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Title: Is injecting air bubbles an undetectable means of murder?
Post by: @CarlLegge on 06/11/2010 05:30:02
@CarlLegge asked the Naked Scientists:
   
Dr Eleanor Stride said injecting bubbles often thought of as undetectable murder; is it?

What do you think?
Title: Is injecting air bubbles an undetectable means of murder?
Post by: Don_1 on 06/11/2010 14:34:41
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I don't know how many or big air bubbles would have to be to have the desired effect, if you can call it 'desired'. But any forensic scientist would examine the skin before delving into the corpse to establish the cause of death, so puncture marks from the hypodemic nurdle hypodermic needle would be noted. The subsequent lack of evidence from a toxicology report would suggest some shenanigans and I would think pumping air into the blood would be the prime suspect.

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Title: Is injecting air bubbles an undetectable means of murder?
Post by: Bored chemist on 06/11/2010 17:40:27
If it was undetectable, they wouldn't know about it.
Title: Is injecting air bubbles an undetectable means of murder?
Post by: chris on 06/11/2010 18:04:24
The pathologist would definitely note a skin puncture when performing their initial surface examination at the start of the PM. But in a patient already undergoing vascular access procedures - such as giving blood, being given IV drugs and so on - such marks would be expected. A large air bolus injected intravascularly could cause significant vascular compromise and would be hard to detect at post mortem.

Chris
Title: Is injecting air bubbles an undetectable means of murder?
Post by: JnA on 07/11/2010 08:23:29
it would have to be pretty big surely? 


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