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Title: Theory on Atoms in relativity to The Solar System
Post by: nathant500 on 06/01/2016 03:07:17
So I've been studying mathematics at college but I've also had some science courses, and through this I started to notice a weird comparison, the solar system has a very similar structure to an atom, and when I cross referenced this, including known dwarf planets, its possible to say that all of the planets and moons exist as electrons, and that the sun is the nucleus. The result is 162 which to balance the element needs 162 protons, thus making element 162 which has yet to be identified, its a element that works in all tests I've done to prove using the solar system as a reference, and it has a full valence shell when following the 8 per level rule, and when using the rule or scaling electrons per layer, you're able to make an exact remake of the solar system, the electrons are in this case grouped up around a single, bigger electron, which i have yet to get an explanation for how but I'm just rolling with it for now. If this becomes a topic of interest ill post more on how this makes sense but for now I'm trying to see if someone else has already proven/disproved this before i put a lot more effort in. Thanks for any help and it'll be cool to see if this is something that I'm the original thinker on. BTW Soltarium is a random name I've given to it for now since i have no idea how advanced it will be, The name would probably be changed if it were to be real and possible.
Title: Re: Theory on Atoms in relativity to The Solar System
Post by: guest39538 on 07/01/2016 09:56:39
So I've been studying mathematics at college but I've also had some science courses, and through this I started to notice a weird comparison, the solar system has a very similar structure to an atom, and when I cross referenced this, including known dwarf planets, its possible to say that all of the planets and moons exist as electrons, and that the sun is the nucleus. The result is 162 which to balance the element needs 162 protons, thus making element 162 which has yet to be identified, its a element that works in all tests I've done to prove using the solar system as a reference, and it has a full valence shell when following the 8 per level rule, and when using the rule or scaling electrons per layer, you're able to make an exact remake of the solar system, the electrons are in this case grouped up around a single, bigger electron, which i have yet to get an explanation for how but I'm just rolling with it for now. If this becomes a topic of interest ill post more on how this makes sense but for now I'm trying to see if someone else has already proven/disproved this before i put a lot more effort in. Thanks for any help and it'll be cool to see if this is something that I'm the original thinker on. BTW Soltarium is a random name I've given to it for now since i have no idea how advanced it will be, The name would probably be changed if it were to be real and possible.

I don't think your idea is a new idea....
Title: Re: Theory on Atoms in relativity to The Solar System
Post by: chiralSPO on 07/01/2016 13:54:24
The structures of an atom and solar system are not analogous.

Electrons don't actually orbit the nucleus of an atom, even if we refer to the electrons as being in atomic orbitals.

The force binding electrons to the nucleus is electrostatic, while the force binding planets to the stars is gravitational. This means that planets and moons are also attracted to each other, whereas electrons repel each other. One of the implications here is that an atom with a specific nucleus will only be neutral when it has a specific number of electrons, and adding more electrons will become increasingly difficult as negative charge builds up in the atom (ion), whereas there is no diminishing returns for adding planets to a solar system--no special ratio between planets and star.

All electrons are identical, but there is great diversity among planets (masses range over several orders of magnitude, compositions varies wildly, etc.)

In short, the only major similarity between solar systems and atoms is that each is a (relatively) stable collection of pieces, where the bit in the middle is more massive, and is surrounded by less massive pieces.
Title: Re: Theory on Atoms in relativity to The Solar System
Post by: nathant500 on 08/01/2016 01:54:11
Thank you for that, this was something that I came up with in the middle of studying in the middle of the night and its nice for it to be disproved, while it would've been cooler to have been possible or proven its nice that i can lay this theory to rest in my head.  [;D]
Title: Re: Theory on Atoms in relativity to The Solar System
Post by: chiralSPO on 08/01/2016 02:20:53
I know the feeling!  [;D]