto these forums and encouraged us to look at Niacin and Niacin Derivatives like XN - I would not have found this solution. So Thank YOU Victor - Very Very Much.

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 27/07/2011 13:33:50 »
Quote from: horizon on 27/07/2011 10:41:48
Quote from: victor.kons on 27/07/2011 09:05:52
Sounds like a VERY BIG dose. I had feeling like that even from 100mg niacin acid tablet. You had dose 10 times bigger than me.

lol, yeah i was abit complacent because it was only food supplement.

Hahaha...Horizon. I would encourage you to try a smaller dose - BEFORE Orgasm. Please do not dismiss Niacin because I feel you have not given it a fair chance.
Please consult with your doctor too though.

I feel that taking Niacin AFTER the event will do very little. I think Victor will also attest to that.

I think if you O without Niacin, DAMAGE is done. Therefore Taking Niacin afterwards will do little. By Taking Niacin prior - It somehow PREVENTS Damage, which means you do not get affected by POIS or at least get affected a lot less.

Note:  Please also ensure that it is Nicotinic Acid you are Taking - Also NOT Slow Release.

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 27/07/2011 06:35:19 »
Niacin Pills Report #4:

Okay Guys for this little experiment, I tried to do something which would normally have had me in VERY VERY POIS, cowering in a corner somewhere, shutting myself away from the world - completely unmotivated, lethargic, full of brain Fog and likely depressed. I have tried to O twice in two days - both times using Niacin (Nicotinic Acid Pills).

Monday Night:
Dosage: 3 x 100mg Nicotinic Acid Pills about 40 Minutes prior to O.

Straight after O, absoloutely no Brain Fog which is my main symptom straight after O. Was able to sleep fine - It seems that the Niacin Side Effects that I initially had are starting to wear off.

Tuesday Morning:
Woke up the next morning, was again absolutely amazed that I was NOT lethargic, and had Zero Brain Fog. It really is a DIFFERENT feeling waking up the next morning - expecting POIS but having NONE. Throughout the day, I maybe had 5-10% of Brain Fog - but it's hard to tell if this was due to brain fog or something else/stress/headache etc...

Tuesday Night:
Dosage: 3 x 100mg Nicotinic Acid Pills about 40 Minutes prior to O.

Same Scenario as previous night - No problems sleeping or overheating at all.

Wednesday Morning:
I woke up this morning, really really expecting POIS - some of Lethargy or brain fog at least. To my great suprise I had absotley NOTHING. It is currently about 3.21pm here - and I have had absolutely Zero symptoms all Day. I feel absolutely fantastic today - This is probably a combination of it being a Sunny day here AND the fact I have no POIS today, and are very excited by this little experiment.


Notes:
- I am VERY VERY excited by this test, I wanted to do something that would have for SURE put me in POIS previously.
- I did this test to prove to myself that this is NOT a PLACEBO effect.
- I made SURE that I took the Pills at least 30 mins Prior to O, and that I felt the FLUSH effect completely - and let it pass before O. I feel this is a critical component.
- I think that if you do not do the above, the damage would have already been done if you O - and these pills would only have little effect (although they still will have some).
- I will try to reduce my dosage soon, but at this stage am reluctant, as I am getting such good results.
- Please Keep posting our Results - GOOD or BAD.


If you will now excuse me, I am going to make some 'I LOVE B3' Tshirts to wear around. I think some of you here also made some promises about putting up posters of a certain Guy and his CAT  [;D]

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 23/07/2011 13:50:40 »
Quote from: victor.kons on 23/07/2011 09:39:13

Anyways, I'm failed this time. I'm going to wait several days and then try to increase niacin acid dose and try again.


Victor, I think most of us here, me included would think that 20% POIS, that is, an 80% reduction in POIS is certainly NOT a failure.
Thank you for your reports here - They are invaluable to our understanding of what works and what does not. Most Certainly you Have NOT Failed, but are successful in helping to determine an effective treatment.

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 21/07/2011 15:52:00 »
Niacin Pills Report #3:

Dosage: 300 mg about 60 minutes prior to O (3 x 100mg Tablets)

Had another very intense O's last night, but took the dosage above. You know, one of the ones where its very very good, but you're thinking towards the end and afterwards 'Oh no, im going to paying for that for the next few days and possibly weeks!'.

Anyway..No POIS after O last night...... went to sleep and was able to sleep (maybe I'm getting used to the Niacin). However, woke up this morning VERY VERY Hot. I could also certainly feel more blood circulation running through me...I Had to kick the covers off....But....still..No POIS.
After getting up and very suprised I had no POIS and was feeling quite good. About 1/2 to 1 hour after being up and about, I could start to feel POIS slightly coming on. Based on my second Report, where I felt that somehow the Niacin 'Wore off' I decided to take another 100mg tablet. 15 Minutes later, had the flush and the POIS receded....I think I have a plan..

2 Hours later - I Could feel me being on the verge of POIS again...so popped another pill. Same effect, the POIS receded. I did this five times today taking a total of 500mg, and I am sitting here prior to going to bed with very little signs of POIS. I would say throughout the day I had around 10% POIS, which is a HUGE difference for me - But that could just be because I was Soooooo concious of it.

I can't get my hands on any Slow release niacin, but that is effectively what I have done today - 500mg in Slow Release Form.

Notes:
1. I don't think it is actually the FLUSH that is curing the POIS symptoms. The Flush itself only lasts about 5 minutes at the most for me, actually feels quite pleasant - not too strong. However it is well and truly gone by the time the O occurs. As Victor has noted, he can O quite a number of times after XN, but I am sure that the FLUSH would have only lasted a very short time.
2. I do feel slighlty jittery on the Niacin, but nothing too serious.
3. As noted, I have had a little insomnia the past few times I have taken Niacin.
4. I can certainly feel increased blood floor/heart beats whilst on the Niacin
5. I would normally be in VERY heavy POIS right now, tired, lazy, very foggy brain. But I'm actually quite alert, right now, I would say maybe 5% POIS if Anything at all..
6. I also note, usually when I am in POIS  - and I Yawn - I feel VERY EMPTY. As if my Body is Lacking Something severely (vitamins or something) and need to sleep, not sure if anyone else gets that. I did yawn a few times today, but Nothing like a POIS yawn. Just more a normal standard Yawn - and kept going...
7. Going to keep experimenting to see if I can reproduce the results....
8. If this is a Placebo..I hope it continues  :-)

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