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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: Mitko Gorgiev on 25/04/2021 19:04:16
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Time does not exist in reality at all. What really exist in Cosmos are only these things: spirit, soul, space, matter, force (material as well as immaterial), field and motion (the matter or non-matter is moving or it is transforming). Time is only an auxiliary term of the spirit (in this case, of the human being) which helps him to express the real things in numbers.
Let’s say two material bodies are moving in space parallel to each other and we see that the space between them is increasing. We say that the one body is moving faster than the other. That is real. Let’s say someone asks you how much faster the one body is moving in respect to the other? Two times, 1.5 times, 3.7 times faster? You answer: I don’t know, I have to measure. But you can’t measure the speed of any motion directly. First you have to measure the space the bodies have traveled. You have to make also a pendulum and count its oscillations while the bodies are travelling. At the end you say that the first body has traveled a given distance for 100 oscillations of the pendulum, and the second body has traveled the same distance for 150 oscillations of the pendulum. With little mathematics you say that the first body was moving 1.5 times faster than the second.
What have you actually done? You were observing two motions, a forward motion and an oscillatory motion, thereby counting the oscillations. Where is here the time? No time at all. The spirit was only observing and counting.
So, time is merely a process of counting oscillatory movements. And counting is also a deed of the spirit.
NO SPIRIT – NO COUNTING, NO TIME.
P.S. The nature doesn't count. It doesn't know of numbers. For example, the nature doesn't give a toss about the number PI (3,14....). It knows about circles, but not of numbers.
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Why didn't you post this earlier?
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Time measurement is an ancient applied science tool used for bookkeeping. What often happens is applied science tools, when useful and widely applied, can cause everyone to forget it is only a tool, and they start to assume the tool is part of natural reality.
Say we took a still photograph of nature. The still photograph will record reality and essentially stop time. All the objects of nature will still appear to exist within the still photo. These objects exist apart from time, and all time based bookkeeping. What does not change in the photo is all those tangible things, will be the same forever. Time is used to bookkeep the changes of state of the tangible objects.
Say we make a movie of the same natural scene. Our movie is broken down into many frames, each frame stopped in time, with a fixed unit of time lag between the frames, that we call one second. The bookkeeping will compare the objects within the adjacent frames and break down all the various changes of state and position, so we can mathematically simulate how all these things change with time. As this modeling got better and more complete, many could not tell the difference between the tool results and the natural propagation of events, sine the tool could make predictions. Time became assumed to be more than a tool, but a statement of fact.
One conceptual problem that lingered was to look at aging objects such as humans. Their propagation of time only moves in one direction. We are born, age and die. However, the tool used to measure the propagation of time; clock, cycle. The clock by cycling and repeating each day; noon and midnight, suggests that the time tool also cycles, and then we should get older and then younger, forever, just as the clock does. But this is not the case in reality, except in theories like Reincarnation, which describes natural time, like clock time. This shows how far back this time confusion goes.
The bottom line is we used the wrong tool; clock, to record data for the mathematical tool of time. We use a cyclic device to measure time which moves in one direction. Maybe this was done on purpose to make sure we keep in mind that a tool is not the same as reality, even as simulation gets better and better. The idea was to keep in mind the chicken or the egg paradox, with the egg of nature there first.
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Time does not exist in reality at all.
Uh, ok...
Let’s say two material bodies are moving in space parallel to each other
That's not possible if time doesn't exist.
So, time is merely a process of counting oscillatory movements.
Incorrect. You are describing a method to measure time, not time itself. That is like saying a ruler is length.
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Time measurement is an ancient applied science tool used for bookkeeping. What often happens is applied science tools, when useful and widely applied, can cause everyone to forget it is only a tool, and they start to assume the tool is part of natural reality.
When you say everone, do you mean just you?
One conceptual problem that lingered was to look at aging objects such as humans. Their propagation of time only moves in one direction. We are born, age and die. However, the tool used to measure the propagation of time; clock, cycle. The clock by cycling and repeating each day; noon and midnight, suggests that the time tool also cycles, and then we should get older and then younger, forever, just as the clock does.
Is a clock really that difficult for you to understand?The bottom line is we used the wrong tool; clock, to record data for the mathematical tool of time.
I'm sorry that clocks seem so difficult for you, the rest of us seem to understand these devices rather well.
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Why didn't you post this earlier?
What difference would have made it?
Let’s say two material bodies are moving in space parallel to each other
That's not possible if time doesn't exist.
How so???
Would you elaborate it?
So, time is merely a process of counting oscillatory movements.
Incorrect. You are describing a method to measure time, not time itself. That is like saying a ruler is length.
There is no length in the nature. It is a pure human's term.
There is space and there are three dimensional objects in it.
The meter (the ruler) is a device for measuring empty space or for measuring the space that material objects take in it.
We can sense both, the empty space as well as the material objects in it.
How can I sense the time?
Where is it?
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How so???
Would you elaborate it?
Objects can't move without time because it takes time to get from one place to another.
How can I sense the time?
Watch anything in the process of changing.
Where is it?
It isn't a material object. There is no "where".
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It isn't a material object. There is no "where".
All our experience about the world around us comes through our senses: Sight, Sound, Smell, Taste, and Touch.
For example: the magnetic field around a magnet is not material and we are not aware of it until the moment we bring another magnet (or a piece of iron, nickel or cobalt) close to it. In that moment through our sense of touch we become aware of the immaterial force. So, through our sense of touch we conclude that there is an immaterial field around the poles of the magnet.
In this example we have something immaterial and this immaterial has "where" (it is around the poles) and it can also affect our sense of touch.
What sense from our five senses does the time affect?
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What sense from our five senses does the time affect?
All of them. You can watch rain fall. You can hear an explosion. You can feel a wave of water. You can taste gum losing its flavor as you chew it. You can smell the increase in stench of a rotten egg as you walk closer to it.
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The brain contains pace keeper cells. These cells are designed by nature to constantly vibrate at a given frequency. They are used by the brain as its standard for time keeping, similar to the second hand on a clock. There will be so many cycles between various hormonal events.
We sense what we call time, unconsciously, through extrapolation of the wiring to these pace keeper cells. The clock is more than likely a projection of this natural inner clock, since the pacer keeper cells did this long before science or clocks. In other words, extrapolation of time, by the brain, from pace keeper cells would eventually include making conscious parallels. It did not stay confined to internal hormonal cycles, for example. It extrapolated to the needs of critters within the environment; day and night and seasonal activities like hibernation.
However, the observation that time does not cycle, but moves in one direction to the future, due to the 2nd law absorbing energy, tells us the clock and the concept of time were both tools that were extrapolated from the inner cycles of the brain, just as a telescope was a tool that was extrapolated from the eyes. This would make it appear unconsciously satisfying.
If time was more than an orientating and bookkeeping tool, it would be a thing or a potential. Can anyone name anything in nature that is not a thing or potential, besides time and space? If time was a thing or potential, it would exist beyond perception and it would have only one direction when observed. One direction suggests a potential and not a thing.
I call time with one direction time potential. It is a better applied science tool. This is more modern and is detached from the unconscious bias of the pacer cells. In this tool, time potential stems from the speed of light reference, where the potentials for time and space are not connected. Half life of isotopes stems from time potential apart from space.
The theory of space-time, where time and space are intimately connected, does not allow for pure time, since time in space-time does not exist by itself, apart from space. It is intertwined with space. The cyclic nature of the pacer cells is a vibration in space and time being used to express time. The brain does not use a series of radioactive atoms. The bias of thousands of years of projected traditions is hard to overcome. Pure time is not connected to distance and therefore does not work as well with the tool called space-time. That is better served with time=space-TIME. The clock in this tool that has to occupy space to express time.
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Can anyone name anything in nature that is not a thing or potential, besides time and space?
You do realise just how stupid that is, don't you?
Can you name any thing that is not a thing?
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What sense from our five senses does the time affect?
How did you come to the conclusion that we only have 5 senses?
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For example: the magnetic field around a magnet is not material and we are not aware of it until the moment we bring another magnet (or a piece of iron, nickel or cobalt) close to it. In that moment through our sense of touch we become aware of the immaterial force.
Which shows that humans aren't all that clever; other animals do better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetoreception
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The brain contains pace keeper cells.
Can you provide evidence for this?
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There is no nature in nature. Nature is a human concept, and unnatural.