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Title: Wikipedia Wrong: Hydrogen Wave Function?
Post by: talanum1 on 02/06/2020 10:18:47
The picture at "Atoms and Molecules" at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro, is wrong: the third row and the fifth row should be excluded because the table of the element's numbers go like:

2, 2, 6, 2, 6, 2, 10, 6, ...

and the f-level's row has 14 blocks.

This means the formulae is also not right: only a subset of the formulae get used.

Also to get the wave function of the second 6 and third 2 for example, we would need a sum of the given orbital wave functions.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wrong: Hydrogen Wave Function?
Post by: hamdani yusuf on 02/06/2020 10:53:20
The link only refers to a disambiguation page. Can you just insert the picture here?
You can use insert image icon after you press the preview button.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wrong: Hydrogen Wave Function?
Post by: talanum1 on 02/06/2020 11:16:38
The picture is attached in .png  format.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wrong: Hydrogen Wave Function?
Post by: Bored chemist on 02/06/2020 12:56:44
You refer to a table...
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wrong: Hydrogen Wave Function?
Post by: talanum1 on 02/06/2020 14:17:34
You refer to a table...

Yes, the Periodic Table of the Elements: this reflects electron orbitals in an atom.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wrong: Hydrogen Wave Function?
Post by: talanum1 on 02/06/2020 15:00:52
I may be wrong: I considered them in the sequence they appeared in.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wrong: Hydrogen Wave Function?
Post by: talanum1 on 02/06/2020 15:30:38
Anyway there is an error in the formula: r should be roh.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wrong: Hydrogen Wave Function?
Post by: chiralSPO on 02/06/2020 15:59:48
Using quantumn numbers n, l, ml and ms, we would expect:
2
2, 6
2, 6, 10
2, 6, 10, 14
2, 6, 10, 14, 18
etc.

But, because both n and l contribute to the energy of the electrons, it turns out that when placed in order of energy, it becomes:
2
2, 6
2, 6
2, 10, 6
2, 10, 6
2, 14, 10, 6
2, 14, 10, 6
2, 18, 14, 10, 6
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wrong: Hydrogen Wave Function?
Post by: talanum1 on 02/06/2020 16:34:00
But, because both n and l contribute to the energy of the electrons, it turns out that when placed in order of energy, it becomes:22, 62, 62, 10, 62, 10, 62, 14, 10, 62, 14, 10, 62, 18, 14, 10, 6

That is the order of the Periodic Table of the Elements. To be picky: mathematically there should be another row of "2" at the top.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wrong: Hydrogen Wave Function?
Post by: talanum1 on 02/06/2020 16:37:22
Are the numbers in the picture in order: (n, l, m_l)?
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wrong: Hydrogen Wave Function?
Post by: talanum1 on 02/06/2020 16:53:26
(3, 0, 0), (2, 1, 0) and (2, 1, 1) should be grouped together as the 2p orbitals. I was wrong, the pictures are just not in the order of the Periodic Table of the Elements.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wrong: Hydrogen Wave Function?
Post by: Bored chemist on 02/06/2020 16:56:03
Anyway there is an error in the formula: r should be roh.
Do you mean rho (ρ) ?
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wrong: Hydrogen Wave Function?
Post by: talanum1 on 02/06/2020 17:09:29
Yes I meant rho (ρ).

No to my previous post, the 2p orbitals all have n = 3. In which case (2, 1, 0) and (2, 1, 1) must be superpositions of 2s and 2p or wrong?

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