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It's not a useful phrase. A rock definitely exists but almost certainly doesn't think, so thinking is neither a necessary nor sufficient criterion of existence, ergo ergo is not demonstrated.
Quote from: Zer0 on 29/04/2023 21:36:01Memory doesn't just reside in the Brain.It's present in Cells too.Do you mean something like vaccination?
Memory doesn't just reside in the Brain.It's present in Cells too.
But you are assuming that you can think, and have not just assumed that you can. And also that thought implies existence.
Doing all of those things requires existence.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 04/05/2023 05:18:33Doing all of those things requires existence."Proof by assertion" is not permitted.
You can take your own existence as an axiom without having to justify it. Simple is best.
This was formulated by Max Planck:[1]A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it ...An important scientific innovation rarely makes its way by gradually winning over and converting its opponents: it rarely happens that Saul becomes Paul. What does happen is that its opponents gradually die out, and that the growing generation is familiarized with the ideas from the beginning: another instance of the fact that the future lies with the youth.— Max Planck, Scientific autobiography, 1950, p. 33, 97Colloquially, this is often paraphrased as "Science progresses one funeral at a time".
It doesn't mean that every axiom believed by an existing conscious entity must be true, though. It only means that if some of the axioms accepted by the existing conscious entity are false, they are not important enough, at least for the time and place where the entity exists so far. They may become important in some other time and places, where embracing the false axioms will lead to the entity stop existing.
Eventually, they will build an accurate and precise virtual universe.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 07/05/2023 10:21:09Eventually, they will build an accurate and precise virtual universe. Fairly obvious up to this point which is clearly untrue. An accurate and precise model of the universe must include a model of itself, ut sic ad infinitum, and therefore cannot be achieved.
AbstractThis article argues that consciousness has a logically sound, explanatory framework, different from typical accounts that suffer from hidden mysticism. The article has three main parts. The first describes background principles concerning information processing in the brain, from which one can deduce a general, rational framework for explaining consciousness. The second part describes a specific theory that embodies those background principles, the Attention Schema Theory. In the past several years, a growing body of experimental evidence?behavioral evidence, brain imaging evidence, and computational modeling?has addressed aspects of the theory. The final part discusses the evolution of consciousness. By emphasizing the specific role of consciousness in cognition and behavior, the present approach leads to a proposed account of how consciousness may have evolved over millions of years, from fish to humans. The goal of this article is to present a comprehensive, overarching framework in which we can understand scientifically what consciousness is and what key adaptive roles it plays in brain function.
I'm preparing next video about cogito ergo sum as the first knowledge. Stay tuned.
There would be some optimal and balanced compositions for different cases in different conditions and importance.
The video took longer than I expected.
This video describes Cogito ergo sum as the first knowledge. First slides introduce the concept by quoting from Wikipedia, indicated by green boxes. Additional notes and follow up ideas are presented later on.