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Title: Grrr !!...Why Do Software Updates Remove The Volume Bar From The Taskbar ?
Post by: neilep on 10/11/2011 20:33:12
Grrrrrrrrrr !!

I luff windows...I hate Windows !!...

I luff them because they are great for letting me see what's outside and I hate them because every time I get a friggin Windows update (Vista !!..yep..VISTA [xx(] [xx(])...the volume Icon gets removed from my task-bar !..not only that but when I go to the properties...it's greyed out so I can't even instruct the computer to put it back there as an option !!


I have to restart the computer AGAIN ...for it to be made available as an option !!


why's that then ? Why Do Updates Mess Up My Volume Icon Thingy ?

grrrrrrrrrr !!!

Title: Re: Grrr !!...Why Do Software Updates Remove The Volume Bar From The Taskbar ?
Post by: syhprum on 12/11/2011 14:42:36
Why are you using an olde worlde system like Vista ?, get with it and graduate to windows 7 or even windows 8 which you can get for free
Title: Re: Grrr !!...Why Do Software Updates Remove The Volume Bar From The Taskbar ?
Post by: neilep on 12/11/2011 18:01:02
Why are you using an olde worlde system like Vista ?, get with it and graduate to windows 7 or even windows 8 which you can get for free

Windows 8 for free !!??...gimmee gimmee !!..thanks Syhprum  [;D]
Title: Re: Grrr !!...Why Do Software Updates Remove The Volume Bar From The Taskbar ?
Post by: syhprum on 15/11/2011 17:51:28
Here it is, it seems a bit strange at first but you will soon get used to it.
This free version only runs for six months but I expect it will be possible before long to download fully activated versions from file sharing sites.


http://windows8beta.com/2011/09/download-now-windows-8-developer-preview

This maybe a better site

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516

64 and 32 bit versions
Title: Re: Grrr !!...Why Do Software Updates Remove The Volume Bar From The Taskbar ?
Post by: RD on 27/11/2011 22:20:50
... I expect it will be possible before long to download fully activated versions from file sharing sites.

And I expect that those pirated a.k.a. "cracked" versions will contain bonus features: e.g. keylogger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystroke_logging), zombiefier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_computer), and lots more ...

http://www.westciv.com/style_master/house/good_oil/cracked_software/index.html
Title: Re: Grrr !!...Why Do Software Updates Remove The Volume Bar From The Taskbar ?
Post by: RD on 28/11/2011 14:18:18
...  every time I get a friggin Windows update (Vista !!..yep..VISTA [xx(] [xx(])...the volume Icon gets removed from my task-bar !..not only that but when I go to the properties...it's greyed out so I can't even instruct the computer to put it back there as an option !!

I have to restart the computer AGAIN ...for it to be made available as an option !!

why's that then ? Why Do Updates Mess Up My Volume Icon Thingy ?

I've never had this problem with Vista but apparently there is an automatic fix from microsoft ...

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System icons do not appear in the notification area in Windows Vista or in Windows 7 until you restart the computer ..
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/945011

et al ...

http://www.walkernews.net/2009/04/12/how-to-fix-windows-vista-system-tray-icons-disabled-or-greyed-out-problem/
Title: Grrr !!...Why Do Software Updates Remove The Volume Bar From The Taskbar ?
Post by: syhprum on 29/11/2011 19:54:23
Reading RD's condemnation of "cracked" software I am put in mind of Robert Baden-Powells condemnation of "self abuse"
Title: Grrr !!...Why Do Software Updates Remove The Volume Bar From The Taskbar ?
Post by: RD on 30/11/2011 00:58:59
Reading RD's condemnation of "cracked" software I am put in mind of Robert Baden-Powells condemnation of "self abuse"

It wasn't moral condemnation, it was a warning that pirated / cracked software can have malware  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware)added. The cracker is willing to steal from the program’s author, so why shouldn’t they be willing to steal your computer resources by making your machine a zombie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_computer), or steal/extort money from you by keylogging / holding your computer to ransom ?. 

Oh if you believe anti-malware software will detect any bonus extra features added to a cracked operating system, think again ...

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Rootkit detection is difficult because a rootkit may be able to subvert the software that is intended to find it. Detection methods include using an alternative, trusted operating system; behavioral-based methods; signature scanning; difference scanning; and memory dump analysis. Removal can be complicated or practically impossible, especially in cases where the rootkit resides in the kernel; reinstallation of the operating system* may be the only available solution to the problem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit)
 
[* that would be a legitimate operating system ]
Title: Grrr !!...Why Do Software Updates Remove The Volume Bar From The Taskbar ?
Post by: syhprum on 30/11/2011 15:51:44
The operating system I run Is an OEM version of windows 7 64 bit that I obtained from my son two years ago that resides on a USB dongle.
It is of course rather outdated and if loaded spends about three hours loading various security updates and SP1.
The only guaranteed unadulterated operating system that I have is the new windows 8 Pre beta that can be downloaded from Microsoft for test purposes.
Is there any way I can use this to test the integrity of the windows 7 that I use with the latest msse anti virus.
I have never to the best of my knowledge been subject to any attacks and always keep a lookout for any strange internet traffic. 
There is SOPHOS free rootkit detection software on offer but I hesitate to use it as it may be a trap !!, my computer is running fine so if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Title: Grrr !!...Why Do Software Updates Remove The Volume Bar From The Taskbar ?
Post by: syhprum on 03/12/2011 11:42:01
An overnight full run of msse anti virus and exterminate revealed a Trojan in a program that I had stored but had not run for about a year (the system has been reloaded since then), I had a problem some while ago with drives not reporting their true capacity which is now cured but in future I will due full overnight msse runs with the modem switched of after loading any suspect programs.

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