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Non Life Sciences => Geek Speak => Topic started by: Karen W. on 09/02/2009 00:46:41
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I have a Netgear 54 MBPS WIRELESS router WGR 614.
I have a BELKIN Wireless G DESKOP CARD
When my internet was hooked up to my computer the router was on my computer where the main line came in and the desktop card was inserted into my Robs computer...in another room.... My computer friend set it up.. worked great !
Since then.. financial constraints I stoppd my internet service on my cpu and my daughter has moved home... she had service set up on hers so I removed the card from Robs computer and plugged my Router into her computer where the main service now entered....I then installed the belkin cad to my computer which has a lenox system which was different then Robs...
roblem now bing the card is not recognising the router and is asking for a passphrase.I tried the original...but it is not working.....do I need to set a new one on the router end....or what....???
I am Very confused! Could someone help me make it work......?
Thanks in advance!
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roblem now bing the card is not recognising the router and is asking for a passphrase.I tried the original...but it is not working.....do I need to set a new one on the router end....or what....???
The card must be seeing the router if it is asking for username and password. I think the Netgear router is shipped with the word "admin" as the username and no password. Then the user usually changes that to suit themselves.
There is a reset button on the router that you can push to place it back into its original setup. But this is from memory and I mess with a lot of different routers, so it would be good to look at the documentation for that router.
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If I understand what you've done correctly, it's good that you are being prompted for a passphrase to connect to the router via the wireless card now fitted inside your computer. If you weren't being prompted for a passphrase it would mean that anyone could connect to the wireless router and not only use it's internet connection but possibly also start messing around with your computers.
I get the impression, although I'm not absolutely sure, that the router is connected to one of the computers via a wired link, either ethernet or USB. If so, then what you need to do is to go to that PC and log in to the router itself (via a web-browser). This may (hopefully) need a userID/password combination. Once you've connected to the router you should see a sort of web-page where you can check or change the router settings, one of which will be the passphrase that allows wireless network cards to connect to it.
If you find that a UserID/password combination is needed to log in to the router and you don't know what it is you'll have to reset the router as Vern suggests. On the domestic routers with which I've had experience, I've needed to insert a thin probe i.e. a straightened paper-clip in to a small 'reset' hole on the back of the router for 5-7 seconds to reset the router to it's factory settings - you'll need to check the manual for your router to find out exactly how to reset it. If you can't find the manual you should be able to download a copy from the manufacturer's web-site.
Once you've reset your router you should then be able to log in to it. It may or may not need a password for the initial log-in after resetting it, which might be 'admin' as Vern suggests, or it might be the serial number, or there may be a password/number stuck to the router somewhere; this should be made clear in the manual. Once you've got in to the router you should then be able to set the passphrase that you enter when you're adding new computers to the list that are allowed to use the router.
Edited to correct a couple of typos.
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Thanks Lee I will check all these things and see what I can do. Than you very much!
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I still have had no luck.. I think I need to call Damien! LOl..I am baffled! Thanks guys!
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Yep, you should talk to him, he might have locked your netcard via its mac number.
Questions you should ask is
1.Did he change the default password assigned to the router. And do you know it?
If he didn't anyone goggling for the default password can go in on your router and lock you out. You can find the default password in the manual further down.
2. Did he close the SSID?
The sole function of SSID is to identify and prevent confusion of wireless networks. and if you don't want to advertise your router to 'crackers' that should be closed.
3.Did he create a MAC filtering for your netcard?
MAC filtering works by allowing devices which have its address entered into the allowed list and denying those that are not in the list.
4. what is the protocol used for secure transmission on the router.
If it is WEP change it to WPA or (better) WPA2
All of those settings are done inside the router so you need access to it.
The address to come in to a netgear router is normally 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.2.1 (log in address) If those IP numbers is incorrect look in the manual (PDF) further down it will be there.
Also... Disconnect it from all electricity for three minutes and connect it again before you try that.
firewalls can also block wireless, so turn off the firewall.
If the laptop connects, you will have to tell the firewall to accept it.
Lastly you can try a wired connection to the wireless router from your PC if you can't access it wirelessly. Then you should bypass the password if I remember rightly.
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"The MAC address cloning setting is hidden; curiously, you can access it only by telling the wizard that your ISP does not require a login and password.
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(If your ISP blocks any device that has a MAC address different than that of the computer you first signed on with, you need MAC address cloning or your router can't log in.)
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The other oversight, and it's a bad one, is that the whole setup procedure tells you nothing at all about wireless security other than admonishing you to create a unique SSID.
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Fortunately, Netgear's HTML Resource Manual is quite complete and includes plenty of its own advice about security. It also does a much better job than most manuals do at pointing to specific features offered by the router's configuration software, with plenty of screenshots to remove all doubt. A wireless primer in an appendix and a separate manual explaining PC networking round out this very complete package.
Here you can download the manual Karen. It should be your model but check for 'KWGR614' on it
ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/KWGR614_manual.pdf
WGR? near enough I think :)
But this seems to be the right manual for WGR and you too then
http://kbserver.netgear.com/pdf/wgr614v6_ref_man_20Apr05.pdf
And this is the way to create an almost unbreakable password for your router Karen.
Create a strange but interesting story f ex.
onceiwasoutandrodeagreenhorsethathadlostonelegwecalledhimthetriangleasheonlycouldjumpuppanddown.
That one will be a very hard nut to crack, and, you can make the story even longer too:)
This type of password have been tested by one of the best hackers in Sweden without him being able to crack it:)
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Test basic connectivity with ping, Check with nmap if the ports are open (20 and 21). Check if a firewall is restricting traffic to the server.
May be these steps help you in fixing your problem.
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NOTE
An old mishap of binding is forgetting
To receive, something must transmit
To transmit, something must receive
So both should be in a state of attempting actual throughput!