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If there is a controlling intelligence, it has a despicable attitude to living things. This leaves just two options: either there is no god, or there is a hateful god. The former is the simpler assumption, and makes me happier.
......and loves us?
Being a person of very limited understanding, I cannot accept that a just and loving deity invented congenital syphilis.
There is no need for violence between humans, but religions promote it. It must therefore be a Gift of God. Yours, not mine.
But this too, I hold, is the work of a spirit, which can be cast out.
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 26/12/2017 04:47:18But this too, I hold, is the work of a spirit, which can be cast out.So, you hold a belief that the evidence shows to be wrong.Not something to brag about on a science web site.
I am not one of the "religious" I am a Christian, capable of self correction.
Casting out spirits can be seen and filmed...
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 27/12/2017 11:19:19I am not one of the "religious" I am a Christian, capable of self correction. Would that be the kind of christian that started the crusades, the kind that ran the inquisition, the kind that bombs birth control clinics, or the kind that throws stones at children who attend the other kind of christian school? Or just the kind that asks the Almighty to change the laws of physics and chemistry which He created? Why label yourself at all? Nobody else cares what you do on Sunday, or has any right or need to know.
Quote from: alancalverd on 27/12/2017 14:29:20Quote from: Europan Ocean on 27/12/2017 11:19:19I am not one of the "religious" I am a Christian, capable of self correction. Would that be the kind of christian that started the crusades, the kind that ran the inquisition, the kind that bombs birth control clinics, or the kind that throws stones at children who attend the other kind of christian school? Or just the kind that asks the Almighty to change the laws of physics and chemistry which He created? Why label yourself at all? Nobody else cares what you do on Sunday, or has any right or need to know.That hits upon exactly what I am trying to say. Just because of trouble amongst Buddhists or Muslims or Basques, or the the old Catholic church does not mean I am in with them. I am not one of them, I revise and have a conscience...