[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

No one seems to doubt that infinite and eternal are two logical characteristics of the universe.

That might have been true a century ago.

But with Hubble's discovery of the expansion of the universe, people realized that the universe can't have been eternal in the past.

And when the lifecycle of stars and black holes was understood, people realized that the universe will look very different in the future (and very run-down). So if the universe is very different in the future, does that make it eternal in the future?

Thank you for the thoughtful response.

Are you thinking of a finite universe? Maybe a universe that had a beginning? If so, that is where we differ. In a universe that has always existed, and is infinite, filled with matter and energy as we see it in our field of view, the fact that stars and even galaxies have finite lives does not falsify the possibility of infinite and eternal. I'm suggesting that there is a natural cycle of matter and energy that continually plays out in the formation of stars and galaxies, that then merge, converge, crunch and bang into new expanding arenas.


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

It is what I call the Infinite Spongy Universe (ISU) model

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