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Life Sciences => Physiology & Medicine => Topic started by: MartinTheK on 22/09/2010 17:08:44

Title: Is GM salmon poisonous
Post by: MartinTheK on 22/09/2010 17:08:44
Good Morning citizens,

As I write this the FDA has thrown open the request of Aquabounty to license GM salmon for a period of public comment.

Aquabounty says their strain of salmon reaches market weight sooner and on less feed. So let the lukewarm milk of precaution be spilt.

What do you think? Shouldn't someone tell the Queen?
Title: Is GM salmon poisonous
Post by: tommya300 on 22/09/2010 20:06:50
Good Morning citizens,

As I write this the FDA has thrown open the request of Aquabounty to license GM salmon for a period of public comment.

Aquabounty says their strain of salmon reaches market weight sooner and on less feed. So let the lukewarm milk of precaution be spilt.

What do you think? Shouldn't someone tell the Queen?

I have seen that on the News a couple of nights ago.
It was explained that growth hormones were not used.

They cross bred, hybridize, with some funky non poisonous fish.
Mother natures doing, I interpret, by placing the matting copulating items together, or was it Gene spiting, creating a Franken fish.

Sounds like a fish that wears a new set of Jeans genes.
Like all new things, can we believe the sources that are driven by profit?
 
Title: Is GM salmon poisonous
Post by: echochartruse on 22/09/2010 22:25:59
 
the FDA is actually regulating the GE salmon as a drug. http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2010/09/frankenfish-created-with-creepy-science/

Genetically modified salmon is deemed safe for human consumption - despite higher levels of a suspected carcinogen
 Higher levels of IGF-1 in GM salmon Wednesday, 08 September 2010 20:11
http://www.gmwatch.org/latest-listing/1-news-items/12469-higher-levels-of-igf-1-in-gm-salmon

FDA Needs More Time To Decide If Genetically Modified Salmon Is Safe For Human Consumption. September 21, 2010 By Jeniffer Winget. http://www.adi-news.com/fda-needs-more-time-to-decide-if-genetically-modified-salmon-is-safe-for-human-consumption/25000/

Russian Scientists Prove Genetically Modified Foods are Harmful, Suggest Ban on GM Foods
http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2010/04/27/russian-scientists-prove-genetically-modified-foods-are-harmful-suggest-ban-on-gm-foods/Apr 16, 2010 17:26 Moscow Time

Austrian Government Study Confirms Genetically Modified (GM) Crops Threaten Human Fertility and Health Safety
http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2008/11/22/austrian-government-study-confirms-genetically-modified-gm-crops-threaten-human-fertility-and-health-safety/Austrian Agency for Health and Food Safety
Corporate Communication: Univ.-Doz. Ingrid Kiefer
Tel: +43 50 555-25000; E-Mail: ingrid.kiefer@ages.at

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Australian Agriculture Minister Tony Burke parrots Monsanto CEO, Hugh Grant, claiming the world's booming population means we must accept GM crops. But since GM crops were launched in 1996, the number of malnourished and starving people worldwide has skyrocketed from 350 million to 1.2 billion.
23 July 2010 http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2961156.htm

GM crops cause liver and kidney damage.
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A report published in the International Journal of Microbiology has verified once again that Monsanto's genetically modified (GM) crops are causing severe health problems. A legal challenge issued against Monsanto forced the multi-national agriculture giant to release raw data revealing that animals fed its patented GM corn suffered liver and kidney damage within just three months. Adding to the mounting evidence that GM crops are dangerous all around, this information provides a damning indictment against Monsanto which continually insists that its GM products are safe. Not only are GM crops proving disastrous for the environment, but study after study, including those conducted by Monsanto itself, is showing that GM foods are detrimental to health.
http://www.naturalnews.com/028388_GM_crops_kidney_damage.html

http://www.agric.wa.gov.au/objtwr/imported_assets/content/fcp/gmcrops/202_unknown_f.pdf = Western Australia government site

Did you know that GM insecticide is already in some of our foods?

GM Salmon have not tested for human consumption.
The growth hormone they inject into the salmon has been tested in its natural state but the Salmon with this added hormon has not.
Title: Is GM salmon poisonous
Post by: tommya300 on 23/09/2010 00:33:09
Well that says it all A royle flush of information trumps the single  duce of spads.
To many loop holes in the FDA. F'n Dumb Azzes.
Looks like no more salmon in this person's diet.
Title: Is GM salmon poisonous
Post by: frankenfishideas on 28/11/2010 11:12:05
Well that says it all A royle flush of information trumps the single  duce of spads.
To many loop holes in the FDA. F'n Dumb Azzes.
Looks like no more salmon in this person's diet.

That is for sometime. genetically altered fishes has to be introduced to normal being sooner or later. I am pretty much sure about that. http://frankenfish.com/genetically-engineered-salmon-%E2%80%93-does-mother-nature-approve.html
This link tells it is approved.
Title: Is GM salmon poisonous
Post by: SteveFish on 29/11/2010 01:04:34
Tommya and Echochartruse:

You have been having a nice little talkfest all by yourselves, but now you have a challenge to your beliefs by Frankenfishideas. It is time to act like a scientist, or a science enthusiast, and get busy and provide some references to original sources that support your viewpoint. Not your opinions, or opinions of commentators, just published, peer reviewed, research. I hope you do because I generally don't like the idea of GM foods. I think that it is just intended to make money, not taste good or be healthier, and because of the corporations rapacious practices. However, I could not convert any of my scientific friends to your viewpoint on the basis of the crap you think is evidence.

Steve
Title: Is GM salmon poisonous
Post by: Variola on 01/12/2010 19:55:58
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Did you know that GM insecticide is already in some of our foods? 

Yes, made by the very bacteria I am working with. What is your point? Are you planning on turning into a caterpillar? Do you even know what the insecticide is? It is considered organic, and the bacteria that produce it are often used on organic crops to control pests. So when you next eat your organic veggies or fruit, think about how much exposure it has had to the very same toxin that is in GM crops.

Why does one of your links give me a page to an article on the Austrian Catholic Church abuse hotline.

Another comes up with page not found.

Another is from GMwatch!

Natural news-not a good site for impartiality!

As for your last link.... I don't think even FFS covers it!

If you are going to have a discussion on a science forum, then you simply have to reference papers, credible scientific journal articles not just trash pulled up from the net. I understand that many sites require you to pay, but if you give me the journal and article title I can download the full text for free and send it to you if that is any help.