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On the Lighter Side => That CAN'T be true! => Topic started by: learningalways on 21/10/2015 18:03:21

Title: Is modern scientific thinking failing?
Post by: learningalways on 21/10/2015 18:03:21

 The reality of atmospheric/near space nomalies and all its implications is arguably the biggest revelation in human history. But after more than 50 years of clear indications of this reality academia/scientific community continues to ignore/dismiss and many times actively deny the reality of anomalies.

 This is not a unique instance in the history of science where Official Science denied or ignored the reality of new facts or ideas, far from it, many times the scientific community had been behind on new developments, the denial of the reality of meteorites by the French Academy of Sciences when the idea about their reality was first exposed is just one example of that.

 Related to this is the suppression of new ideas in scientific circles, the "herd/group mentality" is deeply rooted in academia today and that lead to the rejection of ideas that are not socially accepted. The suppression of new ideas in academic circles is not as rare as many may think. A quick search in the literature will reveal that this had been documented multiple times.

 Reductionism is deeply rooted in modern scientific thinking, the wide use of parsimony: the "principle" that a reduced set of properties/axioms can be used to "explain" reality. Obviously this is the result of emulating the "success" of that approach in Mathematics. Sometimes we see the extreme of that reductionist approach in the search for a "theory of everything". But even in Mathematics that approach had been proved to have intrinsic limitations with the Godel's incompleteness theorems.

 This reductionist mentality lead to complacency because it assumes that almost all new phenomena can be explained/reduced to known manifestations even more in phenomena that can look at first sight as a normal occurrence, the tendency to dismiss such occurences as mundane is everywhere.

 But the reality of anomalies, that can be verified by anyone by direct observations, clearly shows the colossal failure of modern academic thinking. That failure is even more stressed by the fact that the reality of anomalies was revealed and continue to be documented by people with no academic ties and people in academia still are unable to touch the topic betraying with that their social mandate.

Title: Re: Is modern scientific thinking failing?
Post by: chris on 23/10/2015 07:57:56

Can you tell us more about these anomalies that science has been ignoring?

Title: Re: Is modern scientific thinking failing?
Post by: Bored chemist on 24/10/2015 14:26:21

These anomalies that science has been ignoring.
Who discovered them? farmers? Flower arrangers?
Or, just maybe, scientists?

Title: Re: Is modern scientific thinking failing?
Post by: jeffreyw on 02/11/2015 16:12:30

Rocks falling from the sky? I don't believe it! Impossible! I guess farmers aren't really scientists so its obvious they don't know what they're talking about!

Title: Re: Is modern scientific thinking failing?
Post by: Aemilius on 13/11/2015 21:47:23

Hello Dr. Smith....

Quote from: chris on 23/10/2015 07:57:56

Can you tell us more about these anomalies that science has been ignoring?

Anomalies? Well, here's (http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=49603.msg440497#msg440497=url) one for you.... How in the course of any natural progressive gravity driven structural failure (choose any mode or combination of modes you wish) of any steel frame building like that depicted/described below could Stage 1 (approximately 7 feet) have conceivably created or matched the exceptionless condition, as Dr. Calverd (http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=49603.msg440497#msg440497=url) put it, "....under which a body is, literally, free to fall under the influence of the local gravitational field with no resistance to its acceleration." required to explain the observed rate of descent of the upper part of the building as a single unit during Stage 2 (approximately 105 feet)....

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.postimg.org%2Fdl7ec06xr%2Foie_animation.gif&hash=34c600fe6f1ad7462430f1e4327c25bd)

....What's your take?

Title: Re: Is modern scientific thinking failing?
Post by: alysdexia on 25/01/2016 08:40:19

Stage 2's average slope is 9·5 m/s^2, 97% of gravity.  Too bad there were no error bars other than the size of the dots.

Maybe the column buckling itself drew the upper floors' columns near free fall.

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