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Quote from: Thebox on 14/02/2018 18:35:18Nothing is ever lost or gained except when it grows. You have got the quote wrong, in both wording, and meaning.
Nothing is ever lost or gained except when it grows.
Now if the test tubes are empty, and something grows in them, well the mass is changed
Quote from: Thebox on 14/02/2018 19:01:15Huh? That is two separate equations , have you been drinking this evening or summit? I assumed they were two different equations .On that basis I manipulated them using pretty standard algebra.The outcome is that only one of the equations can possibly be true.So, at least one of the equations you posted is wrong.Like I said, "Since you seem to think it's "easy as that", but don't realise that what you post is obviously wrong, it's clear that you don't belong in the world of science."
Huh? That is two separate equations , have you been drinking this evening or summit?
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/02/2018 19:03:23Quote from: Thebox on 14/02/2018 18:35:18Nothing is ever lost or gained except when it grows. You have got the quote wrong, in both wording, and meaning.Not a quote , in my own words. The total mass of an object can be collected in test tubes and guess what? the total amount of collection adds up to the same total mass. Now if the test tubes are empty, and something grows in them, well the mass is changed ,
They are two separate equations that do not equal the same.
It looks like you misquoted Lavoisier."He also discovered the law of conservation of mass that is nothing is lost, nothing is created, everything is transformed. It says that the mass of the final products of a chemical reaction is the same as the reactants’ ones. Today, this principle is the basis of modern chemistry."From https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_LavoisierAnd the point remains that his rule doesn't have an "except" in it- because reality doesn't need one.
Quote from: Thebox on 14/02/2018 19:10:45They are two separate equations that do not equal the same. You said they did, so it looks like you are the one who is mad, since you are now disagreeing with yourself.You said that S+1 = Delta and S-1 = DeltaWell, obviously, Delta = Delta.So S+1 =S-1Or were you just posting word salad again?
when mass is created by growing,
delta does not equal to delta.
Quote from: Thebox on 14/02/2018 19:16:38 when mass is created by growing, But, in the real world, mass is not created by growing.That only happens in your "magic" world where science and evidence don't apply.Quote from: Thebox on 14/02/2018 19:18:09delta does not equal to delta.Thanks for clarifying the fact that your posts make no sense.
But there is an except though, when mass is created by growing, the mass of the body the mass is growing on is increased by the mass of the growth. Things that are growing do not borrow ''clay'' from the ground to grow.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/02/2018 19:21:22Quote from: Thebox on 14/02/2018 19:16:38 when mass is created by growing, But, in the real world, mass is not created by growing.That only happens in your "magic" world where science and evidence don't apply.Quote from: Thebox on 14/02/2018 19:18:09delta does not equal to delta.Thanks for clarifying the fact that your posts make no sense.I wish this forum had an ignore option, you aren't half stupid at times with what you say.
(S+1)+(S-1)=0(S-1)+(S+1)=0(S-1)+(S-1)=S-2
Quote from: Thebox on 14/02/2018 19:26:47(S+1)+(S-1)=0(S-1)+(S+1)=0(S-1)+(S-1)=S-2I guess two out of three isn't too bad.
The original experiment was done rather before Lavoisier's timehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Baptist_van_Helmont#Career_as_chemistry_pioneerAt the time there was no recognition that a gas might weigh something.It seems that Thebox's understanding of science is stuck in the 17th century
Quote from: Thebox on 14/02/2018 19:24:42Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/02/2018 19:21:22Quote from: Thebox on 14/02/2018 19:16:38 when mass is created by growing, But, in the real world, mass is not created by growing.That only happens in your "magic" world where science and evidence don't apply.Quote from: Thebox on 14/02/2018 19:18:09delta does not equal to delta.Thanks for clarifying the fact that your posts make no sense.I wish this forum had an ignore option, you aren't half stupid at times with what you say. Thing is, bored chemist is correct. Which you would knowif you actually bothered to learn something, such as about the works of Lavoisier which you mentioned...
Quote from: Thebox on 14/02/2018 19:16:38But there is an except though, when mass is created by growing, the mass of the body the mass is growing on is increased by the mass of the growth. Things that are growing do not borrow ''clay'' from the ground to grow. To a small extent, they do.That's broadly why, when you burn wood you get ash. It's also why you have to add fertiliser to the soil to keep things growingWhat they mainly do is gather carbon dioxide from the air and water from the ground, and shuffle the molecules to make things like cellulose, and lignin.Did you really not know that?