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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: Yahya on 27/09/2018 15:35:09
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Why not light to be consisted of electromagnetic waves and particles represented by photons If it has characteristics of both a wave and a particle?
Each part of light gives observations for its own characteristics.
That to be said when light is emitted from a source there should be a photons emission as well as electromagnetic waves emission from the same source.And both travel with the same speed of light.
And there is a relation between Electromagnetic wave frequency and photon energy the more frequency the more photon energy making photon and waves a unified collection, but the two are separate entities so that we can apply Maxwell's equations and quantum mechanics equations separately.
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For each photon emitted there is a wave is produced in the Electromagnetic Field.
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Last time I checked, you didn't believe in atoms, atomic nuclei or quantum mechanics. So why bother believing in something like photons?
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Last time I checked, you didn't believe in atoms, atomic nuclei or quantum mechanics. So why bother believing in something like photons?
I changed my mind ,so I thought of thinking of ideas based on current knowledge instead of denying the basics
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Each part of light gives observations for its own characteristics.
That idea doesn't work.
If I shine a beam of light through a diffraction grating it all gets split into diffracted beams- so it must all have wave properties.
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Each part of light gives observations for its own characteristics.
That idea doesn't work.
If I shine a beam of light through a diffraction grating it all gets split into diffracted beams- so it must all have wave properties.
I meant if we thought of light as particles the part of light"photons" gives the idea light is particles , and if we thought of light as electromagnetic waves , the part of light"waves" gives the idea that light is electromagnetic waves.
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An electron absorbs a photon and a vibrating electron produces photons, at the same time this electron produces independent EM waves since the electron is electrically charged.
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Why not light to be consisted of electromagnetic waves and particles represented by photons If it has characteristics of both a wave and a particle?
Each part of light gives observations for its own characteristics.
That to be said when light is emitted from a source there should be a photons emission as well as electromagnetic waves emission from the same source.And both travel with the same speed of light.
And there is a relation between Electromagnetic wave frequency and photon energy the more frequency the more photon energy making photon and waves a unified collection, but the two are separate entities so that we can apply Maxwell's equations and quantum mechanics equations separately.
You can think of the photon as being both a wave and a particle, traveling as a wave with its energy instantly absorbed on contact just like a particle.
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Why not light to be consisted of electromagnetic waves and particles represented by photons If it has characteristics of both a wave and a particle?
Each part of light gives observations for its own characteristics.
That to be said when light is emitted from a source there should be a photons emission as well as electromagnetic waves emission from the same source.And both travel with the same speed of light.
And there is a relation between Electromagnetic wave frequency and photon energy the more frequency the more photon energy making photon and waves a unified collection, but the two are separate entities so that we can apply Maxwell's equations and quantum mechanics equations separately.
You can think of the photon as being both a wave and a particle, traveling as a wave with its energy instantly absorbed on contact just like a particle.
Photon is neutrally charged.
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Photon is neutrally charged.
Nobody said (or implied) that it isn't.
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Photon is neutrally charged.
Nobody said (or implied) that it isn't.
If the two are one thing how does a neutrally charged photon gives electric properties to the EM waves?
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How light is both photons and EM waves if the two are completely different ?
Photons are neutrally charged , EM waves are electric field perpendicular to magnetic fields.
photons are particles , EM waves are waves and vibrations.
Photon is absolute energy , EM waves are fields.
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Why not light to be consisted of electromagnetic waves and particles represented by photons If it has characteristics of both a wave and a particle?
Each part of light gives observations for its own characteristics.
That to be said when light is emitted from a source there should be a photons emission as well as electromagnetic waves emission from the same source.And both travel with the same speed of light.
And there is a relation between Electromagnetic wave frequency and photon energy the more frequency the more photon energy making photon and waves a unified collection, but the two are separate entities so that we can apply Maxwell's equations and quantum mechanics equations separately.
Hello, are you referring to visible light or the '''light'' that traverses through the space between objects?
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Why not light to be consisted of electromagnetic waves and particles represented by photons If it has characteristics of both a wave and a particle?
Each part of light gives observations for its own characteristics.
That to be said when light is emitted from a source there should be a photons emission as well as electromagnetic waves emission from the same source.And both travel with the same speed of light.
And there is a relation between Electromagnetic wave frequency and photon energy the more frequency the more photon energy making photon and waves a unified collection, but the two are separate entities so that we can apply Maxwell's equations and quantum mechanics equations separately.
Hello, are you referring to visible light or the '''light'' that traverses through the space between objects?
Hi, all kinds of EM waves including visible light.
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Hi, all kinds of EM waves including visible light.
When we consider light, I personally like to define it as two categories, namely visible light and invisible light.
Visible light :
The frequency of visible light is referred to as color, and ranges from 430 trillion hertz, seen as red, to 750 trillion hertz,
Invisible light is outside of those frequencies and cannot be observed/seen directly by human sight although some animals can observe/see some frequencies outside of that range, such as infra red . Additionally , our own ingenuity has allowed us to produce technology that can detect some of these unseen frequencies.
I consider a wave may possibly be a field fluctuation caused by photons traversing through that field. Otherwise, a field would have no causality to fluctuate to be wave like , a waves ''characteristics'' are flowing energy.
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a waves ''characteristics'' are flowing energy.
A wave occur in continuous field , however photons are discrete
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Photon is neutrally charged.
Nobody said (or implied) that it isn't.
If the two are one thing how does a neutrally charged photon gives electric properties to the EM waves?
Thanks for pinpointing the limits of your understanding.How light is both photons and EM waves if the two are completely different ?
They are not different.
They are the same thing.
Photon is absolute energy ,
What do you consider that phrase to mean?
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... absolute energy
Doesn’t exist, except in the minds of those who do not understand basic physics.
A wave occur in continuous field
Tell that to a bat!