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Title: new theory canceled
Post by: casualty on 14/07/2021 22:48:35
I work on music like Newton works on physics: scientific method, hypotheses, experiments, inference of universal fundamental laws, and engineering (of music) based in the fundamental laws. I accomplish less in 30 years than Newton did in a couple of years, but I still have accomplished a lot. My A.I. is composing comparably to Beethoven, Lady Gaga, Suge Knight, depending on my setting the parameters. It composes a thousand times better than I do when I try to compose on my own.

Frustrated by Sympy, Maple, Mathematica, and Maxima, I made my own substitute. It doesn't know nearly all the math Mathematica knows, but for my purposes, my language is better. It has first class anonymous functions, OOP. My language is great.

I thought it would end with me patenting a technology that makes decent music. Instead I have made technology that makes better music than humans. It would be a big deal. But I have had a horrible time from humans along the way, injured and exploited by M.D.'s wrongfully imprisoned by corrupt police and low-IQ judge, with no protest from anyone. If I got a billion dollars for a patent, useless to me, because too physically ill to spend any. So I don't put this in the New Theories forum or publish my work, I take it to the grave.
Title: Re: new theory canceled
Post by: casualty on 14/07/2021 22:50:21
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Title: Re: new theory canceled
Post by: Origin on 15/07/2021 03:11:48
My A.I. is composing comparably to Beethoven, Lady Gaga, Suge Knight,
Then you are either delusional or you are the worst business person in the world.  As an aside, I don't think that Beethoven and pop stars are actually on the same level...
Title: Re: new theory canceled
Post by: casualty on 15/07/2021 06:53:07
My A.I. is composing comparably to Beethoven, Lady Gaga, Suge Knight,
Then you are either delusional or you are the worst business person in the world.  As an aside, I don't think that Beethoven and pop stars are actually on the same level...
I can't use money, so if I spent time making it, I'd be bad at business. Real quick, something killed my mother, then spread to me, and doctors spent ten seconds before declaring me hypochondriac. Health department messed up when I showed them evidence. DOJ charged me with an email threat, decided to commit me, needed an excuse, so said my symptoms were imaginary as their excuse. Six years, USA calling me a delusional idiot. I'm just dying now, I can't use money.

I'm trying to make good pop music. It serves a purpose. Easy to sing melodies, rhythm is what people expect for dance. I can appreciate that top 40 music is better than my early attempts to make top 40 music. They have some talent I did not. Now I'm catching up. Easier for me to get synths sounding good than to spend the time getting other instruments sounding good. My A.I. doesn't do that part, it's lots of work for me.

P.S., and for vocals I got Yamaha Vocaloid Cyber Diva, and she makes pop music fun.
Title: Re: new theory canceled
Post by: Origin on 15/07/2021 11:37:18
I can't use money, so if I spent time making it, I'd be bad at business. Real quick, something killed my mother, then spread to me, and doctors spent ten seconds before declaring me hypochondriac. Health department messed up when I showed them evidence. DOJ charged me with an email threat, decided to commit me, needed an excuse, so said my symptoms were imaginary as their excuse. Six years, USA calling me a delusional idiot. I'm just dying now, I can't use money.

I'm trying to make good pop music. It serves a purpose. Easy to sing melodies, rhythm is what people expect for dance. I can appreciate that top 40 music is better than my early attempts to make top 40 music. They have some talent I did not. Now I'm catching up. Easier for me to get synths sounding good than to spend the time getting other instruments sounding good. My A.I. doesn't do that part, it's lots of work for me.

P.S., and for vocals I got Yamaha Vocaloid Cyber Diva, and she makes pop music fun.
Got it.  Good luck and I hope things work out for you.
Title: Re: new theory canceled
Post by: Bored chemist on 15/07/2021 12:54:49
My A.I. is composing comparably to Beethoven, Lady Gaga, Suge Knight, depending on my setting the parameters. I
The phrase "comparably to" includes the situation where the comparison is made and the AI is found to be appallingly bad, compared to those musicians.
Put a sample of your AI's music on YouTube and maybe we will form an opinion about it.
Title: Re: new theory canceled
Post by: alancalverd on 15/07/2021 20:52:27
The test of "goodness" of music is really one of longevity. Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Brahms, Handel, Haydn, Sousa, Bernstein....still fill the airwaves and the concert halls when they aren't backing TV commercials. The common thread seems to be that each piece was composed for a purpose or an occasion, not speculatively to make money, so every memorable composition says something more than "ah lurv ya" or "life is sh1t on da street".

Funny how the 3-minute song has become the staple of popular music. It was invented to put jazz (where the song can be as long or short as you like) onto Edison wax cylinders, and the 180-second discipline was adopted quite unnecessarily by makers of vinyl records because "that's how jazz is", hence all ballroom and pop music ever since!

Serious students like Chuck Berry and The Beatles managed to tell a story in three minutes, but few others have done so, and their work has gone to landfill in consequence.

Title: Re: new theory canceled
Post by: Bored chemist on 15/07/2021 21:41:59
A good band  can hold the attention of fans for a span of more than 3 minutes.
Unfortunately, there don't seem to be may good bands around these days.
Title: Re: new theory canceled
Post by: casualty on 15/07/2021 23:00:51
A good band  can hold the attention of fans for a span of more than 3 minutes.
Unfortunately, there don't seem to be may good bands around these days.
ABBA Dancing Queen has half a billion YouTube views.
Title: Re: new theory canceled
Post by: casualty on 15/07/2021 23:13:26
The phrase "comparably to" includes the situation where the comparison is made and the AI is found to be appallingly bad, compared to those musicians.
Put a sample of your AI's music on YouTube and maybe we will form an opinion about it.
I understand your skepticism; make something YouTube-ready is in the future I hope, but first there are higher priorities for me. I don't expect anyone to like my music because I opined that it's good.

Every A.I. I've heard has lost my interest after a few seconds. Mine is different: no neural nets. One major in music, a second major in A.I., six years in jail reading Bach and Beethoven scores, read every English theory book and some unpublished ones and some untranslated ones. Read Gauss and Euler.
Title: Re: new theory canceled
Post by: Origin on 16/07/2021 01:33:35
I understand your skepticism; make something YouTube-ready is in the future I hope, but first there are higher priorities for me.
Then you're just some guy on the internet making unsubstantiated boasts. 
Title: Re: new theory canceled
Post by: casualty on 16/07/2021 02:32:49
I understand your skepticism; make something YouTube-ready is in the future I hope, but first there are higher priorities for me.
Then you just some guy on the internet making unsubstantiated boasts.
Yes but willing to put money on it, unless that violates laws. If we could define a way to measure musical success, I'll bet money I can do it. The difference between me and just some guy. Or without hearing the music, you could look at my whole life and see, if anyone, this guys seems like a good candidate for doing what he says; every test along the way, he aced.
Title: Re: new theory canceled
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/07/2021 08:34:20
The phrase "comparably to" includes the situation where the comparison is made and the AI is found to be appallingly bad, compared to those musicians.
Put a sample of your AI's music on YouTube and maybe we will form an opinion about it.
I understand your skepticism; make something YouTube-ready is in the future I hope, but first there are higher priorities for me. I don't expect anyone to like my music because I opined that it's good.

Every A.I. I've heard has lost my interest after a few seconds. Mine is different: no neural nets. One major in music, a second major in A.I., six years in jail reading Bach and Beethoven scores, read every English theory book and some unpublished ones and some untranslated ones. Read Gauss and Euler.
You can do all those complicated things, but can't put a sound recording on TY.
That seems odd.
Title: Re: new theory canceled
Post by: casualty on 16/07/2021 09:22:47
The phrase "comparably to" includes the situation where the comparison is made and the AI is found to be appallingly bad, compared to those musicians.
Put a sample of your AI's music on YouTube and maybe we will form an opinion about it.
I understand your skepticism; make something YouTube-ready is in the future I hope, but first there are higher priorities for me. I don't expect anyone to like my music because I opined that it's good.

Every A.I. I've heard has lost my interest after a few seconds. Mine is different: no neural nets. One major in music, a second major in A.I., six years in jail reading Bach and Beethoven scores, read every English theory book and some unpublished ones and some untranslated ones. Read Gauss and Euler.
You can do all those complicated things, but can't put a sound recording on TY.
That seems odd.
1993: https://www.dropbox.com/s/djo04kasxxb8t7e/Stanford%20Transcript.pdf?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ufunzy6nilgv39/composite.png?dl=0

2021: The untreated infectious disease in my head is worsening, so now I'm short of breath, light-headed, weak heartbeat, double vision, dizzy.

You'll become unproductive too someday. Nothing odd about that part; what's odd is the circumstances surrounding my death. It was odd everyone acted like they wanted to contract this transmissible infectious disease; no one tried to control its transmission, and Arizona and U.S. DOJ punished me for reporting my findings about it. It is carcinogenic. I journalist for Washington Post got it, took notes, left them to her son before she died:

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1416292465779986106

He was a scientist admitted early to Harvard and MIT. U.S. punished / killed him for reporting his scientific findings.
Title: Re: new theory canceled
Post by: Europa on 19/07/2021 17:10:45
My A.I. is composing comparably to Beethoven, Lady Gaga, Suge Knight,
Then you are either delusional or you are the worst business person in the world.  As an aside, I don't think that Beethoven and pop stars are actually on the same level...

Actually Beethoven worked with what instruments that he had in his day just as modern artist do the same with more options
Title: Re: new theory canceled
Post by: Origin on 19/07/2021 22:01:29
Actually Beethoven worked with what instruments that he had in his day just as modern artist do the same with more options
True.  Also comparing Beethoven to pop stars is absurd.
Title: Re: new theory canceled
Post by: Europa on 19/07/2021 22:36:03
Actually Beethoven worked with what instruments that he had in his day just as modern artist do the same with more options
True.  Also comparing Beethoven to pop stars is absurd.
Actually Beethoven was the pop star of his day.
Title: Re: new theory canceled
Post by: Bored chemist on 20/07/2021 08:50:22
Actually Beethoven worked with what instruments that he had in his day just as modern artist do the same with more options
True.  Also comparing Beethoven to pop stars is absurd.
Actually Beethoven was the pop star of his day.
Among those who could afford an orchestra.