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On the Lighter Side => That CAN'T be true! => Topic started by: Yahya A.Sharif on 29/03/2019 12:33:51
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Giving the idea that in my thread I was able to falsify a current physical fact with evidence and present a new view for gravity I might have become one of the greatest scientists of all time and I deserve Nobel prize.
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=76559.20
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I was able to falsify a current physical fact
That's definitely impossible.
So you are mistaken.
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I finally have came up with a new valid theory after 4 years joining this forum I made a lot of non-sense but finally managed to present a useful theory I decided to stop here and not work on new theories any more and wait for my credits.
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I decided to stop here
Good.
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I think I could get my dog "recognised" on those sites.
And I don't have a dog.
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It is impossible to falsify a fact.
Facts are true by definition.
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I meant what is widely known today as gravity is available everywhere in space.
We know that.
And we have done since Newton pointed it out 300 years ago.
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I meant what is widely known today as gravity is available everywhere in space.
And we have done since Newton pointed it out 300 years ago.
Newton didn't know about space-time curvature he knew about gravity mathematically.He didn't know about the speed of light nor relativity.
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He knew that gravity is present throughout space.
So, what you said
what is widely known today as gravity is available everywhere in space.
was known to Newton.
But I think we have answered your question
"Am I one of the greatest scientists?"
No
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I have yet to see any evidence that you are a scientist. Thus far, based on your posts, you don't even make the grade as a bad scientist. Perhaps you should start again at the beginning with some formal courses, Then, at the very least, you might be able to appreciate just what it takes to be a great scientist. I think it is worth a try.
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I have yet to see any evidence that you are a scientist. Thus far, based on your posts, you don't even make the grade as a bad scientist. Perhaps you should start again at the beginning with some formal courses, Then, at the very least, you might be able to appreciate just what it takes to be a great scientist. I think it is worth a try.
I will give you an advice:
You need to take courses to understand my great discovery as these great physicisits understood it :
http://vixra.org/abs/1904.0013
https://www.reddit.com/r/HypotheticalPhysics/comments/b6gm0o/what_if_gravity_doesnt_exist_at_infinity/
I have a great respect to this forum and it's my favourite my quotes from other sites is just to show that there are some people here who are mistaken about my discovery.
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I think I could get my dog "recognised" on those sites.
You're not even a physicist. So either you nor your dog will be recognized there.
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You need to take courses to understand my great discovery
Not really.
Basically, you are treating gravity like light being emitted from a light bulb. Since the speed of light is limited, the expanding sphere of light generated by the light bulb will have only traveled a finite distance since the light bulb is switched on. Anything outside that sphere won't see the light bulb. By analogy, an object with a gravitational field that travels outward at the speed of light should also have a limited sphere of influence if the object has existed for a limited amount of time. The last part there, "has existed for a limited amount of time" is one of the possible problems of this idea, since we don't know if the Big Bang was the beginning of time, just another bang in a series of infinite Big Bangs or whatever else.
Seems pretty straightforward to understand.
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since we don't know if the Big Bang was the beginning of time, just another bang in a series of infinite Big Bangs or whatever else.
You said we don't know.Let's not talk about things we don't know.
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Quotes from the above sites:
"However, in a very basic sense, gravity behaves as you describe, despite your dubious mathematical claims "
Swanson Phd in atomic physics.
Scienceforum
"Gravity (be it gravitons, or spacetime curvature, or something else) doesn't "try to reach" anything It just spreads out from the source at the speed of light"
Reddit
"Wow, that's very interesting. Thanks for sharing!"
Vixra
"Fascinating idea"
Reddit
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You said we don't know.Let's not talk about things we don't know.
Given that your idea hinges on something we don't know (whether time had a beginning or not) that would also mean we can't know whether your idea is right or not.
"Wow, that's very interesting. Thanks for sharing!"
Vixra
I wouldn't consider praise from Vixra to be particularly good, given that they accept joke papers and complete nonsense.
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Given that your idea hinges on something we don't know
Part of it is unknown an unimportant one.The bigning of space-time curvature, it doesn't matter when it began the important thing is what is gravity and not how it is developed into its existence.
"Wow, that's very interesting. Thanks for sharing!"
Vixra
I wouldn't consider praise from Vixra to be particularly good, given that they accept joke papers and complete nonsense.
Other serious posts didn't recieve praise.Anyway I presented three sites.
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the important thing is what is gravity
So how does your proposal differ from what is already known about gravity?
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So how does your proposal differ from what is already known about gravity?
Thanks for your question.
There is not a difference between my view of gravity and the view presented by GR , what I did is to falsify a misconcption about gravity extension and present new information about the topic.Making me one of the greatest scientists and deserve Nobel prize.
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what I did is to falsify a misconcption about gravity extension
What was it that you falsified?
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what I did is to falsify a misconcption about gravity extension
What was it that you falsified?
Gravity is everywhere.
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Gravity is everywhere.
You need to take into consideration the expanding sphere of gravitational influence of each individual particle in the Universe, not just one of them. Although it might be the case that the gravitational field of the Earth has not yet reached some location a trillion light-years away by now, there should be matter at or near that location which already has gravitational influence there.
Existing observations indicate that the visible universe is highly isotropic and homogeneous at very large scales (meaning that matter is roughly evenly distributed at those scales). By extension, we have no particular reason to believe that this "cosmological principle" suddenly stops applying outside of the visible universe. So for that reason, any random location in the Universe should have matter nearby and therefore gravity.
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what I did is to falsify a misconcption about gravity extension
What was it that you falsified?
Gravity is everywhere.
No.
You have claimed it is false.
That's not the same as proving it's false.
You can't scientifically make claims about stuff that's simply too far away for us to tell.
But you made them
So you are not acting as a scientist.
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there should be matter at or near that location which already has gravitational influence there.
Existing observations indicate that .........So for that reason, any random location in the Universe should have matter nearby and therefore gravity.
So what ?each mass has its own gravity range if their ranges intersect they will affect each other if not they wn't affect each other.
Space-time is infinite it's beyond our universe.
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You can't scientifically make claims about stuff that's simply too far away for us to tell.
But you made them
So you are not acting as a scientist.
"Far away for us to tell "? what does that even mean ?
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Science is not a religion if several scientists accepted it there is not a reason for the rest not to accept it even though I don't know after what time I would be recognized worldwide " giving the idea that I'm not native speaker to publish in physics journals to spread it worldwide.
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"Far away for us to tell "? what does that even mean ?
Why did you leave out the important bit?
"Too far away for us to tell" means "too far away for us to tell".
Did you not understand it?
Which bit don't you get?
Do you understand "too far away"
How about " for us to tell"?
Do you know about the second use given here?
https://www.google.com/search?q=define+tell&oq=define+tell&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2143j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
ell1
/tɛl/
verb
1.
communicate information to someone in spoken or written words.
"I told her you were coming"
synonyms: inform, let know, notify, apprise, make aware, mention something to, acquaint with, advise, put in the picture, brief, fill in, break the news to; More
2.
decide or determine correctly or with certainty.
"you can tell they're in love"
synonyms: ascertain, decide, determine, work out, make out, deduce, discern, perceive, see, identify, recognize, understand, comprehend; More
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I haven't seen the original article but here's the problem.
Science begins with observation. Our observation is that gravity always sucks, and the influence of gravity seems to travel at the speed of light.
Now suppose a large source X emits a single graviton Γ from position A. This is detected by a much smaller test mass Y, which begins to move towards A. Thus Γ has a vector property - a tail pointing back to A. But in the zillion years it has taken to reach Y, source X has moved to position B. Γ has no way of knowing where B is, and there is no other force acting on Y, so it doesn't actually collide with X. However if X emits another graviton, that can change the trajectory of Y which will spiral around X and may end up in orbit.
Interesting lemma: gravitons contain the history of the universe in their tails!
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My view is the only way to solve this contradiction in physics.
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My view is the only way to solve this contradiction in physics:
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=77027.new#new
There is no contradiction there.
You can not make mass appear suddenly, you can only bring it from somewhere else.
Any of the worlds more or less competent scientists would recognise that (especially after it had been explained to them)