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Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 17:19:32Quote from: Kryptid on 28/09/2017 17:00:10Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 14:35:01Do you still think they look the same now? Yes, because they are literally the exact same image. I can't help but wonder if you are trolling these forums.Huh/ Other people understood the original with simplicity on here and elsewhere so why do you seem to be having difficulty understanding something so simple as two observations that look the same but are indeed very different? If you can't see any difference in looking at a piece of coal close up (localised) and looking between the distance stars, then we really have no business to discuss between us because the observations are simple to understand. Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 17:36:33 space.jpg (110.68 kB . 1600x900 - viewed 8639 times)I have zoomed out on both drawings just for you. coal.jpg (52.84 kB . 450x300 - viewed 8598 times)Liar - they are not the same pictures as you posted above. Also who 'understood the original with simplicity on here and elsewhere'.Kryptid's point about you trolling forums is valid - you have admitted this elsewhere.
Quote from: Kryptid on 28/09/2017 17:00:10Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 14:35:01Do you still think they look the same now? Yes, because they are literally the exact same image. I can't help but wonder if you are trolling these forums.Huh/ Other people understood the original with simplicity on here and elsewhere so why do you seem to be having difficulty understanding something so simple as two observations that look the same but are indeed very different? If you can't see any difference in looking at a piece of coal close up (localised) and looking between the distance stars, then we really have no business to discuss between us because the observations are simple to understand.
Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 14:35:01Do you still think they look the same now? Yes, because they are literally the exact same image. I can't help but wonder if you are trolling these forums.
Do you still think they look the same now?
space.jpg (110.68 kB . 1600x900 - viewed 8639 times)I have zoomed out on both drawings just for you. coal.jpg (52.84 kB . 450x300 - viewed 8598 times)
If you can't see any difference in looking at a piece of coal close up (localised) and looking between the distance stars, then we really have no business to discuss between us because the observations are simple to understand.
Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 17:19:32If you can't see any difference in looking at a piece of coal close up (localised) and looking between the distance stars, then we really have no business to discuss between us because the observations are simple to understand. It's not a picture of a piece of coal up close or a picture of the space between stars. It's a picture of a black rectangle that you created either in MS Paint or some similar program that you uploaded twice.
Omg, it is not rocket science to 'see' what they represent. What do you see if you observed coal close up? What do you see if you zoom in between the stars ?
The two above diagrams are different , one is black in colour and one has no colour and is clear.
I can tell you the same thing I do as in my pictures. Just because it is bitmap it doesn't mean its not the same as a photo.
Zoom in on the coal or the ''darkness'' between the stars is the same picture. Pffffff......
Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 21:09:06Omg, it is not rocket science to 'see' what they represent. What do you see if you observed coal close up? What do you see if you zoom in between the stars ?You said explicitly that your two diagrams were different, not that they represented different things. Look:QuoteThe two above diagrams are different , one is black in colour and one has no colour and is clear. QuoteI can tell you the same thing I do as in my pictures. Just because it is bitmap it doesn't mean its not the same as a photo.First of all, it's a .jpg, not a .bmp. Secondly, if you didn't take it with a camera of some kind then it can't be a photograph.QuoteZoom in on the coal or the ''darkness'' between the stars is the same picture. Pffffff...... Neither of which is a black rectangle created in a computer program.
Are you being intentionally obtuse or what? The pictures are different because I already said they were different. The black rectangles are the exact same picture as if I had took a photo. It would not look any different in photo form. It is not me, it is you that is not being imaginative, creative and even thinking. My explanations explained it without the pictures. Either way do you get it now? Do you understand the difference in the ''pictures''?
Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 21:31:04Are you being intentionally obtuse or what? The pictures are different because I already said they were different. The black rectangles are the exact same picture as if I had took a photo. It would not look any different in photo form. It is not me, it is you that is not being imaginative, creative and even thinking. My explanations explained it without the pictures. Either way do you get it now? Do you understand the difference in the ''pictures''?If you say so...
Okay. I'll play along with your thought experiment.Let's say that one image is a photo of a piece of Vantablack. The other is a photo of a cosmic void. Yes, they look exactly the same. In both instances, there is no discernible visible radiation striking the camera's CCD. What does that prove?
Quote from: The Spoon on 28/09/2017 18:34:41Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 17:19:32Quote from: Kryptid on 28/09/2017 17:00:10Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 14:35:01Do you still think they look the same now? Yes, because they are literally the exact same image. I can't help but wonder if you are trolling these forums.Huh/ Other people understood the original with simplicity on here and elsewhere so why do you seem to be having difficulty understanding something so simple as two observations that look the same but are indeed very different? If you can't see any difference in looking at a piece of coal close up (localised) and looking between the distance stars, then we really have no business to discuss between us because the observations are simple to understand. Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 17:36:33 space.jpg (110.68 kB . 1600x900 - viewed 8639 times)I have zoomed out on both drawings just for you. coal.jpg (52.84 kB . 450x300 - viewed 8598 times)Liar - they are not the same pictures as you posted above. Also who 'understood the original with simplicity on here and elsewhere'.Kryptid's point about you trolling forums is valid - you have admitted this elsewhere. Arrr got ye now, this is nothing to do with science really and there is now a few of you on here who have the aim to try and get me banned by accusing me of being a troll. So first you come on here pretending to listen and discuss to gain some sort of credibility , then this is now the part that you try to get me banned. You are now even calling me a liar which is rather rude when I have spent the time thinking how to explain something so simple. I can't believe I let you troll me and will not bother discussing with you anymore. I will await somebody who is genuine.
Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 20:36:06Quote from: The Spoon on 28/09/2017 18:34:41Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 17:19:32Quote from: Kryptid on 28/09/2017 17:00:10Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 14:35:01Do you still think they look the same now? Yes, because they are literally the exact same image. I can't help but wonder if you are trolling these forums.Huh/ Other people understood the original with simplicity on here and elsewhere so why do you seem to be having difficulty understanding something so simple as two observations that look the same but are indeed very different? If you can't see any difference in looking at a piece of coal close up (localised) and looking between the distance stars, then we really have no business to discuss between us because the observations are simple to understand. Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 17:36:33 space.jpg (110.68 kB . 1600x900 - viewed 8639 times)I have zoomed out on both drawings just for you. coal.jpg (52.84 kB . 450x300 - viewed 8598 times)Liar - they are not the same pictures as you posted above. Also who 'understood the original with simplicity on here and elsewhere'.Kryptid's point about you trolling forums is valid - you have admitted this elsewhere. Arrr got ye now, this is nothing to do with science really and there is now a few of you on here who have the aim to try and get me banned by accusing me of being a troll. So first you come on here pretending to listen and discuss to gain some sort of credibility , then this is now the part that you try to get me banned. You are now even calling me a liar which is rather rude when I have spent the time thinking how to explain something so simple. I can't believe I let you troll me and will not bother discussing with you anymore. I will await somebody who is genuine. But you lied about the pictures didnt you? Those two black squares are not 'zoomed in ' parts of the coal jpeg and the space jpeg, so my accusation stands.
Quote from: The Spoon on 28/09/2017 21:55:35Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 20:36:06Quote from: The Spoon on 28/09/2017 18:34:41Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 17:19:32Quote from: Kryptid on 28/09/2017 17:00:10Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 14:35:01Do you still think they look the same now? Yes, because they are literally the exact same image. I can't help but wonder if you are trolling these forums.Huh/ Other people understood the original with simplicity on here and elsewhere so why do you seem to be having difficulty understanding something so simple as two observations that look the same but are indeed very different? If you can't see any difference in looking at a piece of coal close up (localised) and looking between the distance stars, then we really have no business to discuss between us because the observations are simple to understand. Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 17:36:33 space.jpg (110.68 kB . 1600x900 - viewed 8639 times)I have zoomed out on both drawings just for you. coal.jpg (52.84 kB . 450x300 - viewed 8598 times)Liar - they are not the same pictures as you posted above. Also who 'understood the original with simplicity on here and elsewhere'.Kryptid's point about you trolling forums is valid - you have admitted this elsewhere. Arrr got ye now, this is nothing to do with science really and there is now a few of you on here who have the aim to try and get me banned by accusing me of being a troll. So first you come on here pretending to listen and discuss to gain some sort of credibility , then this is now the part that you try to get me banned. You are now even calling me a liar which is rather rude when I have spent the time thinking how to explain something so simple. I can't believe I let you troll me and will not bother discussing with you anymore. I will await somebody who is genuine. But you lied about the pictures didnt you? Those two black squares are not 'zoomed in ' parts of the coal jpeg and the space jpeg, so my accusation stands. No I didn't lie because that's what they represented, I put the coal in and the space picture in to help Kryptid understand. They could well be a zoomed in picture of the coal and the space. That was the representation so no i did not lie.
Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 22:00:50Quote from: The Spoon on 28/09/2017 21:55:35Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 20:36:06Quote from: The Spoon on 28/09/2017 18:34:41Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 17:19:32Quote from: Kryptid on 28/09/2017 17:00:10Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 14:35:01Do you still think they look the same now? Yes, because they are literally the exact same image. I can't help but wonder if you are trolling these forums.Huh/ Other people understood the original with simplicity on here and elsewhere so why do you seem to be having difficulty understanding something so simple as two observations that look the same but are indeed very different? If you can't see any difference in looking at a piece of coal close up (localised) and looking between the distance stars, then we really have no business to discuss between us because the observations are simple to understand. Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 17:36:33 space.jpg (110.68 kB . 1600x900 - viewed 8639 times)I have zoomed out on both drawings just for you. coal.jpg (52.84 kB . 450x300 - viewed 8598 times)Liar - they are not the same pictures as you posted above. Also who 'understood the original with simplicity on here and elsewhere'.Kryptid's point about you trolling forums is valid - you have admitted this elsewhere. Arrr got ye now, this is nothing to do with science really and there is now a few of you on here who have the aim to try and get me banned by accusing me of being a troll. So first you come on here pretending to listen and discuss to gain some sort of credibility , then this is now the part that you try to get me banned. You are now even calling me a liar which is rather rude when I have spent the time thinking how to explain something so simple. I can't believe I let you troll me and will not bother discussing with you anymore. I will await somebody who is genuine. But you lied about the pictures didnt you? Those two black squares are not 'zoomed in ' parts of the coal jpeg and the space jpeg, so my accusation stands. No I didn't lie because that's what they represented, I put the coal in and the space picture in to help Kryptid understand. They could well be a zoomed in picture of the coal and the space. That was the representation so no i did not lie. They could well be? So what you did was put a couple of pictures up that were completely black because 'they could well be a zoomed pciture of space and coal'? You kind of thought 'oh, well that will do' ? Sloppy thinking - that is you all over.
I am sick of science telling me I am wrong,
Quote from: Thebox on 28/06/2017 21:20:49I am sick of science telling me I am wrong, Start being right instead.
It proves that space itself is neither dark or light , it proves we see visible light of objects and visible dark of objects. Basically turning darkness into a property of an object.
Dark is not a something
In the present version dark is not something, but in my version dark is something. In future science dark will be something. I am not wrong.