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Just Chat! / When is there ever a need for censorship
« on: 18/12/2009 07:17:51 »
Guys, you will notice that two of my threads have been locked. The one dealt with an article published some time back that described some experimental apparatus that crashes through conventional constraints determined by thermodynamic laws. When some of the contributors eventually cottoned on to the extent of the accreditation on this test they literally hounded me off the forum. I was likened to a 'talking coconut' - advised to get an education - laughed and - mocked - all with varying levels of articulation and effectiveness. NOT ONCE did BenV come to my rescue to advise the contributors that their posts were out of line. And this, notwithstanding that it defied the required standards in posting responsibility.
The second dealt with an earnest attempt to evaluate the responsibility of our academics to advance experimental evidence even if it conflicted with known scientific laws. I had tried 3 times prior to get this published. We've just submitted a 4th paper. This time our declared object is to advise the reading public of this breach and of the submission of yet another paper for review. The hope is that if the public are at least informed about the claim then they will also require the publication to be evaluated openly and fairly. So. I'm doing something that I feel is necessary. I'm alerting the public to a discovery that I feel it is their right to know.
But this thread too, carried an attack. Now I was told that I shout at cheese. That my english grammer is not perfect, that I am claiming perpetual motion, and on and on. This time, having had experience of prior attacks - I decided to defend myself. But this license to criticise the contributor also seems to carries a caveat on these forums. The contributor may not defend himself or herself under any circumstances but must exercise the utmost reason and constraint in the face of ad hominem - and may not retaliate even when it is obvious that the attack is unfair.
The one thing that 'sticks in the craw' so to speak - is this fact - not that the thread was locked. It's an enormous shame as the thread had a huge readership and people don't read what they're not interested in. But it's the removal of my drawing that I posted on youtube. I had done previous drawings. I'm going to post links to them all in due course but will only give a link here to those that refer to the following contributors. MileHigh, TK and Poynt99. I accused them of trolling and we had real fun in the banter that followed and none of the contributors took offense. I expected it to generate the same amusement here - as did my doggerel. Instead of which I find that my drawing has been censored. I'm apalled guys. The more so as it appears contributors are free to call me names such as 'a talking coconut' among many, many others. Those are allowed? But my drawing is not? When is censorship justified is my question? And who defends the contributors on these forums? My objects are earnest and I am anxious to dicuss these issues. Surely all such should be encouraged?
Just as a final thought. I have known an attack on the internet that has probably been unequalled in its history. But I also know that it takes time to 'win' over a readership. I've had experience of this. I cannot do so if I am not allowed to speak. And I resent having to speak other people's ideas and not my own. That's the invitation on this forum. I've taken up that invitation - is all.
The second dealt with an earnest attempt to evaluate the responsibility of our academics to advance experimental evidence even if it conflicted with known scientific laws. I had tried 3 times prior to get this published. We've just submitted a 4th paper. This time our declared object is to advise the reading public of this breach and of the submission of yet another paper for review. The hope is that if the public are at least informed about the claim then they will also require the publication to be evaluated openly and fairly. So. I'm doing something that I feel is necessary. I'm alerting the public to a discovery that I feel it is their right to know.
But this thread too, carried an attack. Now I was told that I shout at cheese. That my english grammer is not perfect, that I am claiming perpetual motion, and on and on. This time, having had experience of prior attacks - I decided to defend myself. But this license to criticise the contributor also seems to carries a caveat on these forums. The contributor may not defend himself or herself under any circumstances but must exercise the utmost reason and constraint in the face of ad hominem - and may not retaliate even when it is obvious that the attack is unfair.
The one thing that 'sticks in the craw' so to speak - is this fact - not that the thread was locked. It's an enormous shame as the thread had a huge readership and people don't read what they're not interested in. But it's the removal of my drawing that I posted on youtube. I had done previous drawings. I'm going to post links to them all in due course but will only give a link here to those that refer to the following contributors. MileHigh, TK and Poynt99. I accused them of trolling and we had real fun in the banter that followed and none of the contributors took offense. I expected it to generate the same amusement here - as did my doggerel. Instead of which I find that my drawing has been censored. I'm apalled guys. The more so as it appears contributors are free to call me names such as 'a talking coconut' among many, many others. Those are allowed? But my drawing is not? When is censorship justified is my question? And who defends the contributors on these forums? My objects are earnest and I am anxious to dicuss these issues. Surely all such should be encouraged?
Just as a final thought. I have known an attack on the internet that has probably been unequalled in its history. But I also know that it takes time to 'win' over a readership. I've had experience of this. I cannot do so if I am not allowed to speak. And I resent having to speak other people's ideas and not my own. That's the invitation on this forum. I've taken up that invitation - is all.