[mad aetherist]

The twins contradiction merely kills the Einsteinian SR.

Yes but the Einsteinian SR or STR is the only SR or STR out there. There are other relativities, in particular the Lorentz relativity.
Actually there are say 25 STRs out there, because Einstein changed his tune so often, only stopping when he died in 1955.  I daresay that the inscription on his headstone was plagiarised.

[Paradigmer]

Yes but the Einsteinian SR or STR is the only SR or STR out there.

No, the contemporary Einstein relativity that proposed the twin paradox, is not the original Einstein's relativity. It was not the fault of Einstein those mafia did not award the prize to the rightful originators.

And as a matter of fact, if Einstein had not intervened, the Bose-Einstein condensate would have been plagiarized, if not buried.

Science has been politicised and underseiged since its inception.

Sun Yat Sen is the figurehead of a communist country. Many hardcore comminists of course would not qualify him as an advocator of communism. Its not his fault he was made the communist figurehead.

[mad aetherist]

Yes but the Einsteinian SR or STR is the only SR or STR out there.

No, the contemporary Einstein relativity that proposed the twin paradox, is not the original Einstein's relativity. It was not the fault of Einstein those mafia did not award the prize to the rightful originators.
And as a matter of fact, if Einstein had not intervened, the Bose-Einstein condensate would have been plagiarized, if not buried.
Science has been politicised and underseiged since its inception.

But Einstein was heavily involved in the twins contradiction, he even proposed the silliest excuses.

[Paradigmer]

But Einstein was heavily involved in the twins contradiction, he even proposed the silliest excuses.

Einstein debunked the twins paradox with geodesic motion, which the postulated inertia accelerated, is the equivalent principle of GR.

[mad aetherist]

But Einstein was heavily involved in the twins contradiction, he even proposed the silliest excuses.

Einstein debunked the twins paradox with geodesic motion, which the postulated inertia accelerated, is the equivalent principle of GR.

I recall that Einstein's excuse involved the concept that a clock had a memory of its history of acceleration.

[Paradigmer]

I recall that Einstein's excuse involved the concept that a clock had a memory of its history of acceleration.

Could not find anything on what you had mentioned.

Nonetheless, it is a fact that the universe has a memory of its history for any past event, which is recorded in the time dilated image that could be perceived on different timeline. Berserk as it may be, it is a fact that this is possible.

Let just say, an advance civilization located 65 million year away from Earth, with its super capability telescope, people there can observe what wiped out the dinosaurs here.

I have no idea on how a clock could have a memory of its history of acceleration; information from radioactive decay is insufficient to record complex variations of historical acceleration. Update me if you find the link.

[syhprum]

I have a explanation why people are so keen to dismiss GR and SR , while on an engineering course at Siemens Hell in Kiel I quoted Einstein to the "ex" Nazi instructor his reply "but he was a Jew"l

[Bored chemist]

I have a explanation why people are so keen to dismiss GR and SR , while on an engineering at Siemens Hell in Kiel I quoted Einstein to the "ex" Nazi instructor his reply "but he was a Jew"l

Awkward...
But it does raise an interesting point.
There was a conference where a bunch of nazi scientists (I use the term loosely) under the direction of their government all pointed out "problems" with Einstein's theories.
He was asked what he thought about such a powerful and prestigious group  attacking his ideas.
His response was that, if they were actually correct, then a single undergraduate student pointing it out would be all that was needed.

So, we had a situation where the political forces went the other way- the nazi government was determined to undermine Einstein and his ideas.
Great  blessings of a powerful elite would rain down on anyone who could do it.

And yet, the Germans continued to try to build an atom bomb that could only work if he was correct.

So the idea that Einstein's theories are only supported by a political conspiracy is nonsense.
We know that when a political conspiracy tried to oppose them, it failed.

All that stuff about
 "

owadays big money hurts science, especially in theusofa.
And politics, especially in theusofa.
And Christians, especially in theusofa.

is nonsense.

[Paradigmer]

And this cult will lose face when the truth comes out (that SR & GR are fake, & aether exists)(that the BB is krapp)(that GWs are krapp)(the accelerating expanding universe is krapp)(etc etc etc).

You mentioned Prof Reg Cahill and his link to GW with assertions in another thread, so for a while I thought you agreed with the global warming science. Am glad you know that the GW science is crap, for it has absolutely flopped for its application of the contemporary scientific method, which is another crap when it comes to actuality.

Reality check by nature on the GW propositions, is underway.

Or have I mistaken your GW mentioned here, actually refers to gravitational wave?
Just read Prof Reg Cahill actually mentioned Earth climate is cooling, and IMO he was correct.

[Bored chemist]

Prof Reg Cahill actually mentioned Earth climate is cooling, and IMO he was correct.

It's not a matter of opinion, is it?
Either it's cooling or it isn't.
And the evidence says it's warming

[mad aetherist]

And this cult will lose face when the truth comes out (that SR & GR are fake, & aether exists)(that the BB is krapp)(that GWs are krapp)(the accelerating expanding universe is krapp)(etc etc etc).

You mentioned Prof Reg Cahill and his link to GW with assertions in another thread, so for a while I thought you agreed with the global warming science. Am glad you know that the GW science is crap, for it has absolutely flopped for its application of the contemporary scientific method, which is another crap when it comes to actuality.
Reality check by nature on the GW propositions, is underway. Or have I mistaken your GW mentioned here, actually refers to gravitational wave? Just read Prof Reg Cahill actually mentioned Earth climate is cooling, and IMO he was correct.

I realized later that the initials GW can mean global warming, however i did say GWs which infers that i meant gravity waves. Re global warming i believe that it is mainly man-made global warming. The question is not whether MMGW is real, u & everyone else should be krapping your pants that it might be real. All of the needed remedies are worthy in their own right -- renewable energy -- population control etc etc.

Cahill reckoned that we were entering or in a 30 yr cooling period, based i think on zener diode history or solar flare history or something.  This makes the MMGW problem worse, because if Cahill is correct then it means that cooling is presently masking the warming, & that when the cool period ends the warming will go ballistic.

The science for MMGW is ok.  However from my readings years ago i found that scientists had lied twice re MMGW. One Indian arsehole exaggerated re the melting of glaciers -- however recently it has been found that glaciers are indeed melting quickly -- but nonetheless he had lied. Another scientist resigned because he reckoned that the computer predictions for north Atlantic hurricanes were overblown -- & they were -- however we now find that north Atlantic hurricanes are accelerating -- but thems scientists had lied nonetheless.

And the lieing by Einsteinologists & their LIGO krapp re GWs can only make things more difficult for the credibility of the very  important science of MMGW.  A part of me is afraid that when the Einsteinian lies are revealed that the important science of MMGW will be more easily brushed aside.  There is no Plan B, there is no Planet B.

[Kryptid]

And the lieing by Einsteinologists & their LIGO krapp

Still going on about that LIGO conspiracy, eh?

[mad aetherist]

I have a explanation why people are so keen to dismiss GR and SR , while on an engineering at Siemens Hell in Kiel I quoted Einstein to the "ex" Nazi instructor his reply "but he was a Jew"l

Awkward...But it does raise an interesting point.
There was a conference where a bunch of nazi scientists (I use the term loosely) under the direction of their government all pointed out "problems" with Einstein's theories. He was asked what he thought about such a powerful and prestigious group  attacking his ideas.  His response was that, if they were actually correct, then a single undergraduate student pointing it out would be all that was needed.

So, we had a situation where the political forces went the other way- the nazi government was determined to undermine Einstein and his ideas.  Great  blessings of a powerful elite would rain down on anyone who could do it.
And yet, the Germans continued to try to build an atom bomb that could only work if he was correct.  So the idea that Einstein's theories are only supported by a political conspiracy is nonsense.  We know that when a political conspiracy tried to oppose them, it failed.

The Germans were correct. One German was wrong. The funny thing about the whole saga is not that non-Jews ganged up to oppose a Jew, it was that Jews ganged up to support a Jew (cant u see that?).  But the main opposition to Einstein came from non-Jews, eg Lorentz Poincare etc etc, & everyone in England.  At the same time Michelson a Polish Jew was the leader of the opposition. Silberstein a German Jew who supported SR & GR in the early days (probly No2 to Einstein) had by 1930 changed camps.

In any case SR & GR are not Jewish.  Einstein's wife Mileva invented most of that (the silly bits), & she wasnt Jewish. And all of the good (non-silly) bits were plagiarised from non-Jews.  So SR & GR is not Jewish.

However the Einsteins had managed to invent a theory that created a new classification of theories, this classification is theories that are proven wrong before they are invented.  Up till then we only had the classification of theories that are proven wrong after they are invented.  Its a bit like a Two Ronnies Sketch.  I can see Ronnie Barker now, announcing to little Ronnie -- U have selected for your topic theories that have been proven wrong before they were invented, u have 60 seconds & your time starts now......
Little Ronnie -- Yes.  Big Ronnie -- Wrong -- u did not have 60 seconds, because we could not synchronize the studio clock with the BBC clock.

All that stuff about "

Nowadays big money hurts science, especially in theusofa.
And politics, especially in theusofa.
And Christians, especially in theusofa.

is nonsense.

Are u saying that big money & politics & Christians are not hurting science, or are u saying that it aint especially in theusofa.  Either way that doesnt even need an answer from me.

[mad aetherist]

And the lieing by Einsteinologists & their LIGO krapp

Still going on about that LIGO conspiracy, eh?

I think that there must be a conspiracy surrounding LIGO & Co, ie not just inside LIGO.  It will be interesting to see how the GW stuff develops.  They already got their Nobel.

[Kryptid]

I think that there must be a conspiracy surrounding LIGO & Co, ie not just inside LIGO. 

What evidence do you have for such a conspiracy?

[mad aetherist]

I think that there must be a conspiracy surrounding LIGO & Co, ie not just inside LIGO.

What evidence do you have for such a conspiracy?

The evidence of a conspiracy inside LIGO is in the results, ie they have some. 
The evidence of a conspiracy reaching outside LIGO is in the agreement of results. I think that this shows collusion.  If the collusion is good then it is collusion.  If it is sinister then it is conspiracy. 
The difference tween LIGO & TRUMP is that TRUMP has elections.  And has anyone seen LIGO's tax returns or birth certificate?

[Kryptid]

The evidence of a conspiracy inside LIGO is in the results, ie they have some. 
The evidence of a conspiracy reaching outside LIGO is in the agreement of results. I think that this shows collusion.

You're going to have to explain how this is evidence of a conspiracy. I don't see how that follows.

And please, please don't respond with something ridiculous along the lines of, "since relativity is wrong, any positive results that LIGO, VIRGO or other gravitational wave detectors obtained must have been put there by a conspiracy," because that would be one of the worst cases of the "begging the question" fallacy I have ever seen: https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/53/Begging-the-Question

[mad aetherist]

The evidence of a conspiracy inside LIGO is in the results, ie they have some. The evidence of a conspiracy reaching outside LIGO is in the agreement of results. I think that this shows collusion.

You're going to have to explain how this is evidence of a conspiracy. I don't see how that follows.
And please, please don't respond with something ridiculous along the lines of, "since relativity is wrong, any positive results that LIGO, VIRGO or other gravitational wave detectors obtained must have been put there by a conspiracy," because that would be one of the worst cases of the "begging the question" fallacy I have ever seen: https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/53/Begging-the-Question

Yes but if the winner of a cockfight quacks & lays an egg, & if u found out that LIGO bet $1 billion on the winner, then i call that evidence.

[Kryptid]

Yes but if the winner of a cockfight quacks & lays an egg, & if u found out that LIGO bet $1 billion on the winner, then i call that evidence.

I don't know what a cockfight has to do with anything. Can you rephrase that in plain English?

[mad aetherist]

Yes but if the winner of a cockfight quacks & lays an egg, & if u found out that LIGO bet $1 billion on the winner, then i call that evidence.

I don't know what a cockfight has to do with anything. Can you rephrase that in plain English?

I was alluding to Pres Reagan's joke re the Pole bringing a duck to the cockfight & the duck winning, u must be too young. 
http://kentmitchellsramblings.blogspot.com/2010/09/president-ronald-reagans-polish-italian.html
But LIGO employed a good artist to draw their chirps.  Praps their artist colluded with other's artists. Anyhow time will tell.  All it needs is one disgruntled scientist to write a book.