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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: Yusup Hizirov on 12/08/2018 20:04:46
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Amphidromic point - I believe this is the center of the maelstrom
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphidromic_point
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_gyre
http://www.freegrab.net/Tide%20waves.gif
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You lost me? The Nordic maelstrom (Norway)
Or something else?
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Maybe the question should be, in what way do your opinion differ from the physics defined?
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Amphidromic point - I believe this is the center of the maelstrom
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphidromic_point
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_gyre
No, the amphidromic point is a null of wave motion not currents. Currents do not circulate around an amphidromic point but across it.
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What is an amphidromic point?
There is an introduction here (but ignore the last 2 minutes - he fantasises that tides are caused by undersea life...):
Note that Fremantle in Western Australia is an amphidromic point, which answers your previous question as to why Fremantle has periods with no tide.
Also note that there are different amphidromic points for the different drivers of tidal motion representing 1 tide per day or 2 tides per day. The total tidal range is due to the sum of these different tides around the various amphidromic points.
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Amphidromic point - I believe this is the center of the maelstrom
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphidromic_point
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_gyre
Currents do not circulate around an amphidromic point but across it.
Wikipedia: Sometimes these points are called tidal nodes: a tidal wave "runs through" this point around or counter-clockwise.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Амфидромическая_точка
http://www.freegrab.net/Tide%20waves.gif
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Currents do not circulate around an amphidromic point but across it.
Sometimes these points are called tidal nodes: a tidal wave "runs through" this point around or counter-clockwise.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Амфидромическая_точка
Tidal waves do not "run through" these points because they are nulls for the principle tidal constituent so there is almost no vertical movement from tidal action at these points.
They are not the centre of currents, whirlpools or maelstroms of any description.
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Currents do not circulate around an amphidromic point but across it.
Sometimes these points are called tidal nodes: a tidal wave "runs through" this point around or counter-clockwise.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Амфидромическая_точка
Tidal waves do not "run through" these points because they are nulls for the principle tidal constituent so there is almost no vertical movement from tidal action at these points.
They are not the centre of currents, whirlpools or maelstroms of any description.
This information is taken from Russian Wikipedia. Perhaps it was written under the influence of the whirlpool theory of tides.
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Currents do not circulate around an amphidromic point but across it.
Sometimes these points are called tidal nodes: a tidal wave "runs through" this point around or counter-clockwise.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Амфидромическая_точка
Tidal waves do not "run through" these points because they are nulls for the principle tidal constituent so there is almost no vertical movement from tidal action at these points.
They are not the centre of currents, whirlpools or maelstroms of any description.
This information is taken from Russian Wikipedia. Perhaps it was written under the influence of the whirlpool theory of tides.
The 'whirlpool theory of tides' is your construct. It is not a theory that is accepted by anybody else. It is nonsense.
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Currents do not circulate around an amphidromic point but across it.
Sometimes these points are called tidal nodes: a tidal wave "runs through" this point around or counter-clockwise.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Амфидромическая_точка
Tidal waves do not "run through" these points because they are nulls for the principle tidal constituent so there is almost no vertical movement from tidal action at these points.
They are not the centre of currents, whirlpools or maelstroms of any description.
This information is taken from Russian Wikipedia. Perhaps it was written under the influence of the whirlpool theory of tides.
The 'whirlpool theory of tides' is your construct. It is not a theory that is accepted by anybody else. It is nonsense.
Please give an objective criticism, this is your third question, which I can not answer.
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Currents do not circulate around an amphidromic point but across it.
Sometimes these points are called tidal nodes: a tidal wave "runs through" this point around or counter-clockwise.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Амфидромическая_точка
Tidal waves do not "run through" these points because they are nulls for the principle tidal constituent so there is almost no vertical movement from tidal action at these points.
They are not the centre of currents, whirlpools or maelstroms of any description.
This information is taken from Russian Wikipedia. Perhaps it was written under the influence of the whirlpool theory of tides.
The 'whirlpool theory of tides' is your construct. It is not a theory that is accepted by anybody else. It is nonsense.
Please give an objective criticism, this is your third question, which I can not answer.
It is not a question but a statement. It basicalky states that you are making things up that do not bear scrutiny.
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This information is taken from Russian Wikipedia. Perhaps it was written under the influence of the whirlpool theory of tides.
This is a Google translate of the page you linked to:
“The amphidromic point (from the Greek ἀμφί - around and δρόμος - running) is the point in the ocean where the amplitude of the tidal wave is zero. The height of the tide increases with distance from the amphidromic point. Sometimes these points are called nodes of tides: a tidal wave "runs around" this point around by or counter-clockwise. At these points, the cotidal lines converge.
Amphidromic points arise due to interference of the primary tidal wave and its reflections from the shoreline and underwater obstacles. The Coriolis force also contributes.”
Please point to the section that says tidal wave ‘runs through’ this point or to the section that states that currents/whirlpools circulate around the point.
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Sometimes these points are called nodes of tides: a tidal wave "runs around" this point around by or counter-clockwise.
Watch the video
http://www.freegrab.net/Tide%20waves.gif
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Amphidromic points arise due to interference of the primary tidal wave and its reflections from the shoreline
Who saw it, it's just ordinary tides.
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Sometimes these points are called nodes of tides: a tidal wave "runs around" this point around by or counter-clockwise.
Watch the video
http://www.freegrab.net/Tide%20waves.gif
Yes, the video shows my point clearly. The tidal wave runs around the amphidromic point not through, and there are no whirlpools, just waves.
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Sometimes these points are called nodes of tides: a tidal wave "runs around" this point around by or counter-clockwise.
Watch the video
http://www.freegrab.net/Tide%20waves.gif
Yes, the video shows my point clearly. The tidal wave runs around the amphidromic point not through, and there are no whirlpools, just waves.
Here we say one thing, in different "languages".
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Here we say one thing, in different "languages".
No
A whirlpool is a rotating current.
The wave going round a point is not the same thing.
Why are you unable to grasp this distinction?
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Who can tell where on this animation the amphidic point is. It seems that the amphidromic point is flying over the Mediterranean Sea.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphidromic_point
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Who can tell where on this animation the amphidic point is.
Why would you assume there is one?
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How much you know, write so much.
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How much you know, write so much.
You need to start deleting posts then.
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The answer is accepted as defeat.
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The answer is accepted as defeat.
That's an interesting idea.
You forgot to answer.
Here's the question again.
Who can tell where on this animation the amphidic point is.
Why would you assume there is one?
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Who can tell where this animation has amphid points. It seems that the amphidromic points fly over the Mediterranean Sea.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphidromic_point
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Who can tell where this animation has amphid points. It seems that the amphidromic points fly over the Mediterranean Sea.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphidromic_point
No.
Not all bodies of water will have an amphidromic point.
Why do you assume that the Mediterranean sea has one?
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This animation has its mistakes, it's incorrectly composed.
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This animation has its mistakes, it's incorrectly composed.
Why did you post it then?
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Check if you notice any errors or not.
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Check if you notice any errors or not.
Yes, I have noticed many errors. The one you repeat most often is the assertion that the tides are not driven (mainly) by the Moon.
You also seem to keep repeating the mistake that the Mediterranean sea has an amphidromic point.
There's also this error of yours@
No
A whirlpool is a rotating current.
The wave going round a point is not the same thing.
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You also seem to keep repeating the mistake that the Mediterranean sea has an amphidromic point.
This is already too much.
Maybe you change the answer.
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Maybe you change the answer.
I can't change the fact that the Moon drives the tide.
I can't change the tides in the Med.
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I can't change the fact that the Moon drives the tide.
This theme is called an amphidromic point.
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I can't change the tides in the Med.
Among the things I can't change is that there is no amphidromic point in the Med.
You can't change that either.
So, let's look at things we might change.
Can you change your belief that there is an amphidromic point in the Med?
Can you change your policy of not explaining why you think there should be one?
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Amphidromic point - I believe this is the center of the maelstrom
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphidromic_point
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_gyre
http://www.freegrab.net/Tide%20waves.gif
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I believe this is the center of the maelstrom
It doesn't matter much what you believe it means.
Why do you think the Med should have one?
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You have entered a pure flame.
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You have entered a pure flame.
You have left the world of sensible debate.
What are you doing on a discussion forum?