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Quote from: Thebox on 09/10/2017 10:56:52 You however still do not understand why it is not dark in your cellar. Quote from: Thebox on 09/10/2017 10:56:52However when it is dark...Hang on; you just said it can't be dark down there.Make up your mind.Perhaps the problem is that you can't understand that it is, in fact, dark down there.Shall we set up a poll?
You however still do not understand why it is not dark in your cellar.
However when it is dark...
I should write a short paper on the matter to clarify understanding what is meant.
The objects are dark in your cellar but the space is not. Can you not understand this?
The white things in my cellar are light, the black things are dark.The space- as you refer to it, is transparent or colourless.However all the stuff down there is unilluminated.It's dark down there, and it's you who needs to understand that.
I tried the experiment today using the tail camera on an Airbus A380.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 09/10/2017 14:41:58The white things in my cellar are light, the black things are dark.The space- as you refer to it, is transparent or colourless.However all the stuff down there is unilluminated.It's dark down there, and it's you who needs to understand that.You agree with me but do not even realise it. Exactly, think about the space , it is colourless, it is not illuminated or unilluminated. The space is not dark in your cellar. I will write it up later when my visitors have gone home.
Quote from: Thebox on 09/10/2017 15:51:34Quote from: Bored chemist on 09/10/2017 14:41:58The white things in my cellar are light, the black things are dark.The space- as you refer to it, is transparent or colourless.However all the stuff down there is unilluminated.It's dark down there, and it's you who needs to understand that.You agree with me but do not even realise it. Exactly, think about the space , it is colourless, it is not illuminated or unilluminated. The space is not dark in your cellar. I will write it up later when my visitors have gone home. You seem not to understand; whether it is illuminated or not (i e light or dark,) depends on whether I have switched the lights on.(and, of course, strictly speaking, it's not clear- it scatters light slightly.)What do you think the poll I suggested would say?Here's a hint; it's dark in the cellar.
An object doesn't really have a "natural" appearance since the appearance depends on circumstances- notable the illumination.
Without illumination the object is black.
Quote from: Thebox on 09/10/2017 19:14:26Without illumination the object is black.No, in the dark it looks black- a tomato doesn't change colour when you turn the light off. How would it "know" to do so?
Darn it, seem to have writers block and not know where to begin. so far.....Abstract - This paper is intended to show by objectivity of observation and logical conclusions, that darkness (The absence of light), is actually the property and natural state of appearance of any object. Thus leading to a conclusion(s) that darkness is the visible darkness of objects and light is the visible illumination of objects.
Quote from: Thebox on 09/10/2017 18:56:31Darn it, seem to have writers block and not know where to begin. so far.....Abstract - This paper is intended to show by objectivity of observation and logical conclusions, that darkness (The absence of light), is actually the property and natural state of appearance of any object. Thus leading to a conclusion(s) that darkness is the visible darkness of objects and light is the visible illumination of objects. You also have to write a paper before you right an abstract. An abstract is a summary of the paper and the data contained therein. How can you summarise something you have not written?
. It knows because the apple stops reacting when there is not enough intensity and magnitude to react to. No interaction equates to no wavelength.
Quote from: The Spoon on 09/10/2017 19:27:33Quote from: Thebox on 09/10/2017 18:56:31Darn it, seem to have writers block and not know where to begin. so far.....Abstract - This paper is intended to show by objectivity of observation and logical conclusions, that darkness (The absence of light), is actually the property and natural state of appearance of any object. Thus leading to a conclusion(s) that darkness is the visible darkness of objects and light is the visible illumination of objects. You also have to write a paper before you right an abstract. An abstract is a summary of the paper and the data contained therein. How can you summarise something you have not written? I already have all the physics involved and the observations in my mind. I already know my own notion so it is easy to write the abstract firstly . Then I have to make sure in the paper I cover what the abstract says. However my abstract seems rather boring and is not very elegant. It does not explain the space being transparent etc. It is not easy to just write a paper, I have to be int he right frame of mind which I will be sooner than later. It just comes to me... I was thinking of starting with clarifying what we mean by light and explaining the various ambiguities of the word. Directing the reader to the intended version to remove ambiguity.
Quote from: Thebox on 09/10/2017 19:33:17Quote from: The Spoon on 09/10/2017 19:27:33Quote from: Thebox on 09/10/2017 18:56:31Darn it, seem to have writers block and not know where to begin. so far.....Abstract - This paper is intended to show by objectivity of observation and logical conclusions, that darkness (The absence of light), is actually the property and natural state of appearance of any object. Thus leading to a conclusion(s) that darkness is the visible darkness of objects and light is the visible illumination of objects. You also have to write a paper before you right an abstract. An abstract is a summary of the paper and the data contained therein. How can you summarise something you have not written? I already have all the physics involved and the observations in my mind. I already know my own notion so it is easy to write the abstract firstly . Then I have to make sure in the paper I cover what the abstract says. However my abstract seems rather boring and is not very elegant. It does not explain the space being transparent etc. It is not easy to just write a paper, I have to be int he right frame of mind which I will be sooner than later. It just comes to me... I was thinking of starting with clarifying what we mean by light and explaining the various ambiguities of the word. Directing the reader to the intended version to remove ambiguity. You have never read an academic paper have you. You really dont have a clue.
Quote from: The Spoon on 09/10/2017 19:50:16Quote from: Thebox on 09/10/2017 19:33:17Quote from: The Spoon on 09/10/2017 19:27:33Quote from: Thebox on 09/10/2017 18:56:31Darn it, seem to have writers block and not know where to begin. so far.....Abstract - This paper is intended to show by objectivity of observation and logical conclusions, that darkness (The absence of light), is actually the property and natural state of appearance of any object. Thus leading to a conclusion(s) that darkness is the visible darkness of objects and light is the visible illumination of objects. You also have to write a paper before you right an abstract. An abstract is a summary of the paper and the data contained therein. How can you summarise something you have not written? I already have all the physics involved and the observations in my mind. I already know my own notion so it is easy to write the abstract firstly . Then I have to make sure in the paper I cover what the abstract says. However my abstract seems rather boring and is not very elegant. It does not explain the space being transparent etc. It is not easy to just write a paper, I have to be int he right frame of mind which I will be sooner than later. It just comes to me... I was thinking of starting with clarifying what we mean by light and explaining the various ambiguities of the word. Directing the reader to the intended version to remove ambiguity. You have never read an academic paper have you. You really dont have a clue. I read relativity , of course I don't know how to do a paper correctly. I haven't a clue how to present it. I could present it in demonstration but explaining it in words as in a paper is not easy.