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General Science => General Science => Topic started by: Joe L. Ogan on 02/12/2009 19:01:02
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Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I think that, if you could answer that, you may have solved the secret of the Universe. I have never seen anyone attempt to answer this question. Anyone care to try? Regards,
Joe L. Ogan
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At some point the chicken evolved. Whatever definition of DNA mix and match you call a chicken, it was present in an embryo bfore the egg formed round it.
Next question please.
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Why didn't the chicken keep on evolving instead of laying eggs? Oh, yes, And how did the first egg get fertilized? Regards, Joe L. Ogan
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To take it a step further (and possibly toward thr ridiculous) other species were laying eggs long before the chicken evolved!
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Why didn't the chicken keep on evolving instead of laying eggs? Oh, yes, And how did the first egg get fertilized? Regards, Joe L. Ogan
It may well have kept on evolving, but if it didn't lay eggs it and it's intrinsic "chickenness" would have died out.
The egg got fertilised in exactly the same way as they usually do. If you don't understand that ask your mum.
It's true that the first egg predates the first chicken by ages.
That makes it a pointless question.
The only way the question is worth asking is if you take it to mean "What came first, the chicken or the chicke's egg?"
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I understand how eggs get fertilized. But, if the egg came first, I do not know how that first egg got fertilized. Do you? Do you think Mom would know? ha ha Regards, Joe L. Ogan
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Maybe it was like an egg from another animal and then it got frozen in some ice and over hundreds of years as the ice started to build up and melt the thing inside evolved into a chicken! Okay...it made sense inside my head [:)]
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Yay, Chemistry4me is back! (I thought you got hit by a bus or so and actually started a post to find out).
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Haha, yes, thank you very much [:)]
As you can see, the bus has done wonders to my brain, just take note of my previous post.
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C4M!!!! As I live and breath.
Yep, that bus did a power of good, unfortunately, not for you! Nor us, it would appear.
I don't think you can say either the chicken or the egg came first. The chicken, and therefore its egg, evolved over a period of time. Ben has hit the nail on the head, the question should be, 'What came first, the _____________* or the egg?'
*Fill this space with the first egg laying animal, or rather, the first animal which laid an egg.
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i think it was the cock. [^]
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i think it was the cock. [^]
That's a load of balls.
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I agree, i think its impossible to answer! What makes it a chicken officially as separate from the species from which it evolved and thus a 'chicken'? Reproductive isolation? would that not occur slowly? i think so....
I did read in the paper once that a bunch of scientists had solved it, it had to be the egg as the egg can't hatch without a chicken sitting on top of it to keep it warm, ha! [;D]
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i think it started well before hens
(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.glaucus.org.uk%2FRoker-egg-case.JPG&hash=64a0349b1df01d5e55d4e04057e80b11)
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more questions and a thoery
does a crocodile split its chromosomes during the conception stage or are they all complete? Temperature decides what lives and dies!
Breeding albino crocs could become an exact science of temperature control.
So crocodiles close relatives are dinosaurs and also one of the bigger reptiles on earth so if crocodiles breed on a whole basis or even just close to it still after this many years what if dinosaurs bred in the same way that is whole DNA mixed with whole DNA creating temperature controlled sexes. So temperature of the earth at the time created floods of one sex either sexual component. So you have these floods of female or males. So this creates an imbalance and just say the female of the species was doing the whole evolution thing! Either competing for males or having somewhat of a stressful time picking a male. Going on to say that this stress caused the species to develop along with whatever else going on at that time like noxious gases etc. therefore when they layed their eggs all the DNA was mixed up in set rations. So the few eggs that hatched created to what we know today as birds and reptiles. Of course birds grew feathers and started sitting on their eggs and reptiles having bred started developing set male and female genes. In saying that I haven’t looked up DNA that makes up reptiles cause I’m lazy. Crocodiles over the stage of evolution some may have started to bury their eggs deep in the ground sort of like turtles and others just layed a few eggs on the ground. Possibly they always layed their eggs in nests but depending on rivers flooding or not depended on whether males or female were created.