Naked Science Forum
On the Lighter Side => That CAN'T be true! => Topic started by: Yahya A.Sharif on 24/09/2019 18:39:43
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Search key words:
Is gravity range limited ?
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...you do realize that anything posted online in a searchable format is "recognized by google", right?
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Google recognises "which can be negative, and a number of apples"- as part of my refutation of your ideas.
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Am I in a science forum ?
Picture attached.
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I can post
"The moon is made of blue cheese. My evidence for this is that my cat, Fizzy, told me it is so".
on this science forum.
In a while, Google will index it. And then if I google it, the search will find this page.
Do you understand that google finding something does not mean it is true.
It also does not mean that it is science.
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Do you understand the first site with quotes above it mean ?
picture attached:
diabetes insipidus
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The first site with quotes above it refers to the scientific information that has been chosen by Google someone is searching for, this means Google approved my new theory
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Google finds words.
It does not know what the words mean.
It does not judge if they are right.
You have posted two pictures, one is a clip from this web site in which you say things that are wrong.
The other is a clip from a wiki page about diabetes.
Do you understand that google will find a group of words and post a section of the page where it finds those words.
If you search for " in the beginning was the Word" then it will find the book of Genesis. That doesn't make Genesis correct.
If you search for " Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, " Google will find you the opening chapter of The Hobbit.
That doesn't mean that Tolkien's book is science.
So, what is it that you think you have achieved?
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that means my theory is approved by Google
LOL at the idea of Google being some kind of science authority.
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that means my theory is approved by Google
LOL at the idea of Google being some kind of science authority.
Who are you to underestimate google site ?
"Science authority " ? LOL what does that even mean?
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Who are you to underestimate google site ? are you drunk?
Google does not screen its content for scientifically accurate information. You can find all kinds of fringe material with a Google search.
"Science authority " ? LOL what does that even mean?
It means that Google is not a science website.
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Google does not screen its content for scientifically accurate information. You can find all kinds of fringe material with a Google search.
Read posts #5 and #6
"Science authority " ? LOL what does that even mean?
Google is not a science website.
Really? see posts #5 and #6
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Google does not screen its content for scientifically accurate information. You can find all kinds of fringe material with a Google search.
Read posts #5 and #6
"Science authority " ? LOL what does that even mean?
Google is not a science website.
Really? see posts #5 and #6
Yes, really.
If you look at post 5 you will see that Google gives a search result which is nonsense."Science authority " ? LOL what does that even mean?
"science authority" means some sort of authority on science.
LOL is an abbreviation for "laugh out loud"- though the use is generally hyperbole.
You really don't seem to understand that Google can't think.
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Read posts #5 and #6
And I can show you a Google search that brings up things about young Earth creationism, orgone and chemtrails. Google isn't a science website.
Really?
Yes, really.
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If I type in "parkflyby" into google and select "videos", you'll find a video that shows a Star trek space shuttle flying over a park.
If the description of that video had claimed that this was shot live on location, Google would have still brought it up. (any such claim would have been false. I should know, I made and posted that video)
Google doesn't care or have any way to know if something it links to is true, false, or just a random collection of words. All it does is look for the key words in your search and brings up any links that contain them.
So the fact that google brings up my video does not mean that it accepts that the space shuttle Galileo actually did a fly over of a park in South Africa.
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My new theory has been recognised by Google
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If you want something that is more scientifically believable, try Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/
This indexes material that people find more academically credible.
Surprise: Your article doesn't rate.
More surprise: This one does: "Does Turkey have a special trade relation with the EU?: A gravity model approach"
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More surprise: This one does: "Does Turkey have a special trade relation with the EU?: A gravity model approach"
Also:
"The Orgone Energy Accumulator in the Treatment of Cancer in Mice"
"Scientific Creationism"
"The Reptilian Connection" (about David Icke's shape-shifter conspiracy theory)
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If you want something that is more scientifically believable, try Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/
This indexes material that people find more academically credible.
In contrary , Google found a valuable new theory in a forum " The naked scientist forum" , and they didn't find anything significant in Their Google Scholar section, you have to understand what a first site with quotes above it means.
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If you want something that is more scientifically believable, try Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/
This indexes material that people find more academically credible.
In contrary , Google found a valuable new theory in a forum " The naked scientist forum" , and they didn't find anything significant in Their Google Scholar section, you have to understand what a first site with quotes above it means.
Yes, it means that the moon is made of blue cheese.
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they didn't find anything significant in Their Google Scholar section
You said it well - your theory isn't anything significant.
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If you want something that is more scientifically believable, try Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/
This indexes material that people find more academically credible.
In contrary , Google found a valuable new theory in a forum " The naked scientist forum" , and they didn't find anything significant in Their Google Scholar section, you have to understand what a first site with quotes above it means.
Apart from anything else, you have a circular argument.
You say
"My idea is good because Google cites it" and you also say
"Google cites my theory because it is good".
Do you not see the problem there?
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you have to understand what a first site with quotes above it means
Take a random section of something you wrote, say 10-15 words (something original, not reciting a nursery rhyme).
Statistically, it is very likely that no-one else in the world has put those exact same words in exactly that sequence in the age of the internet.
Now, your string is just 7 words long: "Does gravity have a limited distance range?". For a quoted search, Google says:
5 results (0.21 seconds)
When you quote a string of text in a Google search, Google looks those exact same words in exactly that sequence. If it exists anywhere on the public internet, Google will find and display it. (By the way, your result is not listed among them, in Australia.)
At this level, Google is just doing a word search: You type in a unique sequence of words, and it finds that unique sequence of words. Google places no credibility on whether these are pearls of wisdom, or utter drivel.
However, Google has an amazing innovation that allowed it to take over internet search: The Page Rank algorithm (a play on the author's name, Larry Page). To understand what Google is, you should read/listen to the podcast link below.
As [Page] mulled over the idea with Brin, their shared upbringing as the children of academics kicked in. Larry and Sergey knew the power of the academic citation.
Effectively, if other people think a web page is worthwhile, and link to it ("cites it"), then the ranking goes up.
- So if you put in a non-unique string of words (eg not quoted), out of the millions or billions of matching pages, Google will present you with an ordered list of those that PageRank considers are most valuable on the internet.
Put in your search again, without the quotes, and see how many pages match. Then see where your page comes in the list.
About 48,700,000 results (0.58 seconds)
- There are more factors in the Google algorithm now (including advertising), but that is how Google started
they didn't find anything significant in Their Google Scholar section
Google Scholar was a more recent addition to Google, around 2004. It mostly searches peer-reviewed journals, thesis reports, patents and court cases - documents that have had some form of peer review to sort out the pearls from the drivel.
- It also counts citations of other documents in other peer-reviewed articles
- That is a pretty high bar to reach for your new theory
Even "Does Turkey have a special trade relation with the EU?: A gravity model approach" has 154 citations, which is 154 more than your theory.
To understand something of how Google search works, Read or Listen: http://www.internethistorypodcast.com/2017/04/the-history-of-google/
PS: It's worth listening to the podcast for the classic dial-up modem in the intro!
Note: If you then start creating lots of links to your own theory, then you know you have lost it - and Google knows too!
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you have to understand what a first site with quotes above it means
Take a random section of something you wrote, say 10-15 words (something original, not reciting a nursery rhyme).
Statistically, it is very likely that no-one else in the world has put those exact same words in exactly that sequence in the age of the internet.
Now, your string is just 7 words long: "Does gravity have a limited distance range?". For a quoted search, Google says:
5 results (0.21 seconds)
When you quote a string of text in a Google search, Google looks those exact same words in exactly that sequence. If it exists anywhere on the public internet, Google will find and display it. (By the way, your result is not listed among them, in Australia.)
At this level, Google is just doing a word search: You type in a unique sequence of words, and it finds that unique sequence of words. Google places no credibility on whether these are pearls of wisdom, or utter drivel.
However, Google has an amazing innovation that allowed it to take over internet search: The Page Rank algorithm (a play on the author's name, Larry Page). To understand what Google is, you should read/listen to the podcast link below.
As [Page] mulled over the idea with Brin, their shared upbringing as the children of academics kicked in. Larry and Sergey knew the power of the academic citation.
Effectively, if other people think a web page is worthwhile, and link to it ("cites it"), then the ranking goes up.
- So if you put in a non-unique string of words (eg not quoted), out of the millions or billions of matching pages, Google will present you with an ordered list of those that PageRank considers are most valuable on the internet.
Put in your search again, without the quotes, and see how many pages match. Then see where your page comes in the list.
About 48,700,000 results (0.58 seconds)
- There are more factors in the Google algorithm now (including advertising), but that is how Google started
they didn't find anything significant in Their Google Scholar section
Google Scholar was a more recent addition to Google, around 2004. It mostly searches peer-reviewed journals, thesis reports, patents and court cases - documents that have had some form of peer review to sort out the pearls from the drivel.
- It also counts citations of other documents in other peer-reviewed articles
- That is a pretty high bar to reach for your new theory
Even "Does Turkey have a special trade relation with the EU?: A gravity model approach" has 154 citations, which is 154 more than your theory.
To understand something of how Google search works, Read or Listen: http://www.internethistorypodcast.com/2017/04/the-history-of-google/
PS: It's worth listening to the podcast for the classic dial-up modem in the intro!
Note: If you then start creating lots of links to your own theory, then you know you have lost it - and Google knows too!
All this is non-sense .
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All this is non-sense .
So how do you think a Google search works then?
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All this is non-sense .
In what way?
Also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank
https://www.google.com/intl/en_uk/search/howsearchworks/
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Take a random section of something you wrote, say 10-15 words (something original, not reciting a nursery rhyme).
It reminds me if I want to know what forums I'm a member of, I just Google "Monox D. I-Fly" in quotes since all my forum accounts use that username (or "Monoxdifly" if the forums can only accept alphanumerical characters), and no one else uses that one.
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Take a random section of something you wrote, say 10-15 words (something original, not reciting a nursery rhyme).
It reminds me if I want to know what forums I'm a member of, I just Google "Monox D. I-Fly" in quotes since all my forum accounts use that username (or "Monoxdifly" if the forums can only accept alphanumerical characters), and no one else uses that one.
I now plan to register with some "interesting" sites under the name "Monoxdifly"
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Take a random section of something you wrote, say 10-15 words (something original, not reciting a nursery rhyme).
It reminds me if I want to know what forums I'm a member of, I just Google "Monox D. I-Fly" in quotes since all my forum accounts use that username (or "Monoxdifly" if the forums can only accept alphanumerical characters), and no one else uses that one.
I now plan to register with some "interesting" sites under the name "Monoxdifly"
Now, now... I see you are really a BORED chemist...
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Take a random section of something you wrote, say 10-15 words (something original, not reciting a nursery rhyme).
It reminds me if I want to know what forums I'm a member of, I just Google "Monox D. I-Fly" in quotes since all my forum accounts use that username (or "Monoxdifly" if the forums can only accept alphanumerical characters), and no one else uses that one.
I now plan to register with some "interesting" sites under the name "Monoxdifly"
Now, now... I see you are really a BORED chemist...
So, which sites did you find yourself on?
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Take a random section of something you wrote, say 10-15 words (something original, not reciting a nursery rhyme).
It reminds me if I want to know what forums I'm a member of, I just Google "Monox D. I-Fly" in quotes since all my forum accounts use that username (or "Monoxdifly" if the forums can only accept alphanumerical characters), and no one else uses that one.
I now plan to register with some "interesting" sites under the name "Monoxdifly"
Now, now... I see you are really a BORED chemist...
So, which sites did you find yourself on?
On the other hand, if I did find it then I know what your weird fetishes are.