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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: guest46746 on 11/10/2018 00:26:54
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Without the constraints of gravity light waves stretch out indefinitely.
Bosonic energy is positive, fermion energy is negative
A photon is a boson and yet it has a negative EM charge?
Being photons carrying an EM charge they bond.
What is the structure of a photonic bosonic bond? Being EM, a dipole nature says a positive to negative alliance
The only completely enclosed bonding structure of permanence then must be a circuler and spiraling in nature.
Does the bonsonic circular and spiraling link structure creates a bond that mimics gravity! lol
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Without the constraints of gravity light waves stretch out indefinitely.
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Is that not speculative? In other words, there is no confirmation (evidence) that there is any "space" devoid of gravity, No? Yes.
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Without the constraints of gravity light waves stretch out indefinitely.
Due to the metric expansion of space, perhaps, but it's not something they do on their own.
Bosonic energy is positive, fermion energy is negative
No, all energy we know of is positive (a possible exception being the energy in the space between two Casimir plates).
A photon is a boson and yet it has a negative EM charge?
No, photons are neutral.
Being photons carrying an EM charge they bond.
What is the structure of a photonic bosonic bond? Being EM, a dipole nature says a positive to negative alliance
The only completely enclosed bonding structure of permanence then must be a circuler and spiraling in nature.
Does the bonsonic circular and spiraling link structure creates a bond that mimics gravity! lol
I'm not sure what this means, but it doesn't sound like it's based on existing science.
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Due to the metric expansion of space, perhaps, but it's not something they do on their own.
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Kryptid: what is your position on the question of whether there is any "space" devoid of gravity, by which I mean the effects of gravity?
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I'm not sure what this means, but it doesn't sound like it's based on existing science.
I'm not sure what this means, but it doesn't sound like it's based on existing science.
A weak laser light photograph via a double slit experiment, I see circular and spiraling patterns! lol
www.sps.ch/en/articles/progresses/wave_particle_duality_of_light_for_the_classroom_13/
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Kryptid: what is your position on the question of whether there is any "space" devoid of gravity, by which I mean the effects of gravity?
As best as anyone can tell, gravity has an infinite range. So no, there is no space devoid of gravity.
A weak laser light photograph via a double slit experiment, I see circular and spiraling patterns! lol
www.sps.ch/en/articles/progresses/wave_particle_duality_of_light_for_the_classroom_13/
I don't see any circular or spiraling patterns. I see vertical bars. The double slit experiment doesn't have anything to do with photons "bonding" anyway.
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If bodies in space/time via gravity attract one another, the expansion of the Universe seems to dispute/contradict that the force of gravity is ubitquitous to all space/time. The Light mass of the Universe is dispersing. Certainly, "Black matter" and other factors plays a role in this dispersal but to state that gravity exist in regions of space that seem to repel its influences maybe premature! lol
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So what we observe is that light has traveled 14 billion years of time/space, in a hostile Black matter environment, through vast expanses were little Mass exist to provide gravity to keep it intact. Light being bosonic in nature is employing a bonding structure to provide it's quantum gravity. If we are observing distance light as a straight shot, it's an indication that external gravitational forces have not altered its trajectory. Science backtracks Cosmic rays to their point of origin in deep space. Do they calculate a geodesic trajectory when they do so inferring gravity, or do they calculate the acceleration of time/space without gravitational effects to point to an origin for cosmic rays? lol
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I don't see any circular or spiraling patterns. I see vertical bars. The double slit experiment doesn't have anything to do with photons "bonding" anyway.
The slit experiment has flaws! It matters not that it was conducted for other purposes. Much can be gleamed from a flawed experiment! lol
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What is "Bosonic energy"?
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If bodies in space/time via gravity attract one another, the expansion of the Universe seems to dispute/contradict that the force of gravity is ubitquitous to all space/time.
No it doesn't. You're not taking into account that gravity becomes weaker with the square of the distance. Over millions of light-years, it's extremely weak and is easily overwhelmed by other forces (such as the metric expansion of space).
The Light mass of the Universe is dispersing.
What is "light mass"? What do you mean by "dispersing"?
Certainly, "Black matter" and other factors plays a role in this dispersal
Do you mean dark matter?
but to state that gravity exist in regions of space that seem to repel its influences maybe premature! lol
See my first statement above.
So what we observe is that light has traveled 14 billion years of time/space, in a hostile Black matter environment, through vast expanses were little Mass exist to provide gravity to keep it intact.
Gravity doesn't hold light intact.
Light being bosonic in nature is employing a bonding structure to provide it's quantum gravity.
Please give a link to an authoritative source to support this statement.
If we are observing distance light as a straight shot, it's an indication that external gravitational forces have not altered its trajectory. Science backtracks Cosmic rays to their point of origin in deep space. Do they calculate a geodesic trajectory when they do so inferring gravity, or do they calculate the acceleration of time/space without gravitational effects to point to an origin for cosmic rays? lol
I don't think anyone assumes that light or cosmic rays travel without at least some distortion of their path due to gravity. In most cases, however, it would be very small because any given beam of light or cosmic rays would be unlikely to pass very close to a strong source of gravity. The exception to this would be gravitational lenses.
The slit experiment has flaws! It matters not that it was conducted for other purposes. Much can be gleamed from a flawed experiment! lol
That doesn't change the fact that I don't see any circular or spiraling patterns like you claim there are.
Why do you say "lol" after each post?
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Quote from: Pesqueira on Yesterday at 21:34:18If bodies in space/time via gravity attract one another, the expansion of the Universe seems to dispute/contradict that the force of gravity is ubitquitous to all space/time.
No it doesn't. You're not taking into account that gravity becomes weaker with the square of the distance. Over millions of light-years, it's extremely weak and is easily overwhelmed by other forces (such as the metric expansion of space).
You state this as fact! lol
QuoteThe Light mass of the Universe is dispersing.What is "light mass"? What do you mean by "dispersing"?
Dispersing as in the classical view of the expanding Universe! lol
Quote Certainly, "Black matter" and other factors plays a role in this dispersal
Do you mean dark matter?
Yes, unfortunately my editing ability for minor discrepancies is a factor. I depend or the readers maturity to adjust for such minor errors. Specifically those that can delete or edit their posts ay will! lol
Quote but to state that gravity exist in regions of space that seem to repel its influences maybe premature! lol
See my first statement above.
no need! lol
Quote from: Pesqueira on Yesterday at 21:58:29So what we observe is that light has traveled 14 billion years of time/space, in a hostile Black matter environment, through vast expanses were little Mass exist to provide gravity to keep it intact.
Gravity doesn't hold light intact.
It doesn't? intact, def. - not damaged or impaired in any way; complete! lol
Quote Light being bosonic in nature is employing a bonding structure to provide it's quantum gravity.
Please give a link to an authoritative source to support this statement.
Cherenkov radiation provides an indirect proof! lol
Quote If we are observing distance light as a straight shot, it's an indication that external gravitational forces have not altered its trajectory. Science backtracks Cosmic rays to their point of origin in deep space. Do they calculate a geodesic trajectory when they do so inferring gravity, or do they calculate the acceleration of time/space without gravitational effects to point to an origin for cosmic rays? lol
I don't think anyone assumes that light or cosmic rays travel without at least some distortion of their path due to gravity. In most cases, however, it would be very small because any given beam of light or cosmic rays would be unlikely to pass very close to a strong source of gravity. The exception to this would be gravitational lenses
Your omitting of space/time acceleration is an error, couldn't resist my urge at immaturity! loli
.Quote from: Pesqueira on Yesterday at 22:04:12The slit experiment has flaws! It matters not that it was conducted for other purposes. Much can be gleamed from a flawed experiment! lol
That doesn't change the fact that I don't see any circular or spiraling patterns like you claim there are.Why do you say "lol" after each post?
You are welcome to your opinion! lol
LOL is a response to those that hold and defend classical views of unsupported hypothesis while at the same time lacking any personal intuitions. no offense! lol
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What is "Bosonic energy"?
Bosonic energy in the case of Photonic light are the free electrons that are present providing charge.
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I can see that you're not taking this discussion seriously. I'll not waste my time with further replies.
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Science backtracks Cosmic rays to their point of origin in deep space
No, they can't.
That is because cosmic rays are charged nuclei, whose path is bent by the magnetic field of the galaxy (and, closer to home, the Sun).
The Auger cosmic ray observatory gives a good idea of the energy, and arrival direction of cosmic rays. However, recent analysis suggests that this direction is indistinguishable from a random distribution over the sky, so it can't pinpoint their origin (despite earlier hints that there may have been an association with Active Galactic Nuclei).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Auger_Observatory#Results
However, optical and neutrino telescopes can identify the direction of a source, as these particles are neutral, and not deflected by magnetic or electric fields (they are slightly deflected by gravitational fields, ie gravitational lensing).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IceCube_Neutrino_Observatory
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Bosonic energy in the case of Photonic light are the free electrons that are present providing charge.
OK, without resorting to word salad...
What is "Bosonic energy"?
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No, they can't.That is because cosmic rays are charged nuclei, whose path is bent by the magnetic field of the galaxy (and, closer to home, the Sun).The Auger cosmic ray observatory gives a good idea of the energy, and arrival direction of cosmic rays. However, recent analysis suggests that this direction is indistinguishable from a random distribution over the sky, so it can't pinpoint their origin (despite earlier hints that there may have been an association with Active Galactic Nuclei).https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Auger_Observatory#ResultsHowever, optical and neutrino telescopes can identify the direction of a source, as these particles are neutral, and not deflected by magnetic or electric fields (they are slightly deflected by gravitational fields, ie gravitational lensing).https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IceCube_Neutrino_Observatory
So your answer is that
no they can't
maybe they can
yes they can
Could you have given a more definitive answer? lol
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Quote from: Pesqueira on 12/10/2018 19:21:35Bosonic energy in the case of Photonic light are the free electrons that are present providing charge.OK, without resorting to word salad...Quote from: Bored chemist on 11/10/2018 22:04:23What is "Bosonic energy"?
Bosonic energy consist of field , spin and charge. Does a Photon have a field? yes. Does a Photon have spin. yes a spin of 1. Does a Photon have a charge? I would call free electrons a charge, it may not be a typical quantum charge but quantum is not easily classified in quanta. lol
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Does a Photon have a charge?
No, it does not.
Also, you forgot to answer my question.
What is "Bosonic energy"?