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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: Nimmie on 02/06/2021 13:06:23

Title: What is the beginning of point A?
Post by: Nimmie on 02/06/2021 13:06:23
If there be two things A and B that only exist in space-time and if A produces B, then what produces A?
HYPOTHESIS: Since nothing else exist in space-time than A and B, then it means that nature of B is A . e.g NOTHING IS SOMETHING. Can A seize to exist in space time? NO. Because non-existence is still something existing (non- existence). let A be something and B nothing, nothing is also something
Title: Re: What is the beginning of point A?
Post by: Kryptid on 02/06/2021 14:42:56
Because non-existence is still something existing (non- existence).

I think that's a contradiction.
Title: Re: What is the beginning of point A?
Post by: CrazyScientist on 02/06/2021 14:59:11
First of all, define what "existence" is. Does the ignorance exist? If so, what are it's coordinates? Are there any measurble limits of ignornce density? Can it be faster than light?
Title: Re: What is the beginning of point A?
Post by: puppypower on 02/06/2021 15:37:32
If there be two things A and B that only exist in space-time and if A produces B, then what produces A?
HYPOTHESIS: Since nothing else exist in space-time than A and B, then it means that nature of B is A . e.g NOTHING IS SOMETHING. Can A seize to exist in space time? NO. Because non-existence is still something existing (non- existence). let A be something and B nothing, nothing is also something

This scenario exists in time,  but not in space-time. It is connected to the imagination processing this scenario in time but not space-time. As an analogy, say you wanted to be build a summer home. You hire an architect. The home exists in time, but not in space-time, until the work crew competes the project in physical reality. As a blueprint the house exist like a ghost of the future. it has no tangible substance, yet. Once it is built and follows the laws of physics the home is part of space-time. The ghost of imagination does not have to follow the laws of physics in space-time but can process data in time.

In your scenario A and B exists, while B comes from A. This could be the house design; A, leads to adding a garage; B, with a very similar style. You never would have built just the garage, if there was no house. But the house was built under budget and the garage was made possible. Your question is when did this all begin, in time, which proceeded their appearance in space-time. It began the moment in time when your first desire to build the house appears; idea appear to you.

If you look at gravity its create an acceleration; d/t/t; 32/ft/sec/sec. This has the units of one part distance; ft, and two parts time; sec. This has the same units as time plus space-time. The first unit of time is the anticipation of a physical event in space-time, that is predictable, but has yet to become real within space-time. For example, the gravity of the earth has the capacity to attract an asteroid. This is anticipated by scientists via the first time vector. To be fully expressed in space-time, this anticipation in time needs to appear in space-time. These predictions often remain in time; waiting and watching, but do not occur in space-time. Time makes it possible; odds increase, but space-time makes it real and tangible.

The imagination can process time potential or process the first time vector, before the anticipated phenomena officially enters space-time. The four forces are predictable in time, before they happen in space-time, because the brain and imagination can process events in time detached from space-time. I can fly to the sun, in an instant in my imagination. This violates the speed of light which is a constraint of space-time. The time potential processing can create scenarios, but these can never become real in space-time since it adds time potential in ways not common to space-time.

Your question is a trick question due to the traditions that assume time and space are always  connected, and that time cannot be processed alone without space-time. That is how innovation works; unexpected occurs. For example, the universe is connected by gravity at distances where there is a huge time delay due to the limit of the speed of light. So how does the superstructures of the universe stay together and coordinate if the time delay is so large and getting larger? it is like talking to the Mars Rover with its smaller time delay. Things can go wrong, if we try to act in real  time as presented but the video monitor. The answer is gravity has an extra time vector not limited to space-time. One might call it the universal imagination or consciousness. It can process time potential and thereby anticipates and acts in planned time, like NASA did with the Rover. 

Title: Re: What is the beginning of point A?
Post by: Colin2B on 02/06/2021 16:42:05
Are there any measurble limits of ignornce density?
None, it is infinite  :D
Title: Re: What is the beginning of point A?
Post by: puppypower on 03/06/2021 14:34:45
Say a new theory was presented on these forums. Someone decides to take it to the lab and is able to disproved the theory. They show that the theory will not occur in tangible reality; i.e.,space-time. The theoretician would be told to stop wasting everyone's time. He would not be told to stop wasting everyone's space-time, since he did not use up any space-time. Information can exist in time, but not all information; imagination, can be translated into space-time.

If my imagination saw a large sprawling development of housing, industry, retail and entertainment,  and I had a track record of being a large scale builder, within space-time, the environmentalists may insist I stop wasting natural space-time. They would try to waste my time, to create delays in the speed at which my imagination becomes reality.

Matter takes up space or matter contains distance potential. The electron defines more distance potential; orbital space, than does the proton; nucleus space, in atoms. Imagination does not take up space, since information is closer to energy; electrical signals, than matter. To take up both space and time, matter has to be involved, such as with testing ideas the experiments. Failed experiments fail to integrate time; information, with space, via matter, in space-time.

Say someone was always lost in their imagination. Time still goes by each day. They will grow older whether they are productive or not. Productive usually involves matter to some degree, allowing thought to appear in a more tangible form within space-time.

Say this person, with their head in the clouds, was part of a mission on a new class of relativistic space ship. They are still wasting; processing, time in their fantasy imagination, and are not being very productive; interfacing space-time. What would be the impact of relativity on their imagination as it processes time potential apart from space-time?

Since their imagination is connected to the matter of the brain,  space-time will contract and they will appear to be wasting less time, relative to the fixed earth reference, due to time dilation slowing time.  Although time will appear to slow, the proportions in space, with respect to his fantasy world, will not change in distance, no matter what reference reads his fantasy writings.

Nobody will see the imagination output make everything skinnier in space, since he is only processing time. The information will take longer to receive, but the blue print implied by the information will not change in space proportions. It can still be built the same way in all references, if it could be translated into space-time. The classic novel will not change, no matter which reference reads it, even if it is transferred between different references, since that information only involve processing in time.

What is useful about processing time potential, apart from space-time, is the BB is where space-time begins, by definition. Before the BB there is no space-time. However, as the imagination shows, the processing of time potential, information, can occur apart from space-time.

A blue print can appear from time potential, before matter gets involved placing limits, with its space-time requirements. As the imagination shows, the blue print can also contain things that may not be feasible in space-time. Upon translation into space-time, the things that are not feasible will leave gaps in translation; quantum; tangible versus hypothetical/discontinuous. This could be matter versus dark matter. Or the allowable energy levels of atoms. Dark matter is connected to imagination and time potential but never seen isn the lab via space-time. It is nevertheless felt as real due to time potential

The quantum world of partial translation of time into space-time, may also create statistical affects, which is a temporary bridge in space-time between imagination and space-time tangible. The interface can occur in space-time, but not in all space-time. For example, if we assume life formed by a unique event in time and space, to become tangible, space-time would need to be in a very certain state for the translation to be possible; specific space-time quanta.

Say we play dice and need a seven to win the jack pot; reality interface in space-time. Not all rolls will allow the vision of the imagination to translate into space-time. Only certain space-time quanta will work. If these do not occur the jack pot is stuck in time; what could have been. The imagination of another will become tangible in space-time.
 
Title: Re: What is the beginning of point A?
Post by: Zer0 on 08/06/2021 14:13:06

If A is +1.
&
B is -1.

Then one might propose ' A ' did Not produce ' B '.

Both their Existence, is Dependant on each other...Simply saying the Cannot exist Independently.

Combining both would yield 0.

Still, 0 cannot be asserted to be
" NoThing ".

Then perhaps, 0 is just a Combination of ' A ' & ' B '.

Hence 0's existence is dependant & Cannot be Independent.



P.S. - In the story of the Chicken & the Egg, the Cock is always sidelined & forgotten.
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