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What do you think, smoking gun, for a lab created virus?
Quote from: Jolly2 on 13/12/2020 02:54:34What do you think, smoking gun, for a lab created virus?Nope.
What would be?
Quote from: Jolly2 on 13/12/2020 05:34:27What would be?Some documentation from the lab that did it would be nice.
Considering that any scientist responsible is probably destroying the evidence that's unlikely
Quote from: Kryptid on 13/12/2020 03:33:28Quote from: Jolly2 on 13/12/2020 02:54:34What do you think, smoking gun, for a lab created virus?Nope.What would be?
Quote from: Jolly2 on 13/12/2020 05:34:27Quote from: Kryptid on 13/12/2020 03:33:28Quote from: Jolly2 on 13/12/2020 02:54:34What do you think, smoking gun, for a lab created virus?Nope.What would be? Something that would happen in a lab but couldn't happen in nature.But, while we are getting better at DNA manipulation, nature is still better at it than us.So, at the moment, there couldn't be evidence.There's nothing we do that nature couldn't. OK, if you found someone's name encoded into the DNA, that would be a give-away, but that's not what anyone has found.So what's left as "evidence" is stuff like a lab report- which as you say is going to be hard to find.So the only thing left as a reason for us to think that covid was created in a lab would be if there was any reason to think that a lab would want to create covid.Well... why would anyone bother?It's a rubbish biological warfare agent.Why else would anyone create a fairly bad, but not super-bad virus?It can't be "because they want to make money from the vaccine" either.If that was the reason there would be one company- the one who created the virus- who had a vaccine ready to roll much faster than the others.But we have at least 3 different vaccines all coming on stream at the same time from different companies.And it's buggered up everyone's economy, so that can't be the reason.So, why would anyone have made covid?
Also heard speculation hogwash that the covid vaccine could relate to the roll out of 5G
he only people that can answer the question why was the virus made and released are the people that did it.
All we see currently is the rich getting even richer and the gaps of wealth inequality becoming wider and deeper.
Quote from: Jolly2 on 13/12/2020 16:39:27Also heard speculation hogwash that the covid vaccine could relate to the roll out of 5GFTFYDo you not understand that Occam's razor says that the obvious explanation is that it's just another zoonotic getting lucky and going round the world?There's no reason to suppose that anyone made this virus.So why would you assume stuff like this
There is currently no smoking gun, but the majority of evidence lines up with Covid19 being lab created
"We have never seen a Corona virus with these properties anywhere in nature, therefore the most logical explanation is that ...
They are both qualified to comment,
simply empirical move with the evidence
There is currently no smoking gun
Also heard speculation that the covid vaccine could relate to the roll out of 5G, either that the vaccine would offer protection from the 5G networks or allow some form of tracking by the networks.
Quote from: Jolly2 on 13/12/2020 17:09:24"We have never seen a Corona virus with these properties anywhere in nature, therefore the most logical explanation is that ...... we didn't look in the right place.Quote from: Jolly2 on 13/12/2020 17:09:24There is currently no smoking gun, but the majority of evidence lines up with Covid19 being lab createdAnd, as I have pointed out, it also lines up with it being natural because, as I said, there's nothing much we can do in the lab which nature couldn't.Quote from: Jolly2 on 13/12/2020 17:09:24They are both qualified to comment, So am I, and you should know better than to try and push an argument from authority on this site.It just gets you laughed at.Quote from: Jolly2 on 13/12/2020 17:09:24simply empirical move with the evidenceAnd this is the evidence.Quote from: Jolly2 on 13/12/2020 17:09:24There is currently no smoking gunAnd that's why we are not rejecting the null hypothesisIt's because we are scientists, not newspaper headline writers.If you want me to believe an extraordinary claim, you need to provide extraordinary evidence.
The best you have so far is "we can't prove it's natural".Incidentally, why does it matter?If some twit in a lab flushed it without autoclaving it and it was picked up by a bat, what actual difference would that make?
Quote from: Jolly2 on 13/12/2020 16:39:27Also heard speculation that the covid vaccine could relate to the roll out of 5G, either that the vaccine would offer protection from the 5G networks or allow some form of tracking by the networks.You've got to be kidding...
No there are all kinds of ideas out there
It makes a huge difference, a naturally occurring virus compared to one released intentionally.
If some twit in a lab flushed it without autoclaving it and it was picked up by a bat,
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No there are all kinds of ideas out there, nano bots that can be use to track people, metals that will either protect or increase the damage from 5G waves.... on and on.