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Quote from: Starsky on 02/09/2011 21:43:18Quote from: carlitto on 02/09/2011 19:59:41Is Vandemolen still around? I haven't read any posts from him in a while... especially interesting are his updates on the desensitization he was getting at Dr Waldinger's!I got this message from him:I am fine. Thanks. I feel relief. I think I have 40 % less symptoms. Now I have only 2 days of POIS. Before the therapy 4 days. Now day 1 is like how day 2 used to be. And day 2 is like day 4.I am now on 1/70 of dillution. Next Thursday I will have a 1/50 shot. And about 6 weeks I will be on the maximum: 1/20. Then the relief should go faster. In light of these great results by vandemolen, those of you still looking for doctors to do semen allergy shouldnt give up. Within my small state i have found two doctors that are willing to do the therapy. One of them changed his mind though because of distance but another one has agreed to do it (hopefully he dosnt change his mind). my advice for searching; check every nook and corner try university hospital doctorstry independent doctors(the ones that have agreed to do it were independent doctors)whenever i sent them messages: i included dr waldingers papers and other papers, my psychologist letter proving my mental symptoms, and results from dr bewtra in creighton university, and a sob letter discribing how pois is destroying my life and now you can add proofs that it is helping others you know.
Quote from: carlitto on 02/09/2011 19:59:41Is Vandemolen still around? I haven't read any posts from him in a while... especially interesting are his updates on the desensitization he was getting at Dr Waldinger's!I got this message from him:I am fine. Thanks. I feel relief. I think I have 40 % less symptoms. Now I have only 2 days of POIS. Before the therapy 4 days. Now day 1 is like how day 2 used to be. And day 2 is like day 4.I am now on 1/70 of dillution. Next Thursday I will have a 1/50 shot. And about 6 weeks I will be on the maximum: 1/20. Then the relief should go faster.
Is Vandemolen still around? I haven't read any posts from him in a while... especially interesting are his updates on the desensitization he was getting at Dr Waldinger's!
Mellivora, B_Daniel, Willem, Limejuice, Habibou and all: your concerns are well expressed and legitimate. Daveman and I will bring this up with Stefanie when she returns from a leave of absence in a few weeks. Many thanks for speaking your mind!Demo
Oh my god...I thought I was alone with this!Ever since I was 13, every time I orgasmed, I felt the usual relaxation which I assumed was normal. But hours later and even the next day or two, the tiredness stayed. Post-orgasm, I feel lethargic, I can't think as clear as usual, time feels like it's moving too fast, I feel physically sore, I'm also prone to migraines and acne in the days following. I always thought I was crazy for thinking there was an actual problem and doctors said it was all in my head, but I knew it wasn't.I'm 18 now, and it's been a constant internal battle. I fight with myself to not masturbate or have sex, but every once in awhile I give in and I'm finished for 2 days. I always thought how unfair it was how other guys could have sex/masturbate 5 times in a night and still have energy, while if I do it once, I'm mentally and physically exhausted for days. I'm so glad I finally found out there's more people like me xD Does anybody have any recommendations on something to take/do to get rid of these debilitating symptoms? And could someone explain what's even going on?
It's an exciting time for POIS with several people reporting positive results from treatments like Niacin (many members) and desensitization (Vandemolen and myself), and some confirmed cases of testosterone (Demo), desensitization (2 cases in Waldinger's paper) and "male hysterectomy" (Animus) working. There's hope!
Quote from: Ryuk on 08/09/2011 19:53:46Oh my god...I thought I was alone with this!Ever since I was 13, every time I orgasmed, I felt the usual relaxation which I assumed was normal. But hours later and even the next day or two, the tiredness stayed. Post-orgasm, I feel lethargic, I can't think as clear as usual, time feels like it's moving too fast, I feel physically sore, I'm also prone to migraines and acne in the days following. I always thought I was crazy for thinking there was an actual problem and doctors said it was all in my head, but I knew it wasn't.I'm 18 now, and it's been a constant internal battle. I fight with myself to not masturbate or have sex, but every once in awhile I give in and I'm finished for 2 days. I always thought how unfair it was how other guys could have sex/masturbate 5 times in a night and still have energy, while if I do it once, I'm mentally and physically exhausted for days. I'm so glad I finally found out there's more people like me xD Does anybody have any recommendations on something to take/do to get rid of these debilitating symptoms? And could someone explain what's even going on?Welcome Ryuk! We're here to help you and I'm assuming you'll learn a lot about our condition in the coming months. It's an exciting time for POIS with several people reporting positive results from treatments like Niacin (many members) and desensitization (Vandemolen and myself), and some confirmed cases of testosterone (Demo), desensitization (2 cases in Waldinger's paper) and "male hysterectomy" (Animus) working. There's hope!
But if we speak only about the refractory period, if it's true that Pois makes the refractory period longer, what can be done to make the refractory period shorter and recover sooner the lost sexual potency?[/b]Has anyone experienced in medications with this objective in mind?
Hello Willem,could you please again summarize a bit your desensitization treatment1- when did you start and where2- how many injections have you received till now and concentrations3- percent of improvement you are feeling4- fresh or frozen samples each time?can't wait to hear it is working for you! thanks
Oh my god...I thought I was alone with this!.....
Quote from: Quasar on 09/09/2011 00:47:01But if we speak only about the refractory period, if it's true that Pois makes the refractory period longer, what can be done to make the refractory period shorter and recover sooner the lost sexual potency?[/b]Has anyone experienced in medications with this objective in mind?So i did some reading on the refractory period. I don't know how many hormones/whatnot are part of this process, but I read from a few different sources that one of the main ones is Prolactin. Prolactin makes you feel tired and groggy. It's what some drug addicts experience pretty badly when they're going cold-turkey away from drugs. The body elevates prolactin after sex, which in turn decreases oxytocin "cuddle hormone" and dopamine. So, from an evolutionary standpoint, after a male has sex, Prolactin levels are raised to decrease the male's appetite for more sex. It's a signal to the man that he has spread his seed and now the job is over. I took Vitex berry for a couple months, which is the foremost supplement known to reduce prolactin. I also had bloodwork to check my Prolactin levels, and I had it checked during a terrible POIS episode. It was within the normal range. That experience has helped me to conclude that POIS is not just a lengthened refractory period.I'm just one data point though.
I'm just one data point though.
Quote from: B_Daniel on 09/09/2011 22:37:12I'm just one data point though.Gee.....and here I thought you were a swell human being.....where did I go wrong??? []
2. The quote Horizon provided from reference.com is fascinating. It basically states that all people can be allergic to their own semen: "Sperm are immunogenic - that is they will cause an autoimmune reaction if transplanted from the testis into a different part of the body." This raises the question of whether intradermal tests actually tell us anything. Furthermore, as many have pointed out, and as one allergy dr. my endocrinologist phoned during my appointment immediately identified, there is no control group in Waldinger's work. According to the research cited, the photos Habibou shared do not show anything unexpected.