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Non Life Sciences => Technology => Topic started by: neilep on 29/03/2008 17:29:27

Title: Why Does This Side Of My Toaster Not Work ?
Post by: neilep on 29/03/2008 17:29:27
Dear Toaster Experts,

Here is my four slotted toaster !


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Nice eh ?

well, not really , because the right hand pair of slots don't work anymore ! *le sigh*

To save confusion I have labeled them !!

There was no "ppfffft"  or "fizzzzzzzz" or "bang" or smoke.....all that happens is that the right hand side will not stay down anymore !!..any tips as to what might have caused this ?...


Some warm buttered toast will be offered for any toaster fixing suggestions !


Thanks




neil
Toaster Enquirer
Title: Why Does This Side Of My Toaster Not Work ?
Post by: Karen W. on 29/03/2008 18:57:30
Quiz answer.... it looks like the back vents of my bread maker machine,so my guess would be it is the back vents of your bread machine also!
Title: Why Does This Side Of My Toaster Not Work ?
Post by: Karen W. on 29/03/2008 20:24:08
Dear Toaster Experts,

Here is my four slotted toaster !


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Nice eh ?

well, not really , because the right hand pair of slots don't work anymore ! *le sigh*

To save confusion I have labeled them !!

There was no "ppfffft"  or "fizzzzzzzz" or "bang" or smoke.....all that happens is that the right hand side will not stay down anymore !!..any tips as to what might have caused this ?...


Some warm buttered toast will be offered for any toaster fixing suggestions !


Thanks




neil
Toaster Enquirer
There are many different mechanical methods used to hold the toast down in place for toasting.

One of those methods used, at least in ours, which  is  a fairly new toaster is an electrical switch that holds the toast down when it is hooked up to electricity. If there is no power to that switch, the toast will fail to stay down in the proper position for toasting.

1. Could be a power supply to that electrically controlled switch .

2. Could be that the detent mechanism which holds it in place  is somehow out f adjustment or may have a chunk of waffle or something hung up in it, perhaps a (delicious hunk of English muffin?)

3. Could be the whole unit failed

If your toaster does not have an electrically controlled detent or latching mechanism it may also be out of adjustment, or fouled in some way.

It may have a completely mechanical or bi-metallic controlled latch or detent,
depending on your toaster.  If this is the case it could  be disconnected, or out of adjustment or perhaps jammed with debris.

A bi-metallic controlled latch has two pieces of different kinds of metal as I know it, and when they are heated up one of them expands faster then the other causing it to move and bend, and it uses this to method to operate that thermostat mechanism on that kind of toaster.

my suggestion is to take it apart and eyeball it. if you see an obviously burnt switch or detent then replace it or go down town and get a new one or have it repaired at a small appliance repair shop!

It could be not worth the repair cost and you may be better off to junk it and spring for a new one.. compare prices on replacement model of same quality or repair costs... You could fix it your self.. as I see you have improved on your screwing capabilities.. on your last fix it project!
Title: Why Does This Side Of My Toaster Not Work ?
Post by: Seany on 29/03/2008 23:26:24
How about just buying a new computer powered toaster!! [:D][:D]

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmultimediabargains.com%2Fcontributions%2Finputs%2Fenvyimages%2FImage018.jpg&hash=37c690543791cd69fe6ce5ffab4a5733)
Title: Why Does This Side Of My Toaster Not Work ?
Post by: Seany on 29/03/2008 23:27:10
Or this beauty..

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.appliancist.com%2Ftrabo-toaster-toast-gae-aulenti.jpg&hash=a0ee32cb17a33a7d07ed43e2945153d3)

But honestly Neil, I have no idea [;D]
Title: Why Does This Side Of My Toaster Not Work ?
Post by: Seany on 29/03/2008 23:28:26
Wait.. LOOL I just have to post this one.. [:D] Sorry for spamming your thread!! It's just soo cool [:D]

Another cool gadget: transparent toaster

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rlslog.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2006%2F06%2Ftoaster.jpg&hash=12263840e3d0b244b75a8311960830c8)
Title: Why Does This Side Of My Toaster Not Work ?
Post by: Karen W. on 31/03/2008 02:42:36
Or this beauty..

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.appliancist.com%2Ftrabo-toaster-toast-gae-aulenti.jpg&hash=a0ee32cb17a33a7d07ed43e2945153d3)

But honestly Neil, I have no idea [;D]

Does the rack lift out by the red pinch tabs?
Title: Why Does This Side Of My Toaster Not Work ?
Post by: Karen W. on 31/03/2008 04:44:20
How about just buying a new computer powered toaster!! [:D][:D]

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmultimediabargains.com%2Fcontributions%2Finputs%2Fenvyimages%2FImage018.jpg&hash=37c690543791cd69fe6ce5ffab4a5733)

That looks dangerous.. You trying to electrocute yourself? Why do you have a Pen in the toaster? LOL!
Title: Why Does This Side Of My Toaster Not Work ?
Post by: Seany on 31/03/2008 10:27:15
LOL it's not my photo.. I found it LOL! [:P]
Title: Why Does This Side Of My Toaster Not Work ?
Post by: lyner on 31/03/2008 22:25:08
The element is probably gone. If no current is flowing it will not only not get hot but the solenoid which holds the lever in place won't work either. When you hold down the lever, does the element get hot? I suspect it doesn't.
Title: Why Does This Side Of My Toaster Not Work ?
Post by: techmind on 01/04/2008 00:08:28
The element is probably gone. If no current is flowing it will not only not get hot but the solenoid which holds the lever in place won't work either. When you hold down the lever, does the element get hot? I suspect it doesn't.
Wot he said.

(Assuming no-one was poking around with sharp objects...)
Elements in toasters typically fail when a crumb (or worse, some sticky stuff from a Pop-Tart or similar) gets stuck on the element. This crumb carbonises and stops the heat leaving that spot of the element so it locally overheats and burns out. This needn't be dramatic.

Look really carefully at the element on each side of the section which doesn't work, and see if you can see the break, or lodged crumb.

These days toasters are typically absolutely designed not to be taken apart (they'll have one or more Torx/Security-Torx/trianglar-headed screws, or worse) and quite honestly they're so ridiculously cheap that it's not even worth a hobbyist trying to repair them. Then again, this looks like a more upmarket toaster...

Moral of the story:
1) be careful not to force feed mal-formed bread slices into toasters (more likely to touch elements or have bits fall off)
2) if you do have a bit-fell-off incident then switch off and unplug the toaster immediately and dislodge the loose bit before resuming toasting.


Mmmmm.... toast and marmite ... toast and marmalade ... toast and honey ... cheese on toast ... toasty = tasty  [:P]
Title: Why Does This Side Of My Toaster Not Work ?
Post by: neilep on 02/04/2008 23:38:28
Amen to toast and Marmite !!...oh my gawwwwwdd !! ( I especially like the crust toasted with butter and then Marmite !!!..oh my !!!....)


THANK YOU ALL for your wonderful fantastic replies.

Thanks You Karen...excellent instruction and you're right..that's a bread maker !!...well done klevur ewe !!.....Thank you for your excellent knowledge base.

Thank you Sophiecentaur.......your suspicion is correct...it does not get hot when held down.......so...I reckon you simply must be right about the element.

Thank you Techmind.....I appreciate your tips as to where to investigate and your corroboration of Sophiecentaurs thinking.
You are right that it's probably a ' write off ' ..In the mean time...we're conducting our own study as to how livable a two slotted toaster is for a family of six !!!....I think even I know what the conclusion will be !!

Thank You Seany for the awesome toasters !!..YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!
Title: Why Does This Side Of My Toaster Not Work ?
Post by: Karen W. on 03/04/2008 00:33:08
Well I hope you figure her out soon.. You don't want a toast war!
Title: Why Does This Side Of My Toaster Not Work ?
Post by: turnipsock on 03/04/2008 00:47:01
Is there not a switch or a tick box somewhere?

A lot of these toasters have a switch where you can turn off the starboard slots to save power. Perhaps that has gone.

...or just get one of Seany's USB toasters.
Title: Why Does This Side Of My Toaster Not Work ?
Post by: rosalind dna on 03/04/2008 00:57:26
Is there not a switch or a tick box somewhere?

A lot of these toasters have a switch where you can turn off the starboard slots to save power. Perhaps that has gone.

...or just get one of Seany's USB toasters.
LOL LOL LOL LOL  [:P]