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Life Sciences => Physiology & Medicine => Topic started by: Zer0 on 26/03/2023 21:05:54

Title: Marburg?
Post by: Zer0 on 26/03/2023 21:05:54

Simple one liners expecting short answers...

Airborne Capabilities?

Fatality Rate?

Vaccine Availability?

Title: Re: Marburg?
Post by: evan_au on 27/03/2023 08:24:02

1 line response: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marburg_virus

Highly lethal, but infection requires contact with bodily fluids through a break in the skin.
An experimental vaccine has been trialed.

Title: Re: Marburg?
Post by: Zer0 on 27/03/2023 19:56:12

lol
Great Reply!

Okay so...follow up query...

These Zoonotic Diseases are the ones transmitted from Animals to Humans, Right?

But where the Heck do the Animals get Them from?
I Don't Understand.
Where the dirty Heck place do Monkeys hangout for such Diseases?
Which damm cave do Bats hang in upside down to receive/obtain Viruses?

Where do Viruses come from?
How do they Originate?
Can't We just Nuke that forest or cave?

Title: Re: Marburg?
Post by: evan_au on 27/03/2023 20:33:01

Monkeys are closely related to humans, so whatever infects monkeys can easily infect us (especially if humans eat the monkeys!).

Among mammals, bats have a very unusual immune system - perhaps tied to their very high metabolic rate (needed for flight).
- They harbour a lot of viruses (eg coronaviruses), but they don't seem to be severely affected.
- Bats are not closely related to humans, so these viruses are less likely to infect humans (or be transmitted amongst humans)
- But humans in rural areas of Asia do go into bat caves to collect guano as fertiliser (and often don't wear masks) - antibody testing have shown that many villagers  have antibodies against coronaviruses - even before COVID!
- Humans also eat bats

Title: Re: Marburg?
Post by: Zer0 on 28/03/2023 19:30:33

Hmmn...so what's the Solution then?

BAN monkey & bat meats Completely?

Or employ A.I. to design newer Vaccines?

Is Gene Editing in a way that no AIDS or Cancers or Bacterial/Fungal/Viral Diseases ever occur a Possibility?

(dat part bout nukin stuff waz pretty stoopid, wasn't it...lol)

Title: Re: Marburg?
Post by: paul cotter on 29/03/2023 09:16:45

Viral illnesses are intrinsic to life on this planet and will never be overcome. Even if all the current billions of different types were eliminated a chance fracture of genetic material( dna or rna ) that codes for a sterically compatible protein could manifest a brand new virion( it's actually a bit more complex but that's the basics of it ). Also we most likely would not exist if it were not for the existence of viruses as there is now strong evidence of the role viruses have had in evolution, especially retroviruses.

Title: Re: Marburg?
Post by: evan_au on 29/03/2023 21:11:59

Quote from:

so what's the Solution then? BAN monkey & bat meats Completely?

It's been tried before...

Quote from: Leviticus 11

“‘These are the birds you are to regard as unclean and not eat because they are unclean: the eagle, the vulture,... the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat....
“‘Every animal that does not have a divided hoof or that does not chew the cud is unclean for you...

Modern taxonomy distinguishes bats from other warm-blooded flyers, but monkeys don't have hooves...

People living in poverty will eat whatever they can catch. But sometimes it becomes a delicacy...
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2011&version=NIV