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How does a 'field' become observer dependent?
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How does a 'field' become observer dependent?
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Or maybe It's just me, being mis-adjusted? Never mind, I sooner go the grave thinking my own way, than adopt to any dogma.
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I don't know. It might be single malt speaking here, but I remember me expecting the world to be understandable? Do you, really as by your self, find it it understandable? I mean, we see a logic, and I'm prepared to let me lead me wherever it like, but is it the world I grew up in? The world we're zooming in on is less than the world we thought ourselves to live in, but also infinite
If that doesn't give you a headache, well, it still gives me one
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In the end, from the point of consciousness, it might all be about reproduction. It's easy to see how religions lift reproduction up as something holy, not to be trifled with. But as for one singular world, taking care of us all, it's a doomed proposition. then again, theres so much to admire with those of us wanting to protect. It's about emotions, feelings, bravery, against logic. Still, I expect logic to 'win', whatever that now means.
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That does not mean that I find logic to be the only answer. Live your dreams, but make them good ones, please.
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In the end you will walk alone. Just as the way you came in.
The rest is up to you
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There are some truths about life. some things that makes it simpler.
don't lie.
If you can't tell the truth, keep quiet,
It's simple, but only a very few can make it hold.
are you one of them?
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Before all though.
Try to see how much of your truths that are true. That will change, with age and experience. You can either decide that logic will be your answer, or feelings. I prefer logic myself, but I don't think logic is all. When it comes to those things that touch me most, I don't really know? Some people think that love is the answer? I don't know there either?
You came alone, and you will leave alone.
What is your answer?
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And yes, it's all about dying
Are you afraid?
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Can you see why democracy is a good thing?
not because it makes me bigger, just because it listen to us all.
Crazy isn't it? To expect us to consider others.
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I'm most probably boring here
Well, this is where it stops, and I'm getting old. Give me a reason why frames of reference communicate? Why does they? That's the next Nobel prize.
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The point may be. Either you can face death, without hiding behind some belief, or you are unable?
And it doesn't really matter what your protection is called here.
Are you a man?
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One more thing, you came here without a protection, and you made it just fine. why do you think you need it to leave?
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To put into simplicity
Be unto others as you want them to be unto you.
Nobody seems to get that one, do they?
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The thing is, I don't need a reward in heaven to realize why the above is a sane approach.
Can you see why it makes me wonder about us?
Are we that behavioristic as a species? We won't do anything unless we get a reward? Be it ugly or good. Yeah, physics is pretty simple, compared to humanity
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Anyone read "Assessment on the risks of neonicotinoids and fipronil to biodiversity and ecosystem_WIA-Conclusions-summary" you can find it
here
Anyway, made me wonder about us again. We associate the 'free market' with democracy, self interests with justice, and believe that money is what shows the way forward. And it's not just western democracies that does this, the old USSR consisted of a blatant elite society, with only a few having access to real privileges, and let's not start on discussing China.
what do we get from this type of philosophy?
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Find me a real democracy.
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The worst thing about this kind of reports are that they almost invariably tend to be considered belonging to some fringe group, not needed to be taken seriously. We can see it even when it comes to global warming. And those fighting for a status quo, advertising their views in all kinds of ways, what have they to lose by taking it seriously?
Money.
and what have we as a species to lose?
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Modern society's are built on bureaucracies. Ideally presumed incorruptible, practically adapting to diverse influences, be it political, monetary, as well as the opinions and beliefs shared by their peers. They are supposed to be governed by the people, the same way as politicians are supposed to be instruments of the people, doing the peoples will.
Then again, there exist no democracies, but there exist representative democracies.
It's a big difference.
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And still we have democracy in reach, if we tried. We have the Internet, we have asymmetric encryption, guaranteeing the individual voting. So what do we do with this Internet? Well, we corrupt international open standards, we start to collect all information there is, storing it indefinitley just in case.
Some people think that they are 'small fishes in a big ocean'. Not any longer, there are no fishes too small to be noticed, using algorithms. you can design them to 'fish' for whatever your little heart decide, and information, that's real power.
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And then we have those that say they have nothing to hide
Well, there might be a few saints amongst us, but I'm not one, and neither are you.
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