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Title: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Curious Cat on 17/09/2021 11:05:42
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Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: alancalverd on 17/09/2021 22:27:17
they were made in the image of God,
Is that the god with a penis or the god with a vagina? The nether region of the Judaeo-Christian god is usually wrapped in a toga but He/She has both long, flowing hair and a hefty beard. AFAIK lobsters and squid were created by Kali and Ganesh did a good job too.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Kryptid on 17/09/2021 22:42:11
N/or nipples!

What would nipples have to do with it? Those aren't a byproduct of being born.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Kryptid on 17/09/2021 22:49:32
No, but why would Adam have 'em? E/specially if he was created first? What use were they to him?

It's not like they're useful for other men either.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Zer0 on 17/09/2021 22:50:12
Hello CC

Nice Observation.
👍

But isn't Science the Wrong way to Understand Theology?

U know i wondered who passed on the ' X ' chromosome to Mary the Virgin.
Holy Ghost eh?
👻

Ps - In mathematics 1 x 1 = 1.
But in religion,
1 loaf of bread x 1 divine touch = Food for All.
✌️

I used to make Fun of other Peoples beliefs.
Found them soo stoopid & dumb.
Still can't resist sumtimes.
But I'm learning...Dignity!

SideNote - Hello Alan
😊

I'm fond of Kali...do not consider Her a divine goddess or nethin.
But i like Her.
Coz She's Black!
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Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Bored chemist on 18/09/2021 01:38:45
No, but why would Adam have 'em? E/specially if he was created first? What use were they to him?

It's not like they're useful for other men either.
You have much to learn.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Petrochemicals on 18/09/2021 10:32:39
Because God grew them as clones in his spaceship with Martian DNA that he had spliced with chimpanzee DNA from earth, 10,000 years ago. He obviously needed a way to impart nutrients into the body, and also a way of self replication so the umbilical chord was crafted. The human skin is not very good at osmosis of nutrients.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Colin2B on 18/09/2021 12:36:26
Because God grew them as clones
Maybe.
Certainly the bible says that they, and hence we, were made in God’s image so artists would assume they were created with a navel and probably that god also had a navel.
However, simpler to assume the artists used human models when painting.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Bored chemist on 18/09/2021 22:17:29
God created man in His own image, so God must also have one...
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: alancalverd on 19/09/2021 14:25:20
No, but why would Adam have 'em? E/specially if he was created first? What use were they to him?

Adam was both the prototype and the customer for Eve. Always a good idea to allow for a few possible developments, and if you claim to be omniscient you can build in a bit of redundancy to save re-tooling later.  But if you really are omniscient, why bother with a prototype?
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: alancalverd on 19/09/2021 15:27:37
Reminiscent of a famous retort.

Pompous bore haranguing Eric Morecambe: "To succeed in show business you need three things...."

Morecambe: "If you've got three, you'd be in a circus."
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Bored chemist on 19/09/2021 16:13:54
One Wot, BC!?
a belly button/navel?
Had you forgotten what the thread was about?
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Just thinking on 19/09/2021 19:25:15
I think the context of image is wrong if I paint a painting and someone asks who did this work I can respond by saying this is my image I created it. God created all and we are a part of that image not a painting but the real deal. why do men have nipples you could have just googled it we are basically all equipped with this feature as a fetus and nen still have them as an after effect of the sex selection. So men have them in the event we became female.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: alancalverd on 19/09/2021 19:45:17
Difference between creating your own  image (any signed painting) and creating something in your own image (a self portrait).
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Just thinking on 19/09/2021 19:57:37
Difference between creating your own  image (any signed painting) and creating something in your own image (a self portrait).
And I think the question relates to your first quote. We and all were made in God's image. God's image of the world?
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Just thinking on 19/09/2021 20:31:47
Yes I know that all the embryoes and maybe even fetuses start out as females.
That's why I say that Eve must have come first.
"And I thought that men always come first, Ted". Ye's, Dougal.
I once heard a biologist say that U are either a male or U're not.
If U have a Y chromosome, U're a male, else U're not.
You see if God created adam and eve they will have all the traits of the human so as to be able to reproduce themselves. As for the artwork that we see it has been created by people that never witnessed adam and eve so I guess the artist just presumes how they may have looked. Maybe Adam had no bell button or nipples. I bet he had his wedding tackle.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Bored chemist on 19/09/2021 20:48:59
We and all were made in God's image. God's image of the world?
No.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_of_God#New_Testament
It really isn't meant to be complicated.
He looks like us.
And that's what makes it interesting...
We are made in the image of God
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Just thinking on 19/09/2021 20:50:51
A wedding tackle U say, JT. Wot's dat den? Maybe U should explain that to the children.
I'm just 'avin' a laugh, mite. U don't have to reply, unless U got something, really witty, already.
I don't think that little leaf would have had much use for Adam when he got excited. They must have been the for runer to the thong.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Just thinking on 19/09/2021 20:56:16
It really isn't meant to be complicated.
He looks like us.
That's one interpretation out of many.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Just thinking on 19/09/2021 21:11:11
God did not create Man, in his image. Man created god, in his image.
That's blasphemy I think.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Petrochemicals on 19/09/2021 21:31:40
That's blasphemy I think.
Perhaps, but truth often is.
No no, man is made in the image of God, who has nonfunctioning nipples for some strange reason.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Just thinking on 19/09/2021 21:32:14
Perhaps, but truth often is.
I'm not going to use the word blasphemy anymore then. Well, I will try not to that is.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Just thinking on 19/09/2021 21:36:02
No no, man is made in the image of God, who has nonfunctioning nipples for some strange reason.
I'm a man and I still haven't found any function in mine yet either.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Bored chemist on 19/09/2021 21:41:08
That's blasphemy I think.
Perhaps, but truth often is.
I can't, off hand, think of a statement which is blasphemous, but objectively false.
Some might be undecidable.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Just thinking on 19/09/2021 21:46:04
I can't, off hand, think of a statement which is blasphemous, but objectively false.
Some might be undecidable.
It's one of those words that sound good I think I will start using it again.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Colin2B on 19/09/2021 22:53:55
I'm a man and I still haven't found any function in mine yet either.
You gotta be kidding  ;D
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Colin2B on 19/09/2021 23:13:22
......to save re-tooling later. 
I think he’s got it, by jove he’s got it.
If we assume DNA was built in at the beginning and is responsible for all ‘features’, then you wouldn’t want the complications of having the system retool itself, so to speak!

Out of the mouths of babes and engineers 
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Petrochemicals on 19/09/2021 23:41:27
I can't, off hand, think of a statement which is blasphemous, but objectively false.
Some might be undecidable.
"I am God."

That seems to meet both your criteria. So do you consider it undecidable? Technically I suppose so.
That is heresy. Blasphemy is " God isn't all he's cracked up to be"
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Bored chemist on 20/09/2021 08:44:25
I can't, off hand, think of a statement which is blasphemous, but objectively false.
Some might be undecidable.
"I am God."

That seems to meet both your criteria. So do you consider it undecidable? Technically I suppose so.
You are just as much a God as any other.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Just thinking on 20/09/2021 17:12:48
Don't try the milk from a cow that only has one udder it tasted foul. It must be something to do with the breed.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Zer0 on 23/09/2021 09:32:28
If We All come from A&E...
Then, are We all products of Incest?

PS - GOD deliberately wanted Us All to be Born Sinners & keep askin for Forgiveness for No Apparent designing fault of Ours?
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Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Petrochemicals on 23/09/2021 18:51:00
Good point. I think he meant to say a teat. Get it? A bull!
Never drink from a teat that is midway between the front and rear legs located on the belly.  Nor try to milk the 2 vessle containers between such a bovines legs.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Just thinking on 24/09/2021 12:57:10
All the milk I drink comes from single-uddered cows. Never seen one with more.
Thanks Halac I got a bit confused in all the fun. Furious cat set it straight.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Just thinking on 24/09/2021 13:01:41
Never drink from a teat that is midway between the front and rear legs located on the belly.  Nor try to milk the 2 vessle containers between such a bovines legs.
I will most definitely take that advice.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Zer0 on 27/09/2021 16:01:53
SideNote - Just wanted to Add a lil bit...

This OP's bout A&E..
But there are Other Versions..
But i Personally find the Others as Not Worthy of even mentioning.

The Bible, or Christ is atleast discussable.
👍
Rest are simply Fanatics & Fairy Tales.
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It's kinda sad that GOD is always depicted in a miraculous manner.
Prapz the Temples, Synagogues, Churches, Mosques etc etc are Not doing it Right.

I would Truly like to Believe, but prolly it's bcoz of the religious morons & buffoons that make it soo hard, next to impossible to Believe due to stoopid stories & pathetic logic.

My version is that the flight is on autopilot.
Hence it follows certain principles & laws.
But the damm Pilot is Dead!
& We gotta do sumtin bout it.
🤞

Just incase if anyone's been wondering...
Kali & Ganesh are so called or so thought off as being Divine Beings.
Kali is the Goddess of Power.
Ganesh the God of Intelligence.
(Hindu Religion)

But here's the catch...
Kali slays her own sons & chops their heads & drinks their blood.
Ganesh though unmatchable in intellect, acts quiet dumb most of the times.

Ps - Evolution may, or May Not always be Beneficial...but it is a Factual Truth!
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Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Just thinking on 27/09/2021 17:54:01
Evolution may, or May Not always be Beneficial...but it is a Factual Truth!
Very interesting but I will need a thousand years to consider.
Title: Re: Why are Adam & Eve always pictured with a belly button/navel?
Post by: Just thinking on 27/09/2021 21:09:40
My kids still find potty humor hilarious.
I get a kick out of telling my son things that would get me into trouble elsewhere but that's the pleasure of having your own. When my dad farted he would say it's going to rain the frogs are croaking.