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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: tommya300 on 06/10/2010 19:02:40
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Can Gravity be considered an endless Super Electrostatic charge that has no place close to discharge?
I have difficulty visualizing some ghostly scientific phenomena.
Gravity an uncertain certainty, where ever you are there it is!
Micro or not, no matter where you go on earth, some heavenly or unearthly mass has an act of some gravity.
Have patience with me, before you dismiss the idea, as I walk through my thoughts and express them.
Accretion, I was corrected at an earlier date when I said it was by chance, gathering of mass to form a planet, for instance, is caused by the electrostatic attraction of material!
Is this static charge caused by the materials mass moving across a void type medium called the Fabric of Space?
Even though the Fabric of Space is not proven to be a substance it is apparently dry, the caused attraction is something similar to shuffling a balloon on the surface of your hair, pointing out the only one important difference is that the balloon has a short path of travel with respect to the gathering materials, having an unlimited amount of travel, of course the Fabric of Space.
This would explain, Dark Energy hidden in the voids of the Fabric of Space, it is hidden because there is some difficulty measuring the potential difference.
As this material gathers together, the gathering static force also increases.
The static charge is maintained as it continues travel in the void of space.
With enough of the amount material mass gathers, the static charge hits a threshold that becomes great enough to have a definite and almost even inward force that can act on changing the materials shape.
This force is called gravity.
What happened to the electrostatic charge attraction?
Why has this force been called gravity?
I think it is called gravity so it will not be confused with electrostatic charge.
I see Gravity as an Electrostatic component, strongest at its surface, of the planets AC magnetic field surrounding the now spherical shaped orb.
That would explain gravitational lensing, that light is electromagnetic and so a constant super electrostatic charge affects it.
Is it fact or fiction that a constant electrostatic force affects radio waves? Associate this to light waves.
The massive black hole super duper constant electrostatic charge having affect on light that has an acceleration equal to light speed attempting to reach it but the mass of the black hole is being ejected out at each pole of the electromagnetic bottle type field, which compensated the mass, similar to squeezing a banana out of its skin, preventing the electrostatic charge from increasing to the force that would supersede light speed.
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Accretion, I was corrected at an earlier date when I said it was by chance, gathering of mass to form a planet, for instance, is caused by the electrostatic attraction of material!
Is this static charge caused by the materials mass moving across a void type medium called the Fabric of Space?
Interesting................This fabric you talk about is the universal field. It has been stated by several capable physicists that:
"There is no space empty of field."
What you propose is interesting; By suggesting that gravity is an accumulation of static charge caused by matter moving thru this field is certainly imaginative. But it dosen't seem to explain all of the observed influences of gravity. From what I understand, the electrostatic charge doesn't bend space the way gravity does. That is unless you have information that I haven't had opportunity to view as yet. However, the idea that matter interacting with this universal field and imparting static charge to it's mass is quite interesting none the less.
..................Ethos
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Wow never thought of it that way. Could the magnitude increase of the static charge on the mass as the mass grows, and become large enough to evolve into gravity?
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Accretion, I was corrected at an earlier date when I said it was by chance, gathering of mass to form a planet, for instance, is caused by the electrostatic attraction of material!
Is this static charge caused by the materials mass moving across a void type medium called the Fabric of Space?
Interesting................This fabric you talk about is the universal field. It has been stated by several capable physicists that:
"There is no space empty of field."
What you propose is interesting; By suggesting that gravity is an accumulation of static charge caused by matter moving thru this field is certainly imaginative. But it dosen't seem to explain all of the observed influences of gravity. From what I understand, the electrostatic charge doesn't bend space the way gravity does. That is unless you have information that I haven't had opportunity to view as yet. However, the idea that matter interacting with this universal field and imparting static charge to it's mass is quite interesting none the less.
..................Ethos
Thank Ethos... I was wondering what happens to the static charge as the mass grows.
How big matter has to be before gravity is detected and the static charge attraction disapears?
Is this subject that extreme that it is ignored or is it me?
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Accretion, I was corrected at an earlier date when I said it was by chance, gathering of mass to form a planet, for instance, is caused by the electrostatic attraction of material!
Is this static charge caused by the materials mass moving across a void type medium called the Fabric of Space?
Interesting................This fabric you talk about is the universal field. It has been stated by several capable physicists that:
"There is no space empty of field."
What you propose is interesting; By suggesting that gravity is an accumulation of static charge caused by matter moving thru this field is certainly imaginative. But it dosen't seem to explain all of the observed influences of gravity. From what I understand, the electrostatic charge doesn't bend space the way gravity does. That is unless you have information that I haven't had opportunity to view as yet. However, the idea that matter interacting with this universal field and imparting static charge to it's mass is quite interesting none the less.
..................Ethos
Ethos isn't it that gravity bends spacetime not just space?
In ballistics as an example gravity acting on spacetime the travel of matter's path over time is curved.
On a smaller magnatude, water flowing from a faucet can be deflected using electrostatic charge.
Matter's path of travel over time being is curved.
Just an association that may be interesting also...
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Ethos isn't it that gravity bends spacetime not just space?
Yes, absolutely. I have to catch myself often when using the term "space". As you have suggested, when we talk about space, we should more often than not, refer to it as "space/time". The two should be viewed and understood as joined, one to the other.
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This is a theory I have had for many years. The first agrees with matter collecting in space due to static attraction. Then then secound is that each layer of the isolates this charge thus creating its own charge due to its own movement against space or its previous layer. thus making the next layer. (Yes many other calculations are at play to form a planet ) but each layer magnifies the next they also filter due to the fact that most layers are non conductive. Thus creating gravity ! a filtered static charge.
Sorry if left things out I am very nervous I have never shared with any one but my dad and brother .
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I found this thread and thought i'd way in even though it is quite old. Consider two types of graviton. One having a positive electrostatic charge and the other a negative electrostatic charge. The positive is stronger than the negative and the waves alternate as positive, negative, positive then negative. It can be shown that this arrangement can have an overall effect on mass that pushes it in the opposite direction to the direction of travel of the gravitational waves.
Just my two penneth.
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relativity says that space and time are one because of the observation of masses bending gravity and that fact that time speeds up the faster you travel. But if something has a higher energy it could possibly do the same thing. relativity is still a theory after all so it should not be spoken of as empirical fact. I see no reason why the movement of the atmosphere and ocean's can't generate an electrostatic force which could cause the appearance of gravity. Any motion of fluid could create an electrostatic charge. Also if energy has mass as relativity states then shouldn't light have mass?....and heat......
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relativity says that space and time are one because of the observation of masses bending gravity and that fact that time speeds up the faster you travel. But if something has a higher energy it could possibly do the same thing. relativity is still a theory after all so it should not be spoken of as empirical fact. I see no reason why the movement of the atmosphere and ocean's can't generate an electrostatic force which could cause the appearance of gravity. Any motion of fluid could create an electrostatic charge. Also if energy has mass as relativity states then shouldn't light have mass?....and heat......
The view that I stated above is blatantly wrong. Do not take it as valid. That was quite a while ago.
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What I find more interesting than these theories without basis is the intricacies of actual physics.
Just saying.
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cool well go study the THEORY of relativity or the 11 dimensional super gravity and see if that makes more sense or maybe quantum chromodynamics.........
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Can Gravity be considered an endless Super Electrostatic charge....?
No.
Electrostatic charges come in 2 flavours: + and -.
"Like charges repel, and different charges attract", as we were taught in high school.
Gravity only comes in 1 flavour, and it only attracts (as far as we know).
In our Solar system, consisting of the Sun, 8 planets, hundreds of moons and zillions of smaller bodies (including man-made satellites), they all attract each other. That's how NASA plays precision billiard balls with gravitational slingshot to get space probes to go where they want, when they want.
If gravity were electrostatic in nature, a space probe would be attracted to about half of the objects in the Solar system, and repelled from the others. This does not happen.
Gravity is not based on Electrostatic charges.
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Can Gravity be considered an endless Super Electrostatic charge....?
No.
Electrostatic charges come in 2 flavours: + and -.
"Like charges repel, and different charges attract", as we were taught in high school.
Gravity only comes in 1 flavour, and it only attracts (as far as we know).
In our Solar system, consisting of the Sun, 8 planets, hundreds of moons and zillions of smaller bodies (including man-made satellites), they all attract each other. That's how NASA plays precision billiard balls with gravitational slingshot to get space probes to go where they want, when they want.
If gravity were electrostatic in nature, a space probe would be attracted to about half of the objects in the Solar system, and repelled from the others. This does not happen.
Gravity is not based on Electrostatic charges.
I disagree, the only known process of a body that has any sort of attractive properties is opposite charges attract.
The fields surrounding bodies are not polarised to + or -, they are q1+q2=N
Can Gravity be considered an endless Super Electrostatic charge
Not really because gravity does have an ''end'' , it can be considered as the combination of charge of an electrostatic field or likewise.
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I disagree, the only known process of a body that has any sort of attractive properties is opposite charges attract.
(1) In the strong nuclear force, like charges attract like charges, hence why protons and neutrons attract each other in an atomic nucleus (both types of particles have +1 "hypercharge").
(2) The Casimir effect is an attractive force between two metal plates in a vacuum, although the two plates do not have opposite charges.
(3) Gravity itself, obviously, as positive masses attract other positive masses.