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Title: Would this device work for generating energy?
Post by: guest39538 on 27/01/2016 00:14:22
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a syphon system, once started continuous, output no input.

self propelled boats, ''perpetual motion'', free energy
Title: Re: Would this device work for generating energy?
Post by: Colin2B on 27/01/2016 00:40:40
No.
The syphon works by having the output end lower than the surface of the liquid at the input end.
Try it with some tubing and a bucket of water.
Title: Re: Would this device work for generating energy?
Post by: guest39538 on 27/01/2016 08:22:10
No.
The syphon works by having the output end lower than the surface of the liquid at the input end.
Try it with some tubing and a bucket of water.

so would it work if I put the turbine underwater and the outlet under, below the water line,  creating a water flow?
Title: Re: Would this device work for generating energy?
Post by: Colin2B on 27/01/2016 08:43:17
If the turbine is in a cave filled with air, underwater. But then the  turbine would stop when the cave filled with water and  the cave would need pumping out.
If your water source was a mountain lake and the turbine downhill it would work, but then it is easier to let the water drain out of the bottom of the lake. It's called hydroelectricity.
Title: Re: Would this device work for generating energy?
Post by: guest39538 on 27/01/2016 09:07:10
If the turbine is in a cave filled with air, underwater. But then the  turbine would stop when the cave filled with water and  the cave would need pumping out.
If your water source was a mountain lake and the turbine downhill it would work, but then it is easier to let the water drain out of the bottom of the lake. It's called hydroelectricity.

Thank you Colin , I do know what Hydro-electricity is, things such as a ''millers'' river wheel, using the rivers flow to turn the wheel.

I suppose anybody who lives next  to a river with the know how could easily supply themselves with enough electricity.

Maybe my idea is a bit useless hey lol, back to the thinking.

Title: Re: Would this device work for generating energy?
Post by: Colin2B on 27/01/2016 11:22:33
I suppose anybody who lives next  to a river with the know how could easily supply themselves with enough electricity.
I know a few people have converted old mill wheels or built a small turbine in a stream, it can generate a very useful amount of electricity.  Some combine it with a heat pump.
Title: Re: Would this device work for generating energy?
Post by: guest39538 on 27/01/2016 13:25:18

I know a few people have converted old mill wheels or built a small turbine in a stream, it can generate a very useful amount of electricity.  Some combine it with a heat pump.

oh how I would like a simplicity life living by a stream lol, I thank you for your posts
Title: Re: Would this device work for generating energy?
Post by: Space Flow on 29/01/2016 07:14:46
There is a nice hybrid solar system that meets most requirements for free energy once the set up cost is taken care off.
The problem with most stand alone off grid power systems is the storage.
Battery technology has only given us slight improvements since the lead acid cell.
Todays lithium technology although a big improvement, still represents a big initial and replacement cost.
On the other hand, large water storage devices, polly or concrete tanks or even underground bladders have been improving in quality and dropping in price.
If a combination solar wind generating system is used to pump water from a tank at the bottom of a hill to one at the top, and an on demand hydro system large enough to properly power a house, is run of this, it should be able with very slight water topping up for incidental losses, to run a house reliably for a couple of human generations if not more depending on the quality of materials used to start with.
Yes there are set up costs but no replacement costs if well set up.
Perfect battery system.