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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 31/10/2008 20:23:48 »
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How do you explain your condition to your family and co-workers? For me it would be just too big an embarassment to tell them the truth ...
Hi everyone!
I had the idea that since oxytocin is heavily involved in the chemistry of orgasms, it might be worth trying to supply my body with the necessary ingredients to produce more oxytocin.
Synthetic oxytocin is difficult to obtain and administer, so I thought I'd give Fenugreek a try, which is praised for its oxytocin-like properties. You can buy it at most heath stores I believe.
I took some of it before and after 2 lots of orgasms, and well ...
Wow!
I had work the next day, which normally would be an excruciating trial socially. Not that day it wasn't. I happily chatted to the boss about some complex issues, and spent a lot of the day chatting and flirting with a couple of my female co-workers .... something that would have been impossible under normal POIS circumstances.
The brain fog had been greatly reduced, while the social anxiety component of POIS had been almost completely eliminated! The following day was more of the same.
I don't want to get too excited too soon, I know drugs and herbs can become less effective as they are used more frequently, and the positive effects might not last forever. Also, maybe I have just had two particularly good days, and it will be back to normal during my next potential POIS episode.
If anybody else is thinking of taking it, it sounds very safe - in fact it is an ingredient in certain foods. Only pregnant women should stay away from Fenugreek. I'll carry on posting here as I continue taking fenugreek, I hope I will continue to have good news!
...Germany was the land for sexual research prior to the 1930's and...Hitler leveled it all to the ground.
Good thing it was leveled. If Hitler discovered POIS, he could've figured out a way to give it to the enemy []
I take it you don't like gays.
Well if you are wondering where your dopamine is at, maybe you should try to do somebody else.
WOW, IMRE1, FROM WHAT I WROTE, WHERE IN THE WORLD DID YOU GET THAT I "...DON'T LIKE GAYS" ? THERE IS SOME SERIOUS MISCOMMUNICATION HERE. PLEASE CLARIFY. THANKS.
...Germany was the land for sexual research prior to the 1930's and...Hitler leveled it all to the ground.
Good thing it was leveled. If Hitler discovered POIS, he could've figured out a way to give it to the enemy []
No money for POIS research because it's a small and rare population, which means pharmaceuticals (who have the largest research dollars to spend) can't make much money on it.
Other Observations:
- Difficulty connecting to people emotionally
- Feelings of despair and negativity
- Anhedonia/lack of joy and humor
- Lack of spontaneity and creativity
Hi all, this is my first posting on the forum…though I have been following most of the posts for the last couple of weeks. I must say that though I am displeased that anyone has to suffer from POIS, I am grateful that I’m not alone in this struggle. It’s nice to have companions on a difficult journey.
It’s hard to say when my POIS first began. I have always had a kind of mild low grade but always in the background form of depression ever since puberty started – which is about the same time I started masturbating and having orgasms. When I was younger POIS never really seemed to be present. Then gradually over the years I started to notice more of an effect (low energy after orgasm). At age 25 after a year of celibacy when I wanted to make sure everything was working ok I decided to have another orgasm. After that orgasm I notice a dramatic difference in the way my normal orgasmic response/cycle happens. What I noticed was that the next day after orgasm I felt like I had extremely low energy, I felt depressed, I had difficulty sleeping, anxiety (since I didn’t know what was going on) and a sluggish, dull, and grey mind.
I’m now 27 and doing everything in my power to try and heal or cope with this particular issue. Things that seem to provide at least some amount of alleviation for me personally are B vitamins (mostly activated B6 as well as B12), vitamin C, exercise, and a high protein diet – Pretty much what some of the posts on this forum have suggested.
However, even with all my effort I still have to cycle my orgasms 2 weeks apart minimum. I find though that it really takes me about three weeks to a month to get all the way back to normal.
My primary symptoms are:
- Very low energy after orgasm
- Difficulty sleeping (this has gotten better and happens only occasionally)
- Depression (the day after orgasm is the worst with each day after that getting slightly better)
- Mental Fog
Other Observations:
- Difficulty connecting to people emotionally
- Feelings of despair and negativity
- Anhedonia/lack of joy and humor
- Lack of spontaneity and creativity
After reading many posts it sounds like perhaps my POIS isn’t a serve case, maybe even on the milder side, however, it still sucks and I would like it to go away. That being said, I would like to make myself available to the forum to answer any questions regarding my personal experiences with POIS if it would be useful. My current plan of action is to get a thyroid test, look into nitric oxcide supplementation. Also, does anyone know of a way to supplement Nitric Oxide naturally? Foods? Garlic? -Best
At age 25 after a year of celibacy when I wanted to make sure everything was working ok I decided to have another orgasm.
I think someone in earlier post talked about reading a medical journal from 100 yrs ago that described a condition similar to pois.
One thing I have tried that has helped with my CFS and also to a partial degree with POIS, that is supposed to stimulate the circulatory system, is cayenne pepper. I read about a guy who had CFS who claimed cayenne pepper was a big factor in him regaining his health. Its health benefits were originally promoted by a Dr.Schultz. I have taken it all of this year in the morning and I think it has been a factor in my improving health. I have to admit I have only taken regular 'very hot' cayenne pepper powder. The advocates of this spice highly recommend taking super hot pepper with 100,000+HU rating, which I havent as yet, as its just not in shops.
HEY ACRONYM: Where do you get super hot cayenne? And how much do you take, and how?
Chronic excessive sex in the past alternates and exhausts the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal function. Likely drugs, sex is very addictive due to neuroplasticity. What do you think?
I can see how that makes sense. When i was younger and just discovered it I used to masturbate quite frequently. The problem is with society is there is a stigma talking about it and all that is said is that its fine and completely normal. I thought it was pretty much normal and natural. After 1 or 2 years i started noticing fatigue the following day so id limit myself to once every couple of days. and it just got worse after that xD
...you can for example dance for 6 hours no stop without getting tired, out of breath (an other one of those "I thought i would never do this again", and a trilion times more fun then sex).
imre1, are you saying dancing is way more fun than sex? If so...please post your dance steps.....NOW!! []
So far I've noticed increased fatigue, but not much else.
Anyway if your medication allows you to get out of your chair. This means an improvement in fitness. Even if, when you do some excercise, the pills need some time to adjust your heart rate and subsequently feel tiresome at first.
So far I've noticed increased fatigue, but not much else.
Imre1,
I forgot to answer one of your questions. Bisoprolol hasn't substantially decreased my sex drive. It may have decreased it to some extent, but it certainly hasn't completely eliminated sexual desire. (Unfortunately!). I'm on my first week of 10 mg/day. I've been taking 5 mg/day for the past month. We'll see how things change. So far I've noticed increased fatigue, but not much else.
Well, one might safely assume that ED and POIS are mutualy exclusive.Not exactly sure what you mean, but I have ED and POIS and Levitra "cures" about 75% of my POIS.
I like romantic stuff
elevated prolactin secretion can suppress the secretion of FSH and GnRH, leading to hypogonadism, and sometimes causing erectile dysfunction in men.
Today I received an e-mail of an unknown person who wrote me that men are desperate and that one man even removed his testicles.