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Title: I am looking for a word
Post by: Karsten on 24/01/2009 17:29:42

English is a great language. Lots of words. Most of them I do not know.

I am looking for a word (or a combination of two) that says:

Working under the expectation to fulfill high standards while being helped to achieve this level. Working on challenging tasks beyond your comfort level. May include brain and physical work.

Adjective, noun, both, foreign language is OK too.

Thanks!

Title: I am looking for a word
Post by: Karen W. on 24/01/2009 18:23:08

SCAFFOLD LEARNING :

A WAY ONE OFFERS SUPPORT FOR A STUDENT OR PERSON BY SUPPORTING THEM BUT NOT DOING IT FOR THEM BY OFFERING BITS OF SUPPORT AND GUIDANCE WHILE ENCOURAGING THEIR OWN  NATURAL INSTINKS TO GROW AND REACH A BIT FURTHER THEN THEY HAVE GONE AND TO TEST AND EXPERIMENT TO ATTAIN HIGHER GOALS IN A SAFE STRUCTURED ENVIORMENT BY OFFERING THEM OPPORTUNITIES, BOTH PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY TO ATTAIN HIGHER GOALS. GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY AND CHANCE TO TRY NEW THINGS, EXPLORING WHAT IS JUST BEYOND THERE FINGER TIPS, WITHOUT DOING IT FOR THEM.....AND YET PROVIDING A SAFE PLACE FOR THEM TO DO THAT.... SETTING BOUNDRIES ETC AS A SCAFFOLDING OF LEARNING.

 SORRY BOUT THE CAPS...MY KEY IS STUCK...

Title: I am looking for a word
Post by: Make it Lady on 24/01/2009 22:15:11

A leg up.

Title: I am looking for a word
Post by: Chemistry4me on 25/01/2009 02:48:07

Seek the pinnacle. Okay thats three [:I]

Title: I am looking for a word
Post by: RD on 25/01/2009 06:50:13

Quote from: Karsten on 24/01/2009 17:29:42

English is a great language. Lots of words. Most of them I do not know.

I am looking for a word (or a combination of two) that says:

Working under the expectation to fulfill high standards while being helped to achieve this level. Working on challenging tasks beyond your comfort level. May include brain and physical work.

Adjective, noun, both, foreign language is OK too.

Thanks!

I can reduce the number of words, (but cannot condense the 29 words to 2) ...

Quote

Working under the expectation to fulfill high standards while being helped to achieve this level

High achievement is expected if given appropriate support.

Quote

May include brain and physical work

"mental" is more eloquent than "brain".

Title: I am looking for a word
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 25/01/2009 12:53:00

Quote from: RD on 25/01/2009 06:50:13

Quote from: Karsten on 24/01/2009 17:29:42

English is a great language. Lots of words. Most of them I do not know.

I am looking for a word (or a combination of two) that says:

Working under the expectation to fulfill high standards while being helped to achieve this level. Working on challenging tasks beyond your comfort level. May include brain and physical work.

Adjective, noun, both, foreign language is OK too.

Thanks!

I can reduce the number of words, (but cannot condense the 29 words to 2) ...

Quote

Working under the expectation to fulfill high standards while being helped to achieve this level

High achievement is expected if given appropriate support.

Quote

May include brain and physical work

"mental" is more eloquent than "brain".

Cerebral?

Title: I am looking for a word
Post by: Karsten on 25/01/2009 13:00:12

Not bad folks. Please keep going! I need this brainstorm of yours.

Title: I am looking for a word
Post by: Don_1 on 25/01/2009 13:32:57

Enslavement

Title: I am looking for a word
Post by: JimBob on 25/01/2009 15:33:41

mentor
mentoring

Title: I am looking for a word
Post by: RD on 25/01/2009 16:14:54

Quote from: DoctorBeaver on 25/01/2009 12:53:00

Cerebral?

or "intellectual", (encephalonic is too abstruse [:)] )

Title: I am looking for a word
Post by: Karsten on 25/01/2009 18:52:25

I don't mind, as a matter of fact prefer if the word (or combination of words) includes physical activity and skills as well.

To give you more background:

The word currently used for what I wrote above is "Rigor". I think it is a rather dumb choice since it has so many negative connotations. Nevertheless, some educators chose this word to describe something called "cognitive complexity", which also does not include non-mental skills. And the word rigor has nice synonyms like harsh, tough, stiff, unforgiving, stern, etc. and certainly does not insinuate that those exposed to it would kindly and sensitively receive help to be successful.

That is why I am looking for a better word. Using "Rigor" is a reflection of the attitude that exposing students to challenging work (and expecting them to succeed) is trying to diminish: The good-enough attitude.

I have a hard time even accepting that this word is good enough. Military training is rigorous. Boot camp is rigorous. School should be challenging for every student, but not like this. Rigorous programs are designed to let only the best succeed. Good teaching includes being able to differentiate and flexibly adjust to individual student needs and multiple intelligences. And flexibility is the opposite of rigor.

Sorry about the rant. Now you know more. Any other words you can think of?

Title: I am looking for a word
Post by: RD on 26/01/2009 07:28:58

What about ...

"enable students to develop their vocational skills and realise their academic potential"  [?]

(also you might want to include the words "stimulate" or "encourage").