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Title: What users on this forum have bought the farm?
Post by: Pseudoscience-is-malarkey on 14/07/2023 22:46:10
Just curious, I don't know.
Title: Re: What users on this forum have bought the farm?
Post by: Bored chemist on 15/07/2023 00:52:04
Are you expecting replies along the lines of "I died two years ago"?
Title: Re: What users on this forum have bought the farm?
Post by: Pseudoscience-is-malarkey on 17/07/2023 16:02:02
Are you expecting replies along the lines of "I died two years ago"?
I bet you had to look up the phrase "bought the farm" before replying.
Title: Re: What users on this forum have bought the farm?
Post by: Bored chemist on 17/07/2023 16:39:34
Are you expecting replies along the lines of "I died two years ago"?
I bet you had to look up the phrase "bought the farm" before replying.
You are wrong.
Is there anything else you would like to advertise your ignorance about?
Title: Re: What users on this forum have bought the farm?
Post by: alancalverd on 19/07/2023 16:40:14
I bought a bit of a farm (the old stables, to be precise) 10 years ago and have been living in it ever since. No complaints.
Title: Re: What users on this forum have bought the farm?
Post by: paul cotter on 19/07/2023 18:25:02
Indeed, that sounds to me as having been a wise investment. Having "bought the farm" means having purchased a piece of agricultural land with cash or in kind. Any other meaning is an abuse of the English language. The alternate unofficial meaning ascribed to the phrase in question makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: What users on this forum have bought the farm?
Post by: Bored chemist on 19/07/2023 20:07:33
Indeed, that sounds to me as having been a wise investment. Having "bought the farm" means having purchased a piece of agricultural land with cash or in kind. Any other meaning is an abuse of the English language. The alternate unofficial meaning ascribed to the phrase in question makes no sense at all.
The meanings of all words and phrases are arbitrary.
Why single out this one?
Title: Re: What users on this forum have bought the farm?
Post by: paul cotter on 21/07/2023 08:33:26
For sure all languages evolve over time. At a given moment in time words in the English language and also the German language( from which English is largely derived ) generally have precise meanings. I did not pick on this phrase, pseudo raised the subject and I commented. Personal opinion, I think it's a stupid phrase and others may differ, that's fine by me. For the record, I had to look it up as I had never come across it before.
Title: Re: What users on this forum have bought the farm?
Post by: Bored chemist on 21/07/2023 08:37:22
It's interesting. I'm sure the phrase "kicked the bucket" is more common, but- at least to me- it's more difficult to work out the connection between what it says and what it means.
Title: Re: What users on this forum have bought the farm?
Post by: alancalverd on 21/07/2023 14:03:29
Apart from actual land purchase, I've only come across the phrase in the context of aircraft coming into lethal and unintended contact with the ground, where it is entirely consistent with the black humor and understatement  that run through the aviation business. "Having recovered from an unusual attitude1 , he made an interesting2 approach to an unapproved target3 and bought the farm4"

1 - perhaps an inverted spin
2 - at least partially stalled and out of control
3 - a mile short of the runway
4 - like shopping for glassware or tomatoes: if you break it, you must buy it



Title: Re: What users on this forum have bought the farm?
Post by: Bored chemist on 21/07/2023 15:12:35
When I heard the phrase the implication was different.
Someone's life insurance paid for their next of kin's farm.

Title: Re: What users on this forum have bought the farm?
Post by: alancalverd on 21/07/2023 17:03:19
Which is the probable origin of my footnote 4 above. Many thanks.
Title: Re: What users on this forum have bought the farm?
Post by: Bored chemist on 21/07/2023 17:20:01
It's not clear who ended up owning the farm.
Was it the deceased's next of kin, or the government?
I don't suppose it matters much.

This was  a daft thing to say anyway:

I bet you had to look up the phrase "bought the farm" before replying.