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Why do you call real, observable phenomena like time dilation " mystical/fantatic results."?
This (#4) is the only quantized statement, and SR does not predict it. The experiment was first performed in 1971 (Hafele–Keating) and the two clocks were not equal, as predicted by relativity, and thus falsifies your not-even-Newtonian assertions. The experiment is performed every day these days.
The boiling degree of water varies with height.
Quote from: xersanozgen on 12/09/2019 11:56:16The boiling degree of water varies with height.That's because of air pressure, not gravity.
That article is hidden behind a paywall. Not exactly useful for debates.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 10/09/2019 20:02:19Why do you call real, observable phenomena like time dilation " mystical/fantatic results."?When we look to sky, we see the celestial objects that each one of them is not at its simultaneous position and its real age. Whereas we can see all of them in the same plan/frame although the sight is an space-time illusion. The reason of this illusion is the value of light’s velocity is not infinity; theoretically, we cannot see anything simultaneously. But somebody may link this illusion to SR.And somebody may link to SR my virtual/visual experiment too. Whereas the inferences of this experiment are caused with the reason of finite/limited value of light’s velocity. SR bases on the fixed value of light’s velocity. A serious nuance is mentioned. However, many people interpret/suppose these some visual deformations are reasoned by SR (*) and they can be convinced. In my opinion, they don’t know the essence of SR. As if the fallacies and rationalisations (making something reasonable) protect the SR. Nobody gets offended. It goes on like this. Much people never desist from SR; because it has a confusing potential . Much people don't know the essence of SR or they have second-hand knowledge. Perhaps, I would convince Einstein, If he would be alive.(*) the deformations of SR's dimension units are genuine. Please remember Fitzgerald contraction.
Atomic clocks are directly effected by gravity.
For full method and details: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2013PhyEs..26...49E
Quote from: xersanozgen on 15/09/2019 10:26:00For full method and details: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2013PhyEs..26...49EPaywall.
Quote from: xersanozgen on 12/09/2019 11:38:42Quote from: Bored chemist on 10/09/2019 20:02:19Why do you call real, observable phenomena like time dilation " mystical/fantatic results."?When we look to sky, we see the celestial objects that each one of them is not at its simultaneous position and its real age. Whereas we can see all of them in the same plan/frame although the sight is an space-time illusion. The reason of this illusion is the value of light’s velocity is not infinity; theoretically, we cannot see anything simultaneously. But somebody may link this illusion to SR.And somebody may link to SR my virtual/visual experiment too. Whereas the inferences of this experiment are caused with the reason of finite/limited value of light’s velocity. SR bases on the fixed value of light’s velocity. A serious nuance is mentioned. However, many people interpret/suppose these some visual deformations are reasoned by SR (*) and they can be convinced. In my opinion, they don’t know the essence of SR. As if the fallacies and rationalisations (making something reasonable) protect the SR. Nobody gets offended. It goes on like this. Much people never desist from SR; because it has a confusing potential . Much people don't know the essence of SR or they have second-hand knowledge. Perhaps, I would convince Einstein, If he would be alive.(*) the deformations of SR's dimension units are genuine. Please remember Fitzgerald contraction.That did not answer my question.Why do you dismiss reality as fantasy?Time dilation is real.
The arguments are transparent /clear.Of course, some people has emotional or mental resistance. But if they consider these new ideas, their wisdom and vision will improve.
That did not answer my question.Why do you dismiss reality as fantasy?Time dilation is real.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 15/09/2019 10:39:52That did not answer my question.Why do you dismiss reality as fantasy?Time dilation is real.
Interesting. As if, you harp/say "The sun turns around the Earth". In addition, you say "this is reality".
Time dilation has been observationally supported many times
which; how???