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Quote from: ukmicky on 24/02/2021 20:34:49I look before I cross the road but not all situations require actions and those that don’t are often determined by fate.Can you draw a line between "leaving it to fate" and criminal negligence, in the particular case in question?
I look before I cross the road but not all situations require actions and those that don’t are often determined by fate.
Apropos the trolley problem, it is clearly invented by a philosopher with no understanding of reality. If you half-switch the points, or switch it when the front wheels have passed, the trolley will derail without hitting anyone.
No he is a human being and has a right to live even if it’s only hours so I would let fate determine which way the train went.
Let's not belittle someone else's professions.
Engineers who built the tracks and train most likely had built safety precautions to prevent those kind of things. For example, the switch is designed not to react untill it's fully switched, and it doesn't react when a train is already in the mid of crossing the intersection.
I distinguish between professionals and parasites.
Have you ever travelled by train?
Here the math shows that you should pull the lever.
so in reality no one except would pull the lever and as I said previously fate would win
However even if you were correct and the Math (or should that be Maths ,mathematics or even arithmetic ) shows that you should pull the lever . Pulling the lever would of course cause the death of an innocent party which would be either murder or manslaughter ,so in reality no one except would pull the lever and as I said previously fate would win
Here is another plot twist I just thought of. You have inadvertently switched the track when you learn about the situation, so the train is heading toward one person. Will you switch it back to its original track, which will kill 5 people, instead of letting your mistake inadvertently kill 1?In this scenario, both decisions involve you action. Hence there is no excuse of being a passive bystander.
Quote from: ukmicky on 27/02/2021 01:01:31so in reality no one except would pull the lever and as I said previously fate would winExcept who?Real life experiment in the mindfield video shows that some people are really willing and capable of pulling the lever.Fate is determined after the fact. So, it's not surprising that it always win. It's a circular logic.
Quote from: alancalverd on 26/02/2021 13:30:41I distinguish between professionals and parasites.How can a philosopher who teach about trolley problem becomes a parasite?
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 27/02/2021 04:01:12Quote from: ukmicky on 27/02/2021 01:01:31so in reality no one except would pull the lever and as I said previously fate would winExcept who?Real life experiment in the mindfield video shows that some people are really willing and capable of pulling the lever.Fate is determined after the fact. So, it's not surprising that it always win. It's a circular logic.An idiot
Quote from: ukmicky on 27/02/2021 13:36:08Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 27/02/2021 04:01:12Quote from: ukmicky on 27/02/2021 01:01:31so in reality no one except would pull the lever and as I said previously fate would winExcept who?Real life experiment in the mindfield video shows that some people are really willing and capable of pulling the lever.Fate is determined after the fact. So, it's not surprising that it always win. It's a circular logic.An idiotYou're redefining word. Most people in many surveys said they would pull the lever to save 5 people and sacrifice 1. Many of the surveys participants are college students, which must have passed some preliminary cognitive tests. You can accuse others who disagree with you of being idiot. But if the evidences are against you, you are putting your own credential in jeopardy.
No I just live in the real world