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Covid / vaccine related heart problems - anecdotal or proven?
« on: 22/03/2022 23:11:25 »
Are stories of Covid / vaccine related heart problems simply anecdotal or are there any statistics to prove or disprove this growing belief.
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Re: Covid / vaccine related heart problems - anecdotal or proven?
« Reply #1 on: 23/03/2022 02:50:33 »
It appears there is evidence that myocarditis is associated with the COVID-19 RNA vaccination: https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj-2021-068665

The risk is still pretty low. According to that study, the average incidence rate is about 1.4 out of 100,000 people within the first 28 days of vaccination.
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Re: Covid / vaccine related heart problems - anecdotal or proven?
« Reply #2 on: 23/03/2022 08:41:35 »
The risk is reportedly highest in men around 20 years - perhaps because they have a strong immune system?

One problem with analyzing individual cases is that COVID also infects heart muscle, and can cause myorcarditis or pericarditis.
- So if someone gets myocarditis after vaccination, was it caused by the vaccine, or because they caught COVID at roughly the same time?
- Or did they get myocarditis from an unrelated cause (there were many cases every year, even before COVID)
- You really need to collect a lot of cases to separate these three categories
- Until someone invents a test to distinguish between the different causes
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Re: Covid / vaccine related heart problems - anecdotal or proven?
« Reply #3 on: 10/04/2022 12:54:57 »
Recent research from the CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7114e1.htm?s_cid=mm7114e1_e&ACSTrackingID=USCDC_921-DM79035&ACSTrackingLabel=MMWR%20Early%20Release%20-%20Vol.%2071%2C%20April%201%2C%202022&deliveryName=USCDC_921-DM79035
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Re: Covid / vaccine related heart problems - anecdotal or proven?
« Reply #4 on: 14/04/2022 19:24:47 »
yea, it does happen.i got an extremely irregular heart rhythm about 10days after Pfizer shot. the second shot didn't change things and normal rhythm returned slowly after several months. I received the booster in nov and my heart went crazy again to the extent I would not take another. I must emphasise no chest pain,no breathlessness and no apparent change in exercise tolerance occurred. I believe this is a case of the viral surface antigen released by the vaccine cross-reacting with some myocardial protein, similar to how streptococcal antigens can cause rheumatic heart disease.however if one has heart problems with the vaccine, I would expect similar or worse with a covid infection.i'm 70
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