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Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: AllenG on 06/01/2010 19:27:44
This is in Georgia.
The last time the pond froze was when I was a small child.
I wonder where I can buy some ice skates around here.


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Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: AllenG on 06/01/2010 20:25:24
^^^
A short video of me sliding around.

Anyone have a spare set of skates?
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: RD on 06/01/2010 21:55:13
Careful now ...

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2 Men Drown in Icy Lake Trying to Save Dog

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/12/21/national/main6006781.shtml
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: AllenG on 06/01/2010 22:50:11
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The twin playing Jesus

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Me doing the same

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The inevitable

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Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: Bass on 07/01/2010 00:48:31
What part of Georgia (I spent way too many years in Rabun County).
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: AllenG on 07/01/2010 04:19:19
The Republic of Georgia, Comrade?

But seriously, maybe lakes freeze differently in Georgia, but that ice doesn't look thick enough to me.  In New England, it pretty much becomes opaque.  What you're standing on looks as thin as paper, honest, like the frozen crust on a puddle.  Someone is shown falling on it without it cracking, so that sorta proofs it.  But it still looks freaky.

Old timers (perhaps a couple/few hundred years ago) used lakes in winter as their trash dump.  They'd haul their trash to the center of the ice.  When it thawed in the spring, the trash would end up on the bottom in the middle of the lake.  How else to get it all there, in a rowboat?
The Republic of Georgia, Comrade?

But seriously, maybe lakes freeze differently in Georgia, but that ice doesn't look thick enough to me.  In New England, it pretty much becomes opaque.  What you're standing on looks as thin as paper, honest, like the frozen crust on a puddle.  Someone is shown falling on it without it cracking, so that sorta proofs it.  But it still looks freaky.

Old timers (perhaps a couple/few hundred years ago) used lakes in winter as their trash dump.  They'd haul their trash to the center of the ice.  When it thawed in the spring, the trash would end up on the bottom in the middle of the lake.  How else to get it all there, in a rowboat?

It's about 3-4 inches thick and the end of the pond where we were walking is around knee deep at best.

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Those bubbles are ~2 inches across.
You can see how they are stacked how the ice has increased in thickness the past few days.
The bubbles are methane by the way; you can press a stick or paddle into the bottom and it just bubbles up (when the lake is not frozen that is). 
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: JimBob on 07/01/2010 21:55:26
Not quite a methane hydrate but it is getting there.
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: Make it Lady on 07/01/2010 22:24:21
I have the same methane problem!
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: RD on 07/01/2010 22:32:38
... your "ice" could burn!!!   [:0] [:0]


Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: JimBob on 07/01/2010 23:13:23
I have the same methane problem!

And they are called F_ _ T S.  right?
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: JimBob on 07/01/2010 23:14:59
Oh - and the wind chill here right now is about 0 F (-18C)
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: AllenG on 08/01/2010 05:21:03
We had snow flurries today.
The pond went from being a piece of Waterford crystal to frosted in about 3 mins.

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Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: AllenG on 08/01/2010 05:26:58
What part of Georgia (I spent way too many years in Rabun County).
Near Monroe, about 30 miles west of Athens.
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: RD on 10/01/2010 20:28:44
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BBC News channel
Tuesday, 22 December 2009
Witnesses saw two men go into the [ice covered] lake to rescue a dog on Monday.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/northamptonshire/8426088.stm

Like the example above (http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=27957.msg294182#msg294182) the dog survives, but the dog owner and the person attempts to rescue the dog owner don't.
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: RD on 11/01/2010 15:10:53
The four legged don't always make it though, e.g. this fox-icle  ...

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This hungry fox ended up a victim of the sub-zero temperatures when it chased a duck across an ice-covered lake - and froze to death. The scene was captured by photographer Tim Woodcock, at Ashlett Mill Pond, near Southampton, Hants
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/picturesoftheday/6965982/Pictures-of-the-day-11-January-2010.html
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: AllenG on 11/01/2010 21:24:34
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That would be a five inch thick slab I cut out of the pond with a chainsaw.
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: yor_on on 16/01/2010 23:57:32
Modern art?

Get a pedestal for it.
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: AllenG on 17/01/2010 04:22:17
I'm keeping it in the freezer.
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: yor_on on 17/01/2010 07:47:43
Yeah, sweet photo :)

Maybe the start of a great collection too?
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: AllenG on 17/01/2010 17:57:52
Yeah, sweet photo :)

Maybe the start of a great collection too?
The crowing piece in a great collection.
I have water samples from all over the world.
The Atlantic, the Pacific, the Mississippi River, the Amazon, glacial melt water from Canada, the Trevi Fountain, water from the Roman baths in Bath, England. 18 samples so far.
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: RD on 17/01/2010 20:11:37
I'm keeping it in the freezer.

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... about 10 percent of the bacteria in contaminated water can withstand weeks of freezing.
http://www.nytimes.com/1985/07/02/science/even-frozen-and-dunked-in-alcohol-lurking-bacteria-menace-travelers.html
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: yor_on on 17/01/2010 20:35:23
Totally cool AllenG.
I'm impressed.

You need to move somewhere where you really can have them exposed.
It would be an expose that I would check out :)

I mean it, it catches my imagination that one.
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: RD on 18/01/2010 04:01:43
Modern art?

Get a pedestal for it.


This guy is ahead of you ...

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Self is a self-portrait cast of the artist's head made in 2006 from his own blood and then frozen.
http://www.npg.org.uk/support/donation/past-appeals/marc-quinn.php
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: geo driver on 18/01/2010 04:32:50
you meen you took the green stuff from the bath house or the clear drinking stuff from the pump house in bath
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: AllenG on 18/01/2010 19:01:30
The green stuff.
It's more clear than what came out of the Mississippi.
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: yor_on on 18/01/2010 20:54:41
I don't think I want to see that one :)
Think if it melts, and the cops come.

How do I explain it?
Title: Ice skating in Georgia?
Post by: geo driver on 19/01/2010 15:59:40
noice noice the green stuff was suposed to have healing qualitys, but i recon the seeping yourself in hot water is bound to make you feel good. oh no my back hurts ill soak in hnot water.... its a miracle my back feels better and the muscles seem less stressed