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Non Life Sciences => Geology, Palaeontology & Archaeology => Topic started by: bonsaikitten on 05/10/2006 16:35:44

Title: Help identifying strange find!
Post by: bonsaikitten on 05/10/2006 16:35:44
Hi,

Whilst walking recently (Nottingham, UK), I found what appears to be a large fossilised 'face' in a piece of sandstone. The geol. map of the area identifies this rock as Carboniferous in age.

The 'face' is humanoid, with large eyes and a protruding nose. measures 30cm long by 20cm wide.

Can anyone tell me if this could be ab early homonid, maybe an austrolopithicine?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Help identifying strange find!
Post by: sharkeyandgeorge on 05/10/2006 17:15:11
any chance of a photo?
Title: Re: Help identifying strange find!
Post by: ROBERT on 05/10/2006 17:49:16
Probably Pareidolia:-

" Pareidolia, describes a psychological phenomenon involving a vague and random stimulus (often an image or sound) being mistakenly perceived as recognizable. Common examples include images of animals or faces in clouds, seeing the man in the moon, and hearing messages on records played in reverse. The word comes from the Greek para- – amiss, faulty, wrong – and eidolon – image, the diminutive of eidos – appearance, form. "

e.g. the "face" on Mars:-

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc23%2FSUEDONIM%2FMartian_face_viking_cropped.jpg&hash=cc4cceb1d3b0cf291191bff22bfc3e62)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia
Title: Re: Help identifying strange find!
Post by: bonsaikitten on 05/10/2006 18:25:33
Hmmm I think it's not so much my Pareidolia but your Paranoia!

It is DEFINATELY a human face as it has lips and everything. Here is a photo...

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffhss.byu.edu%2Fanthro%2Fmopc%2Fpages%2FExhibitions%2FKachinas%2FCasas%2520Grandes%2Fstone%2520face%2520lg.jpg&hash=ed74dd20a3fb54f840777c5470cbeddb) (http://www.edscientists.com/forum/)

Looks like a fossil to me, Robert.

Try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sceptic ???

Title: Re: Help identifying strange find!
Post by: science_guy on 06/10/2006 15:43:50
Is it solid rock on the other side?  From the looks of it, it is about 2 inches thick.  If it was an indent of a face from the other side, it would be a hollow shell, like a mask.  It cant be an imprint from the side we can see, because the nose is pointing out, along with the eyes.  It is probably just an early stone statue of, judging from what looks like a crown on top, a noble or king of ancient times.


BTW: It is GOOD to be skeptical.  Its what makes us scientists [:)]
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Title: Re: Help identifying strange find!
Post by: ROBERT on 06/10/2006 17:15:51
Bonsaikitten, it's obviously an artifact,
(if it had been a fossil he must have been a really ugly geezer [:)])

But seriously, you should report archaeological finds:-

" There is a legal obligation to report archaeological finds found in England , Wales or Northern Ireland that qualify as Treasure (see further information, below). Non-Treasure finds found in England or Wales may have been recorded with the Portable Antiquities Scheme (a voluntary scheme to record archaeological objects found by the public - see contacts ) and therefore documentation may exist to show where an object was reported as being found and whether it has been properly recorded. "

http://www.finds.org.uk/treasure/advice.php


This site may be able to help you identify the period/importance of your find:-

"The home site for this Weblog is:
Archaeology in Europe
If you have any information that you wish to post,
please send it to the address below:
weblog@archaeology.eu.com "

http://www.archaeology.eu.com/weblog/2006_07_01_archaeologyeu_archive.html
Title: Re: Help identifying strange find!
Post by: daveshorts on 07/10/2006 09:16:25
Would you have been walking in a museum by any chance?
Title: Re: Help identifying strange find!
Post by: ROBERT on 10/10/2006 15:35:00
I noticed the perspex stand too Dave, but I thought I would give Bonsaikitten the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: Help identifying strange find!
Post by: tony6789 on 10/10/2006 15:43:33
wierd for once i have nothing to say...

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Title: Help identifying strange find!
Post by: tony6789 on 05/02/2007 18:27:58
its still looks totaly awsome tho