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Quote from: puppypower on Yesterday at 11:15:31Both are expressed in the pH affect.Not really.Rather than posting reams of obvious stuff (we know the water is there, and we know it behaves weirdly), perhaps you could actually answer this.Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/03/2021 12:33:19Quote from: puppypower on 23/03/2021 11:09:14, I started a parallel water analysis,What did you actually do?
Is this a "water is inherant to all life including aliens" post? Water is very good as a refrigerant to the temperature we are used to, its latent heat is rather high, it is lighter in solid hexagonal form than its liquid meaning it floats at a pressure on a planet with gravity enough to hold an atmosphere meaning it floats rather than sinking, it has a humongous heat capacity to act as a buffer. Plus it seems to be fairly abundant.
Rather than posting reams of obvious stuff (we know the water is there, and we know it behaves weirdly), perhaps you could actually answer this.Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/03/2021 12:33:19Quote from: puppypower on 23/03/2021 11:09:14, I started a parallel water analysis,What did you actually do?
Quote from: Bored chemist on 24/03/2021 12:24:00Rather than posting reams of obvious stuff (we know the water is there, and we know it behaves weirdly), perhaps you could actually answer this.Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/03/2021 12:33:19Quote from: puppypower on 23/03/2021 11:09:14, I started a parallel water analysis,What did you actually do?
Quote from: Bored chemist on 25/03/2021 10:30:01Quote from: Bored chemist on 24/03/2021 12:24:00Rather than posting reams of obvious stuff (we know the water is there, and we know it behaves weirdly), perhaps you could actually answer this.Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/03/2021 12:33:19Quote from: puppypower on 23/03/2021 11:09:14, I started a parallel water analysis,What did you actually do?
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It is not clear what you are asking.
I have already discussed this as being connected to the magnetic heavy side of oxygen,...
Chemistry is more settled science, so that area was good to have under my belt,
I decided to develop a theory that one could model a cell using just the hydrogen bonding
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 24/03/2021 23:14:30Is this a "water is inherant to all life including aliens" post? Water is very good as a refrigerant to the temperature we are used to, its latent heat is rather high, it is lighter in solid hexagonal form than its liquid meaning it floats at a pressure on a planet with gravity enough to hold an atmosphere meaning it floats rather than sinking, it has a humongous heat capacity to act as a buffer. Plus it seems to be fairly abundant. All speculation about alien life in water or any other solvent is speculation, since there is no hard evidence of any such life. The only hard evidence is connected to life on earth which uses water. When others propose other solvents for life, since DNA does not work in any of the proposed solvents, they will need to also supply, at the very least, an alternate template material. This is never done. This gets a pass, simply to appease benefactor for continued funding.
Quote from: puppypower on 26/03/2021 13:00:35I have already discussed this as being connected to the magnetic heavy side of oxygen,...Which is still word salad.
Quote from: puppypower on 26/03/2021 12:59:56It is not clear what you are asking. I suspect you are the only one who thinks that.It really isn't difficult.What did you actually do?You say you "I started a parallel water analysis,"Well, what analysis did you undertake and in what way was it "parallel"?Did you actually start it?Had someone actually done it before?I suspect the answer is that you didn't really do anything; you didn't even bother to learn what is already known; you just wrote some nonsense on web pages.But feel free to tell us all what you actually did.
I am trying to teach first, and impress, last.
Oxygen can hold two more electrons that it has nucleus protons. For this charge instability to remain stable, we need to include the offsetting magnetic fields from the two extra electrons, as they move about the oxygen nucleus, within the 3-D (Px,Py,Pz) magnetic fields set up by 2p-orbitals. Charge and electrostatic forces alone cannot explain how oxygen can do this. You need to factor in the extra magnetic force. I call it magnetic heavy. I thought that was a good memory peg. I am going to stick with it
Quote from: puppypower on 27/03/2021 12:42:25Oxygen can hold two more electrons that it has nucleus protons. For this charge instability to remain stable, we need to include the offsetting magnetic fields from the two extra electrons, as they move about the oxygen nucleus, within the 3-D (Px,Py,Pz) magnetic fields set up by 2p-orbitals. Charge and electrostatic forces alone cannot explain how oxygen can do this. You need to factor in the extra magnetic force. I call it magnetic heavy. I thought that was a good memory peg. I am going to stick with itThe formation of the oxide ion has northing to do with magnetism.You are talking bollocks.
A charge in motion will create a magnetic field, while a magnetic field will follow the right hand rule, where the thumb, index finger and middle finger pointed in x,y,z directions, represent the current direction, magnetic field direction and the magnetic force that is created. I forget which finger is which.In the case of the p-orbital geometry, all the magnetic forces of the right hand rule can complement each other in 3-D, via the six p-electrons electrons. This can bind the electrons, including the two extra electrons, with a strong additive magnetic force. We may not see the magnetic force since the cancelling magnetic waves are so efficient in 3-D.
The fact that charge is out of balance, yet oxide is stable, implies it has to be magnetic to overcome electrostatic.
There is no other explanation.
The driving force is an electron in motion; electrons moving between the Calcium metal and oxygen atom, creates a magnetic field.
This means these electrons begin with opposite spin that will magnetically attract to other; two wires with opposite currents. However, the oxygen by placing these in her 2p-orbitals can create a super stable 3-dimensional wire situation, that has 6 currents and 6 wires
I am trying to develop the water side of life, using accepted principles,
Hydrogen bonding is a more of a specialty thing for states of life.